West Bromwich Albion 2:2 Manchester United

Chaky_Best · Oct 8, 2014

We need to give players game time before the chocs against Chelsea, City and Arsenal.

Since we're back with 4 defenders, we didn't had the joy to have Evans, Jones, Carrick and Smalling back together.

It'll be the case soon so we should play asap. I think with those guys coming back together, we'll much more better defensively, at least more confident with the ball, and can play the first ball easier.

Would replace Blind by Carrick toward the end, like Di Maria with Adnan (can be a super sub this season when coming on)

-----------------------------De Gea----------------------------
Rafael---------------Jones--------Smalling--------------Rojo
------------------------------Blind-----------------------------
------------------Herrera----------Di Maria-------------------
------------------------------Mata-----------------------------
-----------------------Falcao-----Van Persie------------------

Walters_19_MuFc · Oct 8, 2014

Based on what Van Gaal said, Di Maria and Rojo might not start this one as Argentina have got a 12,000 mile journey in far east.

Van Gaal:

‘Di Maria and Rojo are coming back from Hong Kong. They are playing two friendly games. They are coming back with jetlag so I cannot train at once and then I have to wait.

‘Then I have only two or three days before the game with West Bromwich Albion. That is my problem I know and we live in this football world. I was also a national coach but it is not so easy as everybody thinks.’

They could potentially be rested for this one, although three days should be enough to recover. If not, I'd play:

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Blackett - Shaw
Blind
Herrera - Januzaj
Mata
Van Persie - Falcao

Lindegaard - Smalling - Valencia - Carrick - Fellaini - Young - Wilson

If Di Maria and Rojo have recovered:

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Herrera - Di Maria
Mata
Van Persie - Falcao

Lindegaard - Smalling - Valencia - Carrick - Fellaini - Januzaj - Wilson

Red Dreams · Oct 8, 2014

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/10...yers-injury-international-break-report-54903/
6 players coming back from injury.

yeehaaaaa.

Young will be available.

Sandikan · Oct 8, 2014

LeeFunK said:
I would use this game to change tactic slightly, we have got a fortnight to practice in training to try to create another versatile first 11.

As we still have yet to field what I consider to be our strongest side, both in formation and players, this seems a good time to go for it.

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick (C) Blind
Januzaj Herrera Di Maria
Falcao

Subs: Lindegaard, Blackett, McNair, Mata, Fellaini, Valencia, Van Persie

Use Carrick and blind to keep things tidy at the back and to be always be open to receive the ball. I think with Carrick in there we would see Blind get forward a little bit more, but still with defensive duties. This allows the attacking players to be creative and not worry as much about tracking back.

Bit of a risk putting Januzaj to start due to lack of first team mins thus far, but I think he is a quality player and could easily cause trouble to WBA.

I would also put Falcao in as the main man and see what he can do..

If he cant last the full game RVP to replace late on.

There's no way Mata won't start this game.

There would be no bigger message to him that he's not a main player in the plans if he can't get to start v West Brom with Rooney out.

Browniee · Oct 8, 2014

West Brom away will be very tough. Teams will throw every at us now knowing we are fragile at the back. A win here will be great for confidence going into the Chelsea game.
OT will be rocking for the renties, wish I was going

hundred_trillion · Oct 8, 2014

Same XI as vs Everton with Herrera and Jones in for Valencia and McNair. Let's get some consistency in the team.

Give Carrick and Januzaj some minutes.

Sean_RedDevil · Oct 9, 2014

Walters_19_MuFc said:
Based on what Van Gaal said, Di Maria and Rojo might not start this one as Argentina have got a 12,000 mile journey in far east.

Van Gaal:

‘Di Maria and Rojo are coming back from Hong Kong. They are playing two friendly games. They are coming back with jetlag so I cannot train at once and then I have to wait.

‘Then I have only two or three days before the game with West Bromwich Albion. That is my problem I know and we live in this football world. I was also a national coach but it is not so easy as everybody thinks.’

No doubt it's a hard trip for Di Maria and Rojo but they're playing against Hong Kong on Tuesday lunch-time (UK time) and we play against WBA on Monday evening.....i think they should be okay

Falcao will probably on the bench against WBA....he plays on Thursday morning (UK time)

I would love to see De Gea - Back Four (Whoever is fit) - Blind, Carrick - Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj - Van Persie

Insanity · Oct 9, 2014

Hope Jones, Herrera and Carrick are fit to play some part in the game. Start with the diamond and then go 433 with Chelsea next week in mind.

