Manchester United 1:0 FC Astana

ash_86 · Sep 17, 2019

limerickcitykid said:
B/R Live is English and covers the European competitions in the States.

It's the channel with Stu Holden, Steve Nash, Maurice Edu, and sometimes Tim Howard.

Alright thanks.

Leftback99 · Sep 17, 2019

With our injuries we shouldn't be starting anyone expected to start against West Ham. We've got plenty of players needing game time.

AFC NimbleThumb · Sep 17, 2019

Leftback99 said:
With our injuries we shouldn't be starting anyone expected to start against West Ham. We've got plenty of players needing game time.

Too much like common sense to expect us to rest key players.

Crashoutcassius · Sep 17, 2019

I think we will play a relatively strong 11... people haven't play many games and don't need a rest... plus momentum is important. I think we will have a bench with garner and gomes to see mins. Greenwood hopefully to start and hopefully up top

red woppit · Sep 17, 2019

Momochiru said:
Agree 100%. People who call for 4-5 academy players to start are living in a dream land. Astana are not going to be pushovers - they are probably comparable to a decent Championship team, full of tough, experienced eastern European internationals. I expect the starting lineup to include 4-5 first team players, 4-5 fringe players and 1-2 academy players like Greenwood, Tuanzebe or Chong, who already had a few sub appearances under their belt. If the game is done and dusted with 20 minutes to go, we might see couple more kids get some minutes, hopefully Gomes and Garner.

Think there be a maximum of three academy players in the team, possibly Gomes, Greenwood and Chong. Romero, Tuanzebe and Fred are certs to start, with Jones and possibly Rojo also in the line up. If Ole thinks Williams is up for a start, then Chong may well be on the bench. Garner may be on the bench, and Ramazani could feature in the future if he keeps up his good form. De Gea, Lindelof, Maguire, McTominay, James and Rashford should be rested, although several maybe on the bench. Matic may get another run, as the pace should be slower than the PL, Lingard also could get a run out if fit.

McGrathsipan · Sep 17, 2019

Sure to be a cracker this game.
Said nobody.

Tincanalley · Sep 17, 2019

@Niall hey come on, how come you cant predict more than five goals in a tie?

JustABall · Sep 17, 2019

JustABall said:
People who don't want to see 3-4 youngsters involved should have a look back at what Arsenal and Chelsea did with their own youngsters in last season's EL group stage.

Arsenal beat Qarabag 3-0 away with Guendouzi and Smith-Rowe scoring.

Nketiah, Smith-Rowe and Willock all started in the 3-0 away win against Vorskla. Two of them scored. Saka came on in the 68th minute.

Hudson-Odoi started and scored in the 4-0 home win against PAOK. Ampadu came on after 63 mins.

They both started in the 2-2 draw away to Fehervar. McEachran made the bench.

No reason why we can't do something similar against a poor side at home.

Greenwood, Gomes, Chong, Garner and Williams all need to be involved. Even if only 2-3 of them start. Tuanzebe should definitely start.

I posted this in the newbie thread earlier.

If our young lads can’t perform against this level of player at home, it says a lot about their quality or ability to transfer their skill set to senior football.

haram · Sep 18, 2019

Their away form does not look great.

UNITED ACADEMY · Sep 18, 2019

This is the game that I have no issue to see Lingard, Mata & Matic on the pitch & combined with youth players like Chong, Gomes & Greenwood.

Romero
Bissaka Axel Maguire Rojo
Matic Fred
Chong Mata Gomes
Greenwood

If Dalot is fit then i’ll Play him over Bissaka.
I’ll keep Maguire in there as a leader & playing from the back.
Fred needs more minutes for match fitness so he can start in the weekend.
Don’t mind to see Martial for match fitness so he can be ready in the weekend.

haram · Sep 18, 2019

UNITED ACADEMY said:
This is the game that I have no issue to see Lingard, Mata & Matic on the pitch & combined with youth players like Chong, Gomes & Greenwood.

Romero
Bissaka Axel Maguire Rojo
Matic Fred
Chong Mata Gomes
Greenwood

If Dalot is fit then i’ll Play him over Bissaka.

I’ll keep Maguire in there as a leader & playing from the back.

Fred needs more minutes for match fitness so he can start in the weekend.

