Manchester United 4:0 Queens Park Rangers

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

If Mata and RvP are out:

-------------De Gea------------
Rafael---Jones----Smalling--Rojo
-------------Blind----------------
---Herrera-----------Di Maria----
-------------Rooney------------
---Wilson/Januzaj-------Falcao

a 3-5-2 is also possible:

--------------De Gea-------------
----Jones----Smalling---Rojo----
Rafael----------Blind-------------Young
---------Herrera-----Di Maria---------
----------------Rooney------------
-----------------Falcao-----

Ramshock · Sep 2, 2014

santeria13 said:
If Mata and RvP are out:

-------------De Gea------------
Rafael---Jones----Smalling--Rojo
-------------Blind----------------
---Herrera-----------Di Maria----
-------------Rooney------------
---Wilson/Januzaj-------Falcao

Is Mata injured? Herrera is supposed to be out longer than Shaw isnt he?

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

Ramshock said:
Is Mata injured? Herrera is supposed to be out longer than Shaw isnt he?

I heard somewhere that Mata would be out for 3-4 weeks. I may be wrong though. Also, I thought Herrera had resumed training last week, it's just he wasn't yet in condition to play in the Burnley match.

Kayo · Sep 2, 2014

Offside said:
This. All day.

And drop our best player this season?

But other than that yeah seems spot on and what most want.

bosnian_red · Sep 2, 2014

santeria13 said:
Isn't Mata out with a Hamstring injury for a few weeks? Also what about the supposed knee surgery RvP needed?

Mata said that he only had a cramp in his leg, no serious injury. And who knows what is actually up with van Persie, he might need surgery, he might not, he might just not be back to full fitness yet. We'll see.

Wednesday at Stoke · Sep 2, 2014

Can't wait.

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

bosnian_red said:
Mata said that he only had a cramp in his leg, no serious injury. And who knows what is actually up with van Persie, he might need surgery, he might not, he might just not be back to full fitness yet. We'll see.

Fair enough. Who do you think will be dropped if all are fit then?

KiD MoYeS · Sep 2, 2014

Hopefully we can start with Rojo and have Blind in the midfield to protect the defence. Any three out of Rooney, Mata, di Maria, Falcao, van Persie and Januzaj should, in theory, be enough to beat QPR.

Rudi j · Sep 2, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Hopefully we can start with Rojo and have Blind in the midfield to protect the defence. Any three out of Rooney, Mata, di Maria, Falcao, van Persie and Januzaj should, in theory, be enough to beat QPR.

Yeh your right but in theory we should have 9 points and still be in the mickey mouse cup so there is that.

Offside · Sep 2, 2014

Kayo said:
And drop our best player this season?

But other than that yeah seems spot on and what most want.

Do you mean Phil Jones? Yeah him for Evans may be better.

Annihilate Now! · Sep 2, 2014

No excuses now, this is a must win game... Fecking annoying we have to wait 2 weeks for it though.

Marcelinho87 · Sep 2, 2014

I would really like to see us without Rooney in the lineup. I really feel he is the one who slows us down with his poor touch and him wanting to just switch it to the right all the time. I also feel him dropping back all the time gets in the way of Mata.

I reckon it could also give him a reason to kick on.

Smithy89 · Sep 2, 2014

DDG, Jones, Evans, Rojo?
Valencia, Blind, Di Maria, Shaw
Rooney
RVP Falcao

Smash the pricks.

HabeasC · Sep 2, 2014

Is Shaw back? I am fed up of seeing Ashely young on the left.

If he is, we could definitely go back to a back four.

paulscholes18 · Sep 2, 2014

Ddg
Rafa smalling jones rojo
Blind
Herrera di maria
Mata
Rooney falcao

Reddevilboy · Sep 2, 2014

Okay this whole prediction opponent 5 us 0 need to stop. It's funny in the beginning but it's getting sickening now.

Offside · Sep 2, 2014

I feel then:

--------De Gea--------
Rafael Jones Evans Rojo
---------Blind----------
---Herrera---Di Maria---
---------Mata----------
----Rooney---Falcao----

3-0.

Ferguson · Sep 2, 2014

Why do people keep picking Rafael for their teams? He's been missing in action, and we have no idea what his form is like right now.

I think it'll be Valencia or Young at right wing back.

International duties must always be taken into account for team selection. If Falcao is traveling to Columbia, then there is no way he starts this match.

Rukawa · Sep 2, 2014

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Robin van Persie has told Fox Sports that news that he requires knee surgery is "Nonsense" #MUFC #Oranje

SirAF · Sep 2, 2014

Ferguson said:
Why do people keep picking Rafael for their teams? He's been missing in action, and we have no idea what his form is like right now.