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera Di Maria
Januzaj
Falcao Van Persie

A couple of goals lead at half time would be terrific. Then change it in the second half to:

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick Blind
Herrera
Januzaj Falcao Di Maria

I know looking ahead can be a dangerous strategy, but a win against Chelsea the following week could define our season. Our back four would need protection in that game and Herrera's work rate at number 10 in the absence of Rooney. Also, we have looked vulnerable in the second half of each game played so far. I feel at times the midfield has been to open and Blind isn't able too provide the necessary protection. He needs help, and the experience of Carrick alongside him could be crucial.

Sorry Juan. Hope to read your terrific blogs post each game.

Paul_Scholes18 · Oct 9, 2014

Hope we go 4-3-3, but guess not. Don't think this is the game in which we start being good away from home, but I hope I am wrong. Think we need to be strong enough physically to not be bullied here and West Brom has pace as well.

LR7 · Oct 9, 2014

McNair has been excellent but with the big games coming up I'd be over the moon to see Jones start this game and get some match fitness back.

Chaky_Best · Oct 9, 2014

Hope we play a 4-2-3-1 to prepare the game vs Chelsea.

We will rest a few players also and give time to other to recover before our tough run

Vs WBA in a

De Gea

Rafa
Jones
Smalling
Shaw

Blind
Herrera

Di Maria
Mata
Adnan

RVP

matecro007 · Oct 9, 2014

Chaky_Best said:
Hope we play a 4-2-3-1 to prepare the game vs Chelsea.

We will rest a few players also and give time to other to recover before our tough run

Vs WBA in a

De Gea

Rafa
Jones
Smalling
Shaw

Blind
Herrera

Di Maria
Mata
Adnan

RVP

I think that too.

We just need to play safe for this game, that formation is optimal for us. Low pace , hard pressing , more passing.

I have no idea what will happen against Chelsea and dont want to think about it. Just praying for a point.

KiD MoYeS · Oct 9, 2014

Looking forward to having some defenders fit for this one.

de Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera di Maria
Mata
van Persie Falcao

surf · Oct 9, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Looking forward to having some defenders fit for this one.

de Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera di Maria
Mata
van Persie Falcao

Looks about right, though the front 3 is a bit short of pace and does not offer much in terms of defending from the front as a team. Maybe Januzaj for one of them. Hope Jones and Herrera are match fit.

Sied · Oct 9, 2014

Chaky_Best said:
Hope we play a 4-2-3-1 to prepare the game vs Chelsea.

We will rest a few players also and give time to other to recover before our tough run

Vs WBA in a

De Gea

Rafa
Jones
Smalling
Shaw

Blind
Herrera

Di Maria
Mata
Adnan

RVP

Rojo won't lose his spot but I expect Jones to partner him, injuries permitting.

If we switch to that formation I think it will only be when Carrick is fit to partner Blind. Although I'm not convinced LVG is going to move to that formation at all, as I'm not sure he'll drop a striker. If he's persisted with RVP for this long despite his form, I think he'll stick with 2 up top.

Shimo · Oct 9, 2014

Can't believe this match is still 10 days away - only good thing is more time for some of the injured to come back. Game can't come soon enough for me though.

Chaky_Best · Oct 10, 2014

Sied said:
Rojo won't lose his spot but I expect Jones to partner him, injuries permitting.

If we switch to that formation I think it will only be when Carrick is fit to partner Blind. Although I'm not convinced LVG is going to move to that formation at all, as I'm not sure he'll drop a striker. If he's persisted with RVP for this long despite his form, I think he'll stick with 2 up top.

Would like to give game time to Smalling and Jones. They need to be match fit because we're playing top sides now, and even if I hate Smalling, I think that he's better than what Rojo showed so far

If we can't play without Di Maria, we can cope without Rojo for one game (before Chelski) and after his international trip. I would play Rojo as left back against Chelsea, and so rest him this game against WBA

Ole'sbodyguard · Oct 10, 2014

Chaky_Best said:
Hope we play a 4-2-3-1 to prepare the game vs Chelsea.

We will rest a few players also and give time to other to recover before our tough run

Vs WBA in a

De Gea

Rafa
Jones
Smalling
Shaw

Blind
Herrera

Di Maria
Mata
Adnan

RVP

We are not going to be resting players with no CL or CC games. We only play one game a week. If anything they are going to be struggling for sharpness if we start rotating players this early in the season. It's very different without European football. Look how long Rooney's suspension is leaving him without first team football for United. On top of that, we have not won an away game all season so we are in a position to field any type of weakened side.