Don’t mind to see Martial for match fitness so he can be ready in the weekend.

Makes more sense to go Mata Gomes Chong.

UNITED ACADEMY · Sep 18, 2019

haram said:
Makes more sense to go Mata Gomes Chong.

I thought the same thing but ole probably won’t play like that if it’s based on pre season.

Andersons Dietician · Sep 18, 2019

When did he say Martial would be ready? Wonder if he might start him to get some minutes under his belt.

Can’t decide on what line up.

Romero
Bissaka Tuanzebe Jones Young
Matic Fred
Greenwood Lingard Gomes
Martial

Although I feel like he might start James so he gets European football under his belt early doors.

Mark Pawelek · Sep 18, 2019

Andersons Dietician said:
When did he say Martial would be ready? Wonder if he might start him to get some minutes under his belt.

Can’t decide on what line up.

Romero
Bissaka Tuanzebe Jones Young
Matic Fred
Greenwood Lingard Gomes
Martial

Although I feel like he might start James so he gets European football under his belt early doors.

All these people playing Matic on Thursday in CDM have got totally the wrong idea. Astana will come to OT to park the bus and, maybe, steal an away goal. We don't need to play a safe CDM who'll pass it back to our CBs. This would, in fact, be a really bad idea. We want CDMs feeding the ball forward, not back. When they're packing 11 on their side of the pitch, we can't score a goal when the ball's in our half.

Havak · Sep 18, 2019

I'd like to see:

Romero
Young Tuanzebe Jones Rojo
Fred Matic
Lingard Gomes Chong
Greenwood
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Grant; Dalot, Lindelof; Andreas, Garner; Mata, Rashford

However, I think it might be a little bit stronger than this, or at least maybe see Wan-Bissaka and James in the 18. They don't have much (if any) European experience and while this isn't exactly the biggest European night to throw them into, it could be a starting point. With the injuries we have though, we should be trying to rest the majority of the starting XI that will face West Ham. Eg. de Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, McTominay, James, Rashford. Hopefully, Pogba & Martial can come straight back in for the West Ham game. If they are ahead of schedule though, it wouldn't surprise me to see them benched here as well.

We should be comfortably winning this game regardless of the starting XI we field.

Leftback99 · Sep 18, 2019

No Martial, Pogba, Shaw, James at open training.

red4ever 79 · Sep 18, 2019

any presser for this?

ArjenIsM3 · Sep 18, 2019

red4ever 79 said:
any presser for this?

Yeap it's after open training (which is now), 13:30 BST.

red4ever 79 · Sep 18, 2019

ArjenIsM3 said:
Yeap it's after open training (which is now), 13:30 BST.

cool I always wait for that before submitting my line up

Think it will be
Romero
Dalot Jones Tuanzebe Young
Fred Matic Gomes
Lingard Greenwood Chong

ArjenIsM3 · Sep 18, 2019

red4ever 79 said:
cool I always wait for that before submitting my line up

Think it will be
Romero
Dalot Jones Tuanzebe Young
Fred Matic Gomes
Lingard Greenwood Chong

Almost the same as mine, except I've got Mata in for Gomes with Gomes coming on as a sub.

red4ever 79 · Sep 18, 2019

ArjenIsM3 said:
Almost the same as mine, except I've got Mata in for Gomes with Gomes coming on as a sub.

Hope Gomes plays. Contract is up soon and unless he plays games he will be off which will be tragic as he has some talent

Utdstar01 · Sep 18, 2019

I'm going to this tomorrow. Hopefully put in a decent performance and looking forward to seeing some of the kids.

ArjenIsM3 · Sep 18, 2019

red4ever 79 said:
Hope Gomes plays. Contract is up soon and unless he plays games he will be off which will be tragic as he has some talent

Yeah agreed. I hope we manage to get him to sign a new contract before January. Same goes for some of our other youngsters.