I think it'll be Valencia or Young at right wing back.

International duties must always be taken into account for team selection. If Falcao is traveling to Columbia, then there is no way he starts this match.

I think Falcao will have almost a whole week of traning when he returns (They play in Miami I believe), so he could start.

Walters_19_MuFc · Sep 2, 2014

Too early yet because the players I'm looking to choose could still be injured, but I'd like to see:

De Gea
Jones - Evans -Rojo
Blind
Rafael - Herrera - Di Maria - Shaw
Falcao - Rooney

revel911 · Sep 2, 2014

Mesutargie said:
Is Shaw really able to make a big difference as LWB from Young? Rating him reminds me of you rating the players like Mata.

I would say offensively not much different, but FAR better defensively. That to me helps a lot especially when you can see that teams are focusing all of their attack on what they considered a vastly weak left side.

Mesutargie said:
I get your point. Then how do you think of Rojo as LWB? I believe Rojo can definitely do the better job in defending, not to mention Rojo's capability of offense. So let's take Blackett as one of three backs and drop Shaw. Doesn't it sound a bit more rational?

Could be, but since Rojo has spent time playing as a LCB in a back 3, why not use him in that position, let's be honest as good as Blackett has been, he is still young and needs to be eased in.

Why would we drop our expensive new signing that has shown great potential and PL success over a youth that is just starting?

.Rossi · Sep 2, 2014

Absolutely ridiculous that Falcao is playing for us :lol:

revel911 · Sep 2, 2014

santeria13 said:
I heard somewhere that Mata would be out for 3-4 weeks. I may be wrong though. Also, I thought Herrera had resumed training last week, it's just he wasn't yet in condition to play in the Burnley match.

Mata did go out against Burnley holding his hamstring, but I haven't seen any official news of it.

santeria13 said:
If Mata and RvP are out:

-------------De Gea------------
Rafael---Jones----Smalling--Rojo
-------------Blind----------------
---Herrera-----------Di Maria----
-------------Rooney------------
---Wilson/Januzaj-------Falcao

a 3-5-2 is also possible:

--------------De Gea-------------
----Jones----Smalling---Rojo----
Rafael----------Blind-------------Young
---------Herrera-----Di Maria---------
----------------Rooney------------
-----------------Falcao-----

I am hoping for more 4-3-3:

-------------De Gea------------
Rafael---Jones----Smalling--Rojo
-------------Blind----------------
------Herrera-----------Di Maria
Januzaj-----Falcao--Rooney

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

revel911 said:
Mata did go out against Burnley holding his hamstring, but I haven't seen any official news of it.

Yeah, what I read was probably false then. If RVP is also fit for the game, and the knee surgery news is also false, which seems to be the case, then it will be very interesting to see who doesn't make it into the starting line up. My guess is Mata will be dropped and Rooney will play in the hole

revel911 · Sep 2, 2014

santeria13 said:
Yeah, what I read was probably false then. If RVP is also fit for the game, and the knee surgery news is also false, which seems to be the case, then it will be very interesting to see who doesn't make it into the starting line up. My guess is Mata will be dropped and Rooney will play in the hole

The Falcao buy makes me wonder if the RvP news is real, for me it is one of the only thing that makes sense.

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

revel911 said:
Mata did go out against Burnley holding his hamstring, but I haven't seen any official news of it.

I am hoping for more 4-3-3:

-------------De Gea------------
Rafael---Jones----Smalling--Rojo
-------------Blind----------------
------Herrera-----------Di Maria
Januzaj-----Falcao--Rooney

I like the look of that formation. A lot of people saying Rooney won't be able to play there but it would be interesting to see how he does. If it doesn't work, another option is to switch Rooney and Di Maria, with Rooney basically acting as the advanced midfielder but Di Maria is much more effective in that position in which you have him than on the wing.

santeria13 · Sep 2, 2014

revel911 said:
The Falcao buy makes me wonder if the RvP news is real, for me it is one of the only thing that makes sense.

Indeed. However, if it isn't true, it could also be a case of LVG seeing that the Rooney/RVP/Mata trio just isn't working and may be bringing in Falcao to solve that problem at the expense of dropping one of the three. It might make for some interesting competition between Rooney/Mata for the no10 spot and Rooney/Falcao/RVP for the striker spots and allow them all to play to their best, rather than knowing their position is fixed in the team.

