2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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This guy has been bang on about AZ throughout

 

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Being pro private health care as a badge of honour is a mindset I don't think you can understand unless you're born and raised in it.
Then why isn't being pro private military (i.e. not having a military funded out of general taxation) also a badge of honour? Or ditto the police? Or the fire service?
 

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Did Trump do better with minorities than in 2016?
Yep, it looks that way. Performed better than expected with certain Latino demographics.

One example is Starr County in Texas.Its the most Hispanic county in America, and the third poorest. The per capita income is $7,000. In 2012, Obama won by 73 points. In 2016, Clinton won by 60 points. In 2020, Biden won by just 5 points.
 

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This will be an interesting dataset to dig into once it is publicly available. I don't have the time to scrape each state/counties vote tallies (they are all in different formats) but I am guessing someone will upload them to Kaggle at some point.
What proper data would be available though? I don't suppose the US collect demographic data from voters, and exit polls are not necessarily properly representative of the actual voting population, and certainly not of every single county in the country.
 

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Its not so much a worry, more a useful stick to beat the opposition with by tapping into the fears from the cold war in order to scare voters. If you remove the 'socialist' connotations, I'd wager many republican voters would actually respond favourably to certain 'socialist' policies. If Trump took the Obamacare plan, simply renamed it 'Trumpcare' and changed absolutely nothing, you'd be certain they'd lap it up.

A bit like how much of the Labour's policies from their manifesto in the last UK general election were well received, but their leader wasn't.
They genuinely fear it.
Many republicans and democrats feel any socialist policy is a slippery slope towards more socialist policies because they fear it will be popular.
 

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How embarrassing would it be to have called Arizona, then called Biden as President Elect, only to have to retract because Arizona goes to Trump. I just don't get the Arizona call one bit.
 

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All blue apparently.

Based on polling info? (Basically the same question as in my other post.)

I am wondering because the polls are not turning out to be that enormously reliable everywhere, so I'm not sure how well they would work for this. Maybe they would, but I would need to be convinced of that.
 

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When Biden wins, is there ant rules covering the transition period.
Does the Trump administration have to cooperate with the Biden administration ?
They don't have to cooperate but it would be incredibly unseemly and infuriating to a lot of people in both parties if they didn't.
 

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I think most of it is the lingering ghost of cold war indoctrination.
I reckon in a decade or two when the memories of Cold War will start to fade away, America could pivot to the left a bit.
 

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So you're saying he won't?
Its Trump, so any norms of regular decorum will likely fly out the window. He may not concede and litigate all the way to the final day before the electoral college and congress ratify the election.
 

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Then why isn't being pro private military (i.e. not having a military funded out of general taxation) also a badge of honour? Or ditto the police? Or the fire service?
They're all odd to have private too, if you grew up in Britain. Health care is the one that impinges on your life miles more though.
 

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Yep, it looks that way. Performed better than expected with certain Latino demographics.

One example is Starr County in Texas.Its the most Hispanic county in America, and the third poorest. The per capita income is $7,000. In 2012, Obama won by 73 points. In 2016, Clinton won by 60 points. In 2020, Biden won by just 5 points.
Because i believe employment and income was higher in minorities than it was under Obama until the pandemic hit.
 

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Why are white people so pro Republican?
Due to the GOP's appeal to people from rural areas (who tend to have a more conservative mindset) and people that don't need to worry about diversity/race-related issues.
 

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Due to the GOP's appeal to people from rural areas (who tend to have a more conservative mindset) and people that don't need to worry about diversity/race-related issues.
And simple racism. Let's not pretend it's not the case.
 

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So when will the Secret Service be allowed to shoot at Trump? January 20?
 

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I understand that, but Trump is not going to make it easy.
One more question are White House staff picked by the POTUS or there who ever it is.
White House staffers are picked by the president and the transition team. Whoever Biden picks as Chief of Staff will also have a large say in who is recruited.
 
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I suspect that Trump may not turn up for Biden's inauguration, and he will make sure that the handover will be as difficult as possible.
He may yank off the toilet paper holder in the bathroom and when Biden poops, he will realize that he has no toilet paper.
 

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I think american is unique in a way that they have a high percentages of minorities. Blacks alone is 15 percent? Lations asians etc would made up 10?


Global healthcare could be seen as paying for them and with their racist issue it could be the stumbling block

Most european and uk and Scandinavian dont have this issue. They're diverse but seems to be one majority and that's that.

Just an observation.
 
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