Massive game. Not for the season in terms of points but as a metric of where we are and how we have progressed. Found Guardiola's comments disrespectful too - crazy tactics? Hopefully whatever he has planned backfires spectacularly and we beat them on Saturday. Whatever we do we need to have a plan for Haaland. Still have PTSD from his hattrick in the last game. I think it will be close but fancy us to get a 2-1 win.
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Manchester United 2:1 Manchester City
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It's win-win for us imo. If we fail, there's more motivation to improve and go on a good run.
Not sure how it's funny.
It's win-win for us imo. If we fail, there's more motivation to improve and go on a good run.
MASSIVE!!
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That’s why he said it though. He wouldn’t have said that if we’d of beat them because he’d of got torn to shreds.
OK. But he didn't get torn to shreds so what's your point.
Sancho won't be anywhere near a starting 11 for a good bit yet, whatever is other problems he's nowhere near match fitnessReckon an upset is on the cards and City will win.
Yeah, ironic isn't it that pep's a master tactician and all, and ole obviously isn't, yet pep's biggest success against ole was when he didn't make any particular preparations. Whereas when he did prepare against ole he lost more often than he won.
Your original post said that Pep didn't bother prepping against Ole. Based on the evidence, seems more like he found that prepping against Ole was a losing strategy. Which incidentally correlates with his regular losses in the later stages of the cl where he screwed around with his team.
All of which leads me, weirdly, to feel more confident about this game now he has talked openly about considering changing his team around.
Point might be that it's not necessarily true. You beat your hated rivals then say 'and we didn't even try hard'. The obvious read into that is they're trying to humiliate us, not that the words are gospel. And you seem to have bought the bait.
Don’t need to prove a point to someone who as the label ‘pogbas biggest fan’
fecking hell talk abut micro analysing a post.
It's a poor manager that doesn't consider changing his team to play against a specific opponent
United are one of the best counter-attacking teams out there and he knows it, Walker aside, his defence isn't the quickest, he also knows that
He's also likely to be thing about a scenario where United's front 3 might be Garnacho, Rashford and Martial, the latter is no slouch in a foot race
Lastly he will also realize that United have improved dramatically defensively and that they won't find scoring against us as easy as it has been, so a different approach maybe needed
It was a bit of a shit post though
and you did keep on doubling down.
You don't need to keep on trashing solskjaer on one of the things he did pretty well. He's gone now. And it just seems like a weird like of attack, even for when he was still manager - he's got a good record against Pep.
All of that is true. But Pep has pretty often done the wrong thing when preparing specifically for an opponent.
Him recognising that it would be sensible to change city's defensive shape isn't necessarily the same as him changing it in an effective way.
I'm obviously mainly just being optimistic based off very little, but why the feck not?
Its not a shit post. Don't mistake my lack of words prior as anything outside of me not wanting to waste characters on your mental gymnastics.It was a bit of a shit post though and you did keep on doubling down.
You don't need to keep on trashing solskjaer on one of the things he did pretty well. He's gone now. And it just seems like a weird like of attack, even for when he was still manager - he's got a good record against Pep.
Pep didn't bother prepping for Ole because it was evident that there was no established sustainable system. His wins were broadly smash and grab for the most part and he didn't actually have Peps number on balance going into the game.
This idea that Pep is arrogant to do that is utter nonsense, especially considering that "risk" not to prep his side yielded a strong result.
Clearly it's a shit post - city didn't just sweep us aside whenever they played us in the solskjaer years. Pep's teams, player for player, were definitely superior to ours during that time. Yet we got as many wins as they did during that time. So Pep's teams underperformed against us. If he genuinely didn't bother preparing against us that was clearly arrogance that city paid for.
Does anyone seriously think that any manager doesn't prep his team in top flight football these daysIf we can score as many goals against them as we did last time, I think we'll win this.
I'm going for 3-2 to United, Haaland to score both City goals. Our goals split amongst the team.
Well @VP89 does
Still a lot better than most, no?
I never said they swept us aside. Read my posts better or don't bother replying.
Ole's gameplans (of lack of) were not sustainable. Going into the 9th game Ole's record was 50% which was matched by Conte / Enrique and I think one other. He then got his arse handed to him and all of sudden the win % didn't look so good.