Devil may care · Sep 2, 2014

Will Rojo be able to play? Are Shaw, Rafael and Ander fit? will we go 4-3-3? I can't do the line ups with all these options unknown! :lol:

WallBall_JF · Sep 2, 2014

International break has come at a good time in one respect. Allows the players to get away and also the injured players to get back to fitness. Hopefully some of them will be back such as Shaw, Herrera, Di Maria and Rafael. Rojo will hopefully have his work permit by then. Maybe things are starting to look up. Not sure when Carrick is back but with midfield options we can ease him back in slowly if fit. My team for the day would be a 41212 consisting of:

De Gea

Rafael---Jones---Rojo---Shaw

Blind
Herrera---Di Maria
Rooney

Falcao---RvP

Substitues:
Amos
Smalling
Evans
Carrick (If fit)/Fletcher
Mata
Januzaj
Wilson

Tincanalley · Sep 2, 2014

One of the most interesting twelve-days-away match threads in a long time

the hea · Sep 2, 2014

If we continue with 3 at the back I would love to see this.

DDG
Jones Smalling Rojo
Rafael Blind Young
Herrera Di Maria
Rooney Falcao

Ferguson · Sep 2, 2014

---------------De Gea-------------
------Evans---Jones---Rojo------
Young---------Blind---------Shaw
---------Mata--------Di Maria-----
------Rooney--------Falcao-------

I guess I'm going to have faith that Falcao can be ready after his international commitments. Van Persie has simply looked injured in every match this season. Against QPR the more attacking Mata is preferable to Herrera's defensive solidity. Shaw's pace would make a difference at wing back, and he won't be cutting back every time on his right foot in order to get the crosses in. Young is just more natural on the right side and offers a little more with his crossing than Valencia. Ultimately I see Evans as playing in the centre of defence where his ball-playing abilities will make it like having an extra midfielder who can interchange with Blind. But for now he looks a bit shaky, so Jones can marshal the defence again. Rojo will be an improvement on the inexperienced Blackett though the latter has been a revelation so far this year.

Lynk · Sep 2, 2014

feck international football.

MoBeats · Sep 2, 2014

fecks sake, we really have to wait 2 weeks for this?
Bastard.

MoBeats · Sep 2, 2014

Ferguson said:
---------------De Gea-------------
------Evans---Jones---Rojo------
Young---------Blind---------Shaw
---------Mata--------Di Maria-----
------Rooney--------Falcao-------

I guess I'm going to have faith that Falcao can be ready after his international commitments. Van Persie has simply looked injured in every match this season. Against QPR the more attacking Mata is preferable to Herrera's defensive solidity. Shaw's pace would make a difference at wing back, and he won't be cutting back every time on his right foot in order to get the crosses in. Young is just more natural on the right side and offers a little more with his crossing than Valencia. Ultimately I see Evans as playing in the centre of defence where his ball-playing abilities will make it like having an extra midfielder who can interchange with Blind. But for now he looks a bit shaky, so Jones can marshal the defence again. Rojo will be an improvement on the inexperienced Blackett though the latter has been a revelation so far this year.

What's that? 3322?

Offside · Sep 2, 2014

MoBeats said:
What's that? 3322?

More of a 3-5-2 that.

RonaldoVII · Sep 2, 2014

Why can't this game be here already?!

I have a family wedding the day before so eternally grateful that the game got moved to the Sunday. Would've likely missed it had it been on the Saturday. Although after signing Di Maria and Falcao I'd have had to reconsider!

Honestly can't wait...

nicholas_MU · Sep 3, 2014

Very sure LVG will be playing 3-5-2, no way he wil start with anything else unless we need a change on the field

DDG
Jones Rojo Blind
Valencia Rooney Herrera ADM Shaw
RVP Falcao

The reason to start Blind in LCB is because I dont think LVG has much faith in Smalling or Evans..I think he will prefer Blind in that position...And Valencia will stick to RWB cause LVG seems to like him in that position.He didnt play that bad despite all the criticism..He just need to cross a ball properly.Others position choose themselves basically.

RVP is LVG favourite and he already mention that he needs RVP to start to get fit, so he definitely start..Falcao will start too, he is the best #9 in the world, no way he will sit on the bench.

This leaves Rooney out of the strikers but he is our captain..I think he will be drop to Mata position in the midfield and Mata will have to sit on the bench for now..Herrera will be our deepest midfield while ADM and Rooney will be playing in front of herrera.

The prospect of both strikers are capable of scoring and even Both CM playing up front can score are just so exciting...Cant wait for the game now!

vibe · Sep 3, 2014

nicholas_MU said:
Very sure LVG will be playing 3-5-2, no way he wil start with anything else unless we need a change on the field

Is failing to beat Swansea, Sunderland and Burnley not a big enough indicator that a change on the field is needed?

He has players more suited for a 4-2-3-1/4-2-1-2-1/4-3-3 than he does for a 3-5-2. The only reason to stick with a 3-5-2 is because he's stubborn. There's no actual objective reason to use 3-5-2 anymore, especially with Shaw and Rafa back.

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