We are going to be playing our best eleven week in week out at the least up until the Christmas fixtures.

Man-P · Oct 10, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Looking forward to having some defenders fit for this one.

de Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera di Maria
Mata
van Persie Falcao

Man-P · Oct 10, 2014

KiD MoYeS said:
Looking forward to having some defenders fit for this one.

de Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera di Maria
Mata
van Persie Falcao

mouth-watering line up,but if it's a chelsea game the mata part is debatable though,everyone has to mark in a chelse game and you know that's mata's weakness and you are looking at him being under matic armpits..this game is a tactical challenge,more than just his creativity..

ChaddyP · Oct 10, 2014

i wonder if we should rest di maria and put in adnan... di maria traveling to china to play brazil must take a toll on him

hirotan69er · Oct 10, 2014

I'm sure that Starting XI will be no different from against Everton. Well, maybe couple of tweaks here and there. Seeing how it's been handled this season, Fletcher might start. I'm sure that Mata will start and I just want him to chase down the ball. I want him to see put up more fight. It's OK if he gets knocked down while chasing the ball. The important thing is that he shows the commitment.

The Man Himself · Oct 10, 2014

hirotan69er said:
I'm sure that Starting XI will be no different from against Everton. Well, maybe couple of tweaks here and there. Seeing how it's been handled this season, Fletcher might start. I'm sure that Mata will start and I just want him to chase down the ball. I want him to see put up more fight. It's OK if he gets knocked down while chasing the ball. The important thing is that he shows the commitment.

Herrera should be back for that game, so not sure Fletcher will start.

hirotan69er · Oct 10, 2014

The Man Himself said:
Herrera should be back for that game, so not sure Fletcher will start.

Oh that's right! Thanks for point that out for me. I cannot believe I totally forgot about that. Silly me.

marky · Oct 10, 2014

David
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Blind
Herrera Maria
Mata
Falcao RVP

As been said, no need to rest players without European football. The team needs to gel properly so we need to start our first 11 as often as possible. The only possible change I would make, is Carrick in for Mata and move Herrera up in the slot behind the strikers. You would think this isnt neccessary against WBA, but if we are playing that way against Chelsea (and City for that matter) Carrick would need some minutes as we know he is usually a slow starter. prediction: 1-0 our favour

Tim Henman · Oct 10, 2014

Nine days????….. Feck off!!!

In Rainbows · Oct 10, 2014

Sandikan said:
There would be no bigger message to him that he's not a main player in the plans if he can't get to start v West Brom with Rooney out.

No it's not. Mata being benched for the West Brom match still leaves him with two starts vs Everton and Chelsea, both games more important/difficult than the West Brom match. I think now is the time to give Januzaj his first start this season.

Dance If You Wanna Dance · Oct 10, 2014

Assuming players are available, I would like to see:

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Valencia Blind
Herrera
Falcao Di Maria

Duafc · Oct 10, 2014

Dance If You Wanna Dance said:
Assuming players are available, I would like to see:

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Valencia Blind
Herrera
Falcao Di Maria

Strong username.

detinUnaM · Oct 11, 2014

Dance If You Wanna Dance said:
Assuming players are available, I would like to see:

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick
Valencia Blind
Herrera
Falcao Di Maria

I have noticed many ppl want Di Maria up top but I doubt he can make the runs that a forward can and a forward's role in a 4-1-2-1-2 might not be suitable for him. He would eventually drop back to pick up the ball and when he looks up he will see only falcao in the box as compared to Falcao and RVP. I like the position and the way he is playing now and the way he runs with the ball through the midfield. Up top it might be easier to defend against him if his back is to the goal.

Also, Blind, Carrick and Valencia in a diamond might be a bit more static and slow as compared to Blind, Di Maria and Herrera. There is a lot of energy in that midfield to trouble WBA.

Dance If You Wanna Dance · Oct 11, 2014

detinUnaM said:
I have noticed many ppl want Di Maria up top but I doubt he can make the runs that a forward can and a forward's role in a 4-1-2-1-2 might not be suitable for him. He would eventually drop back to pick up the ball and when he looks up he will see only falcao in the box as compared to Falcao and RVP. I like the position and the way he is playing now and the way he runs with the ball through the midfield. Up top it might be easier to defend against him if his back is to the goal.

Also, Blind, Carrick and Valencia in a diamond might be a bit more static and slow as compared to Blind, Di Maria and Herrera. There is a lot of energy in that midfield to trouble WBA.