KDB said Pep didn't prep the side at all in the 2-0 victory over united. So they obviously didn't pay for any arrogance there, did they.
KDB has said that was the prep. If you don't want to believe him then go ahead. It would be consistent with the backward logic you've used thus far.This going behind 2 nil in half an hour lark isn’t what I thought Pep meant by ridiculous ideasI wonder will we set up similar to Southampton’s 5-3-2 this weekend? It’s certainly food for thought. City have been completely neutralised tonight.Cancelo and Foden look woeful. Good news for AWB.It’s shocking how one dimensional they’ve become. Even the inverted fullbacks become worthless when it ends up being constantly recycled out wide to KDB to spam crosses into the box
Maybe City need to line up like that to contend with us
Game raising cnuts on Saturday
And now we can add loss against Southampton to the list. I'm not saying it'll be anywhere near comfortable, but they can be beaten and we've got the players and the manager to do it. I can't wait for Saturday.They looked like absolute shite tonight. Suddenly feeling more confident for the weekend.We won't have Weghorst in time, but it would be fun, especially if Pep goes with Akanji and Ake for their pace.
How do people think they'll line up?
-----------------------Ederson
Walker----Akanji---Ake---Cancelo
--------------------Rodri
--------De Bruyne---Silva
Mahrez------Haaland------Foden
And we'll presumably play two centre midfielders in midfield this time around
------------------de Gea
Dalot----Varane---Martinez---Shaw
---------Casemiro-------Fred
Antony--------Bruno------Rashford
------------------Martial
I don't think ETH will change so I expect our usual midfield. As for City Cancelo, Walker and Foden and been on the side lines since the WC (and tonight won't of helped). I hope they don't play Grealish, his best performances for City have come against us
She won’t go alone! I do offer to split the games only one of us can go.Fecks sake, give her your ticket. Sacrifice for the greater good. If united lose, it's your fault.
I'd be worried if he starts Eriksen next to Casemiro against them. Think we need a lot more mobility. Not sure if I'm more worried about Foden or Grealish, they both worry me.
I am kidding man. Hope it works out!Hope he starts Fredemiro in midfield on the weekend.
Don't think Eriksen is a great choice to handle a side like Citeh as we saw in the first match. You've got to cover a lot of ground quickly against that lot and thats not really where his strength is at anymore currently.
Need an all-action/energy midfield capable of breaking up their play and facilitating counter pressingThey couldn’t score past bottom of the league. We have a chance.Over last decade or so we only beat City at Old Trafford twice (in Premier League) and lost most of the times, it's surely vs City where are home record is the worst and much better against other rivals. Pep will want immediate reaction from his players after this loss and not often do City lose 2 games in a row.
I'd love a result but it'll be as difficult as it gets. This game and game against Chelsea are only 2 left that we play at Old Trafford against rivals.- Status
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Score Predictions
117,64,60
- Man Utd win
- Man City win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 29% Man Utd 2:1 Man City
- 14% Man Utd 2:2 Man City
- 9% Man Utd 1:1 Man City
- 8% Man Utd 1:2 Man City
- 7% Man Utd 1:3 Man City
- 5% Man Utd 3:2 Man City
- 5% Man Utd 1:0 Man City
- 5% Man Utd 3:1 Man City
- 4% Man Utd 0:2 Man City
- 3% Man Utd 2:0 Man City
- 2% Man Utd 0:0 Man City
- 2% Man Utd 0:3 Man City
- 2% Man Utd 1:4 Man City
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 Man City
- 1% Man Utd 2:4 Man City
- 1% Man Utd 3:0 Man City
- 0% Man Utd 4:2 Man City
- 0% Man Utd 5:0 Man City
- 0% Man Utd 0:1 Man City
- 0% Man Utd 2:3 Man City
- 0% Man Utd 0:4 Man City
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Man City
- Possession
- 30% 70%
- Shots
- 8 5
- Shots on Target
- 4 1
- Corners
- 1 2
- Fouls
- 15 5
Referee
Stuart Attwell
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Alejandro Garnacho
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replaced by Scott McTominay
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replaced by Antony
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replaced by Harry Maguire