Devil may care · Sep 18, 2019

Don't think we'll see this but this is the team I'd go for, there's enough experience in there as Rashford can't be counted as a kid anymore given the amount of top level football he's played, and Romero, Jones, Rojo, Matic and Fred are all seasoned pros.

charlenefan · Sep 18, 2019

Full Manchester United training squad:

Goalkeepers: De Gea, Romero, Grant

Defenders: Lindelof, Jones, Maguire, Rojo, Young, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Tuanzebe

Midfielders: Mata, Pereira, Fred, Gomes, Matic, McTominay, Garner, Wellens

Forwards: Lingard, Rashford, Greenwood, Chong

From today's open training

red4ever 79 · Sep 18, 2019

charlenefan said:
Full Manchester United training squad:

Goalkeepers: De Gea, Romero, Grant

Defenders: Lindelof, Jones, Maguire, Rojo, Young, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Tuanzebe

Midfielders: Mata, Pereira, Fred, Gomes, Matic, McTominay, Garner, Wellens

Forwards: Lingard, Rashford, Greenwood, Chong

From today's open training

Who is Wellens? What type of midfielder is he?

JustABall · Sep 18, 2019

Rashford

Chong—————Gomes——Greenwood

Fred McTominay

Williams Jones Tuanzebe Young

Romero

RedRonaldo · Sep 18, 2019

If Ole doesn’t play Gomes in this game, he never will play Gomes.

lysglimt · Sep 18, 2019

red4ever 79 said:
Who is Wellens? What type of midfielder is he?

Charlie Wellens - son of Richie Wellens. 16 year old midfielder. Fairly dominant on the U18-side - only 16 years old.

lysglimt · Sep 18, 2019

charlenefan said:
Full Manchester United training squad:

Goalkeepers: De Gea, Romero, Grant

Defenders: Lindelof, Jones, Maguire, Rojo, Young, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Tuanzebe

Midfielders: Mata, Pereira, Fred, Gomes, Matic, McTominay, Garner, Wellens

Forwards: Lingard, Rashford, Greenwood, Chong

From today's open training

James missing - but Dalot back in training.

Raw · Sep 18, 2019

So basically no Pogba, Martial, Shaw and James?

Based on that training squad I'm going with: Romero; Dalot, Tuanzebe, Jones, Young; McTominay, Fred, Lingard; Rashford, Greenwood, Chong. With Gomes, Garner to come on (no idea about the 3rd sub).

JustABall · Sep 18, 2019

Annoyingly, looks like Williams will miss out because of Rojo.

Raw · Sep 18, 2019

According to Ole Greenwood, Romero and Axel will definitely play.

Chaky_Best · Sep 18, 2019

Romero

Dalot
Jones
Tuanzebe
Rojo

Matic
Fred

Lingard
Mata
Pereira

Greenwood

bosnian_red · Sep 18, 2019

Assuming that only one of Gomes or Chong will start, both could be on the bench though. With Greenwood starting, Ole might not just put them all in together though I hope we do at least 2 of the 3, if not all 3. Only Greenwood would be a bit disappointing tbh.

jderbyshire · Sep 18, 2019

Who's this Fred Garner fella?

red4ever 79 · Sep 18, 2019

lysglimt said:
Charlie Wellens - son of Richie Wellens. 16 year old midfielder. Fairly dominant on the U18-side - only 16 years old.

Thanks a lot

jderbyshire · Sep 18, 2019

Mark Pawelek said:
All these people playing Matic on Thursday in CDM have got totally the wrong idea. Astana will come to OT to park the bus and, maybe, steal an away goal. We don't need to play a safe CDM who'll pass it back to our CBs. This would, in fact, be a really bad idea. We want CDMs feeding the ball forward, not back. When they're packing 11 on their side of the pitch, we can't score a goal when the ball's in our half.

I don't think they're thinking about it tactically - just wanting Matic to play against the shit teams rather than the PL games.

Andersons Dietician · Sep 18, 2019

Mark Pawelek said:
All these people playing Matic on Thursday in CDM have got totally the wrong idea. Astana will come to OT to park the bus and, maybe, steal an away goal. We don't need to play a safe CDM who'll pass it back to our CBs. This would, in fact, be a really bad idea. We want CDMs feeding the ball forward, not back. When they're packing 11 on their side of the pitch, we can't score a goal when the ball's in our half.

Well he can sit there and cover and make it a back 3 with Tuanzebe and Jones pushed up to the halfway line and Young and Bissaka can go forward.
@jderbyshire many probably realise if that is their tactic to counter having a lump that will sit back protect and win most things in the air is probably a good idea allowing the others to be more progressive.

Alemar · Sep 18, 2019

Any chances of Charlie Wellens being on the bench for Astana?

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