All fair points, I don't disagree. I'd like to see that team with Chelsea in mind.

When Rooney is available I'd like to see him at the tip of the diamond and Herrera in place of Valencia. Carrick and Blind will 'hold' will providing greater freedom for Herrera and Rooney. Di Maria is likely drift to the left, Rooney will provide another body in the penalty area and Herrera will move into an advanced central area.

Sort of like this:

Dumbstar · Oct 11, 2014

RyRy11 said:
West Brom look truly awful this year, I hope we can smash them to carry as much confidence into the Chelski game.

Having just played them they are nothing like an awful side. They've got strong midfielders who will press on Blind and Maria. Wisdom didn't play against us (loan agreement) so he'll bolster their defence. And of course Berahino who'll be itching for another high profile scalp related pay rise.

You're now playing against proper teams. If you beat Brom you won't hear me complaining about how crap they played against you, etc.

Longlivekeano · Oct 11, 2014

------------The Cat------------

-Rafael--Jones--Rojo----Shaw-

------------Herrera--------------

-----Januzaj--------Blind------

---------------Mata------------

-------Rooney------RVP------

Taher Shah · Oct 11, 2014

Longlivekeano said:
------------The Cat------------

-Rafael--Jones--Rojo----Shaw-

------------Herrera--------------

-----Januzaj--------Blind------

---------------Mata------------

-------Rooney------RVP------

Rooney is Suspened. Herrera as a defensive midfielder?

Magnus · Oct 11, 2014

De Gea
Rafa Jones Smalling Blackett
Januzaj Blind Pereira Di Maria
Wilson Falcao

I know Pereira won´t start but I think Mata should sit this one out. RVP can sort of look interested again before getting in the team but he is a certain starter sadly. Rojo is jetlegged and so is Di Maria but I would play Di Maria if he had to go straight to the Hawthorns from the airport. He is our best player by some distance

Clas Sified · Oct 11, 2014

Magnus said:
De Gea
Rafa Jones Smalling Blackett
Januzaj Blind Pereira Di Maria
Wilson Falcao

I know Pereira won´t start but I think Mata should sit this one out. RVP can sort of look interested again before getting in the team but he is a certain starter sadly. Rojo is jetlegged and so is Di Maria but I would play Di Maria if he had to go straight to the Hawthorns from the airport. He is our best player by some distance

While I also think Di Maria is currently our best player, I wouldn't play him. I'd play Young or Valencia instead. First of all, knowing our luck, Di Maria will get injured in this match if he plays, fecking us up for the next few (crucial) weeks. I don't want to risk potentially our season, against WBA. We're good enough to beat them without a few of our best.

Sandikan · Oct 11, 2014

TheUnitedWay said:
While I also think Di Maria is currently our best player, I wouldn't play him. I'd play Young or Valencia instead. First of all, knowing our luck, Di Maria will get injured in this match if he plays, fecking us up for the next few (crucial) weeks. I don't want to risk potentially our season, against WBA. We're good enough to beat them without a few of our best.

Eh?
We have one game a week, there's no way Di Maria needs resting at all.

Magnus · Oct 11, 2014

TheUnitedWay said:
While I also think Di Maria is currently our best player, I wouldn't play him. I'd play Young or Valencia instead. First of all, knowing our luck, Di Maria will get injured in this match if he plays, fecking us up for the next few (crucial) weeks. I don't want to risk potentially our season, against WBA. We're good enough to beat them without a few of our best.

As Sandikan said it´s only one game a week so Di Maria should play all our games. A CL-game coming up after WBA I might have thought differently though. Having said that, all they do is playing football, so they should be able to play most games even if in CL. NHL teams dont feck around with the line up. How hard can it be, skip a fecking trainingsession if you are tired doing the one thing you love most of all

Ronaldo's Mum Eh? · Oct 11, 2014

Duafc said:
Strong username.

u aware?

Momochiru · Oct 11, 2014

Magnus said:
As Sandikan said it´s only one game a week so Di Maria should play all our games. A CL-game coming up after WBA I might have thought differently though. Having said that, all they do is playing football, so they should be able to play most games even if in CL. NHL teams dont feck around with the line up. How hard can it be, skip a fecking trainingsession if you are tired doing the one thing you love most of all

You can't compare NHL to football. In NHL they play 3 periods of 20 minutes and they have unlimited subs, so players are only on the ice for a few minutes and they sit on the bench after.

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