Milton Keynes Dons 4:0 Manchester United

thelemon · Aug 25, 2014

Loublaze said:
Oh snap he's injured too? I rate Johnstone much higher than Amos

He deserves first team football, somewhere in some lower league probably. Nice guy.

He's actually a pretty good goalie as well.

Loublaze · Aug 25, 2014

thelemon said:
He's actually a pretty good goalie as well.

He is. Just not first choice at Man utd good.

Aussie_Red_Devil · Aug 25, 2014

Are the people tipping MK Don serious? Lol I know we haven't started well but that's just over the top

foolsgold · Aug 25, 2014

The league cup probably represents our best chance of some silverware this season. With no european football, I think we should make a statement of intent and stop treating it as a venue to blood youngsters.

We should start our strongest team on tuesday and try and rack up some goals. RvP or Rooney scoring a hat trick would do their confidence no harm at all.

Offside · Aug 25, 2014

foolsgold said:
The league cup probably represents our best chance of some silverware this season. With no european football, I think we should make a statement of intent and stop treating it as a venue to blood youngsters.

We should start our strongest team on tuesday and try and rack up some goals. RvP or Rooney scoring a hat trick would do their confidence no harm at all.

I think we should take it seriously but Wilson and other players like that deserve a chance.

Jim Reaper · Aug 25, 2014

Let the youngsters have a chance to shine. Maybe we can find someone for a first team run out. This is what id go for if everyone is fit and available.

Subs:

Thorpe/Janko
Varela
Rojo
Lingard
Lawrence
Welbeck/Hernandez
Johnstone

Silva · Aug 25, 2014

Will Rojo have his work permit in time for this game?

khoazany · Aug 25, 2014

Jim Reaper said:
Let the youngsters have a chance to shine. Maybe we can find someone for a first team run out. This is what id go for if everyone is fit and available.

Subs:

Thorpe/Janko
Varela
Rojo
Lingard
Lawrence
Welbeck/Hernandez
Johnstone

Lingard and Johnstone are injured.Just saying.

bosnian_red · Aug 25, 2014

Jayvin said:
No thanks. Play the youngsters or ANYONE else, Fletcher is awful, absolute garbage and he shouldn't play for United again. That performance against Sunderland was horrific.

EDIT: Just noticed you said 'no cleverley please', yet want Fletcher to start? Did you watch the Sunderland game? Cleverley was miles better than Fletcher, who put in one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a midfielder in the PL.

They were both awful. Fletcher has turned shit for a different reason to Cleverley who just lacks a set of balls. Fletcher can still be good in games like this one though, sure he's not cut out for the premier league but it's more of a sympathy thing then anything.

Who else would we play though, other then Cleverley or Fletcher? Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick are all injured, Powell is a striker, not a midfielder, I already have Ando in there. We just don't have anyone else to put in there.

Jim Reaper · Aug 25, 2014

khoazany said:
Lingard and Johnstone are injured.Just saying.

thats fine. i did say IF everyone was fit and available. Stick Amos in goal and take henderson/milinkovic on the bench. Remove Lingard and replace him with powell. Infact, if there is any truth to welbeck or hernandez leaving then id leave them out (no use playing someone who wont be here much longer) and include zaha (who can be loaned out rather than sold, if anything) instead. Harrop or Pereira are other options.

Jim Reaper · Aug 25, 2014

bosnian_red said:
They were both awful. Fletcher has turned shit for a different reason to Cleverley who just lacks a set of balls. Fletcher can still be good in games like this one though, sure he's not cut out for the premier league but it's more of a sympathy thing then anything.

Who else would we play though, other then Cleverley or Fletcher? Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick are all injured, Powell is a striker, not a midfielder, I already have Ando in there. We just don't have anyone else to put in there.

Powell is more of an attacking midfielder/number 10 than a striker. imo

Jayvin · Aug 25, 2014

bosnian_red said:
Who else would we play though, other then Cleverley or Fletcher? Herrera, Fellaini, Carrick are all injured, Powell is a striker, not a midfielder, I already have Ando in there. We just don't have anyone else to put in there.

Good point. Depressing isn't it?

Sean_RedDevil · Aug 25, 2014

It will be very interesting which players will play in CM

Carrick: Injured
Herrera: Injured
Fellaini: Injured
Anderson: Injured
Cleverley/Fletcher: I don't think both will ever play together in CM for us. Van Gaal has also said he'll play a different team against Sunderland and then against Milton Keynes.

So another chance for Kagawa there??
Maybe Powell (also i believe only Fergie thinks he's a CM)??
Maybe one of Pearson or Rothwell??

bosnian_red · Aug 25, 2014

Sean_RedDevil said:
It will be very interesting which players will play in CM

Carrick: Injured
Herrera: Injured
Fellaini: Injured
Anderson: Injured
Cleverley/Fletcher: I don't think both will ever play together in CM for us. Van Gaal has also said he'll play a different team against Sunderland and then against Milton Keynes.

So another chance for Kagawa there??
Maybe Powell (also i believe only Fergie thinks he's a CM)??
Maybe one of Pearson or Rothwell??

When did Anderson get injured??? Though of course it's usually a safe assumption that he's always injured, I hadn't heard anything. Thought he'd be in line to start here.

Smithy89 · Aug 25, 2014

bosnian_red said:
When did Anderson get injured??? Though of course it's usually a safe assumption that he's always injured, I hadn't heard anything. Thought he'd be in line to start here.

Anderson doesn't get injured, he gets fit.

Sean_RedDevil · Aug 25, 2014

bosnian_red said:
When did Anderson get injured??? Though of course it's usually a safe assumption that he's always injured, I hadn't heard anything. Thought he'd be in line to start here.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...g-suffers-hamstring-injury-at-Sunderland.aspx
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Peter Bolton has said Anderson is injured again (Peter Bolton was right about Rafael's injury too on Saturday)

Big Ben Foster · Aug 25, 2014

Smithy89 said:
Anderson doesn't get injured, he gets fit.

He does? That's news to me.

Dargonk · Aug 25, 2014

MK Don's 5-0 currently leading the score predictions :lol:

vibe · Aug 25, 2014

Dargonk said:
MK Don's 5-0 currently leading the score predictions

Whyever not?

ThaReaper01 · Aug 25, 2014

Just play the kids, please.

Iron Stove · Aug 25, 2014

Weird to play on a Tusday having just played on Sunday. Can't see someone like Blackett starting this game. Hopefully Rojo's papers will be in order as it would be great to see him play...

..although with our luck, he'd probably injure himself in the 1st half.

khoazany · Aug 25, 2014

We need to watch out Delle Ali of MK Dons.Probably their best player and only 18 years old.More importantly, he's a CM.I don't think he's more talented than some of our lads in the U21s but he already played League One football for a good few years so not really "inexperience" despite his age.

Wednesday at Stoke · Aug 25, 2014

Would love to see Ando get a run out here, assuming he's healthy. If he can be anything more than absolutely dire, that's already an upgrade for next week.

CG1010 · Aug 25, 2014

I am top of the prediction league!! Got to get this right to maintain my run!

ryan cook · Aug 25, 2014

could see castro pereira starting as gk if johnstone isnt fit. if wilson is fit he has to start. time for pearson and rothwell to step up and show what they can do.

vidal7 · Aug 25, 2014

Someone on twitter said its a bank holiday in england, so rojo wont be able to get a work permit. True this?

Motorman · Aug 25, 2014

Amos
Jones Keane Blackett
Rafael James
Cleverley Powell
Kagawa
Wilson Januzaj

quackattack · Aug 25, 2014

LeeFunK said:
Amos
Jones Keane Blackett
Rafael James
Cleverley Powell
Kagawa
Wilson Januzaj

I wouldn't be surprised to see this side perform miles better than the "first team"... Oh, but Rafael surely won't start.

khoazany · Aug 25, 2014

ryan cook said:
could see castro pereira starting as gk if johnstone isnt fit. if wilson is fit he has to start. time for pearson and rothwell to step up and show what they can do.

I think Amos will start but J.Castro Pereira is a good shout to be on the bench.Top prospect but only just turned 18 not long ago.

vidal7 · Aug 25, 2014

------J. pereira-------
----Thorpe---keane---blackett
-varela-----------------------james
-------Rothwell-----pearson--------
------------kagawa-----------------
-------Hernandez----wilson----------

3 subs - Periera, januzaj, sean goss .

PickledRed · Aug 25, 2014

With the dodgy start and no Euro football I will be very surprised if LvG fields a United XI that is full of reserves or kids. This is less common in the League Cup compared to 10 or 15 years ago.

Fans (of all sides ) like to talk up unproven youngsters but it's rare that they succeed in such environments. LvG needs a win. Going into this match with an experimental side would be incredibly risky.

PickledRed · Aug 25, 2014

vidal7 said:
------J. pereira-------
----Thorpe---keane---blackett
-varela-----------------------james
-------Rothwell-----pearson--------
------------kagawa-----------------
-------Hernandez----wilson----------

3 subs - Periera, januzaj, sean goss .

Woefully weak and very beatable.

Juansar_07 · Aug 25, 2014

Wow..the predictions.How opinions change so quickly here.Few weeks ago we were on a winning rampage while beating madrid,roma,Liverpool and now we don't even trust our team to beat KM Dons or whatever. Caf is amazing.

ryan cook · Aug 25, 2014

khoazany said:
I think Amos will start but J.Castro Pereira is a good shout to be on the bench.Top prospect but only just turned 18 not long ago.

i would rather see someone play that could have a role in the team in the future than someone that wont. amos is older than de gea and we has 3 keepers better than him so im quite certain amos will leave when his contract is up

khoazany · Aug 25, 2014

ryan cook said:
i would rather see someone play that could have a role in the team in the future than someone that wont. amos is older than de gea and we has 3 keepers better than him so im quite certain amos will leave when his contract is up

Lindegaard is leaving so can't see Amos leaving soon.He will when J.Pereira/Henderson/Milinkovic reached a certain stage of their development to replace him.

PickledRed said:
Woefully weak and very beatable.

Not really.This is a far stronger team than the team we put out vs. Barnsley in U21s pre-season (won 2-1 with Wilson not even fit).I would put Powell there though and we really need Blackett on weekend now Smalling injured.

vidal7 · Aug 25, 2014

PickledRed said:
Woefully weak and very beatable.

I am an avid watcher of under 18s and the reserves. Thorpe is a better defender than keane, blackett is a first teamer. So is james. Pearson and rothwell although inexperienced are not any worse than cleverly and fletcher. Our injuries and fletcher & cleverly playing yesterday means we will need to play youngsters.

Kagawa and hernandez again two experienced players, wilson is the best talent to come out of the academy . I think this team will beat Mk dons, it will be a competitive team and would be a good match.

PickledRed · Aug 25, 2014

vidal7 said:
I am an avid watcher of under 18s and the reserves. Thorpe is a better defender than keane, blackett is a first teamer. So is james. Pearson and rothwell although inexperienced are not any worse than cleverly and fletcher. Our injuries and fletcher & cleverly playing yesterday means we will need to play youngsters.

Kagawa and hernandez again two experienced players, wilson is the best talent to come out of the academy . I think this team will beat Mk dons, it will be a competitive team and would be a good match.

Fair enough but you're watching players playing at a lower level. It's not comparable to first team football. Maybe include a couple (Wilson, Blackett) but fielding a team where most are reserves is foolhardy.

Also, if these guys are better than current first teamers they'd be getting in the team.

mariko48 · Aug 25, 2014

13% voted MK Dons 5-0 United? What kind of joke is this?

khoazany · Aug 25, 2014

PickledRed said:
Fair enough but you're watching players playing at a lower level. It's not comparable to first team football. Maybe include a couple (Wilson, Blackett) but fielding a team where most are reserves is foolhardy.

There were only 4 reserves players in his line-up (5 if you count Wilson).Blackett,James,Keane are first teamers as they didn't play a single minute for the U21s this season (and obviously Kagawa,Hernandez are).Thorpe had Championship experience on loan and as close as MK Dons was to promotion last season, they're still a League One team.

I don't think we will start a team as inexperience as that but it will be something quite close.

vidal7 · Aug 25, 2014

PickledRed said:
Fair enough but you're watching players playing at a lower level. It's not comparable to first team football. Maybe include a couple (Wilson, Blackett) but fielding a team where most are reserves is foolhardy.

Also, if these guys are better than current first teamers they'd be getting in the team.

I think blackett has to be counted as a first teamer and wilson also has been training with first team since 1 august. james again has been in first team since july.
The only way we will know if the reserves are good enough is by fielding them in a competition that least matters to the club. These are the most talented of the lot and should be able to compete against a league one side. We need to show confidence in these players and let go of players like cleverly, anderson & fletcher. If lvg handt shown enough confidence in seedorf or ferguson in giggs we would not have two greats of the game.

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