All three were bankrolled to the hilt though.
He never built a squad the way that Klopp did.
Klopp would be on three titles under normal circumstances.
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He never built a squad the way that Klopp did.
Klopp would be on three titles under normal circumstances.
Its a myth that he won the league with empty stadiums. The first 31 games were under normal conditions and Liverpool were about 18 points clear before covid hit.
Sir Alex would be on several more too if it wasn’t for Chelsea and City blood money
This is how the table looked before the COVID stoppage BTW.
They were winning the title COVID or no COVID the revisionism over something that happened fairly recently is embarrassing.
Yep, feck him and good riddance.
They were on course for a 107 point season before covid ffs, won 26 out of the first 27 matches.This is how the table looked before the COVID stoppage BTW.
They were winning the title COVID or no COVID the revisionism over something that happened fairly recently is embarrassing.
Yeah it's embarrassing how people want to downplay his title winning season because covid hit with ten or so games left. They practically had the title wrapped up by Christmas
Sad to see him go, never even won a legitimate title his entire time at Liverpool
Personally I think it is hard to compare with Mourinho as the level of competition was quite different for the PL and CL.
During the years where Mourinho won the titles, it was basically a 2 horse race between us and Chelsea. The period where Liverpool won were more competitive, including a cheat with unlimited dodgey fundings. That probably explains why Mourinho has more PL than Klopp.
Conversely for CL, the early Chelsea years were bascially dominated by the spanish clubs, notably the barcelona team which arguably the best team in recent history. Most clubs don't stand a chance. Even during the time when we had a top quality team and attacking power, we only managed 1 CL.
Titles aside, I will lean towards Klopp over Mourinho purely because he did those with far less budget.
feck me City didn’t put any pressure on them at allThis is how the table looked before the COVID stoppage BTW.
They were winning the title COVID or no COVID the revisionism over something that happened fairly recently is embarrassing.
Na, Arsenal greatest ever team played during his first Chelsea stint. Wasn’t a two horse race
That's Alonso scratched off the Utd shortlist,always wonder if Klopp would have taken job had Woody not been a clown
Come on, why are so many United fans acting so defensive about Klopp.
When Pep will retired I hope you won't bring the doping aspect when people will be comparing his tenure of trebles and 3PL on the bounce.
Plus nobody is comparing Sir Alex to Klopp !!
Polite reminder that Klopp delivered 110 points from a possible 114 on offer at one point in his tenure.
36 wins
2 draws
0 losses
Something we as United fans probably we will never see or experience in our lifetime. In a 38 game spread we don't lose a match while winning 36 games in it.
You can understand why some of us are so bitter with him, especially with how we lose half of our games this days.Btw Klopp can win the league this season he's leading as we speak, while us we are 8th or what number
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Better than Wenger? With the way they used to play
I might be wrong but I believe that after 27 games we'd won 26 and had 1 draw against United. City dropped 8 points in the first 8 games of the season iirc.
Kind of mad that between 2007 and 2013 United were three points away from winning seven titles in a row.
I hear David Moyes would be open to an approach.
Saving himself for a second go at the United job when ETH gets the boot.
Still not enough to convince me they get that book thrown at them by the authorities
A huge loss for the PL.
Iconic figure really, and in my opinion the best PL manager since Fergie.
I really, really hope it’s not a health related issue and I wish him well.
Iconic figure really, and in my opinion the best PL manager since Fergie.
I really, really hope it’s not a health related issue and I wish him well.
Considering his entire coaching staff is also leaving, I doubt it's health related.
He's probably just knackered and feels like a break.
Yeah, hope you’re right.
Who do you fancy next? Alonso?
I could also always see Tuchel at Liverpool for some reason also.
That has to be it.
IF he doesn’t win it this year that’ll be 1 league title in 8 years and 0 in the last 4? He has to be a tad disappointed with that.
But seemingly without any pressure. By the looks of that table up there City would have had to win all final 10 games just to reach 87.
Not saying you didn’t deserve it
I guess Alonso is the best option out there? There aren't that many inspiring managerial choices out there to be honest. Makes me wonder who City will go for after Pep.
Oh yeah from about January onwards we had it won. No pressure whatsoever. We went to 2nd place Leicester in December and beat them 4-0.
All jokes aside he will definitely keep his word about not managing here again. He knows how big the rivalry is between the clubs so no chance he burns that legacy. Yes he may have gone back on his word about not spending big,however this is an entirely different prospect altogether.
Agreed. Unless he’s out of options 5-7 years down the line, I can’t see him moving to another team in England while his stock is hot.
Yeah same here,says it all about how badly we have been run for 11 years that neither of the best two managers got Utd job doesn't it
Roberto De Zerbi.
Fully expect you to put a deal in place with him
Never in a million years, can’t stand the man and am looking forward to not having to see him rant and rave at officials and yet somehow get away with it and be the media’s darling.
This is a great post.
And Liverpools director of football is leaving as well. Just as they finish the extension to that stand things look suddenly rather bleak for the Scouse feckers.
United in that time was going through a big transition and Arsenal had just had their win.
Saying Klopp had a few meh seasons in between his great seasons but ignoring that Mourinho got sacked 4 times in the Prem?
Points totals change yes, but 99 and 97 and 92 are extremely good achievements regardless that deserve some credit, even if only 1 won a title. The main credit is building a side that won all 4 of the main trophies though, which Mourinho or Wenger never did.
Yes, 100%. Klopps Liverpool was the best side in Europe/the world at one point, and was a top 3 in Europe for a solid 3-5 year stretch along with City and Madrid. Mourinho's Chelsea never reached that height relative to European sides, neither did Wengers Arsenal.
It's not just 1 prem to 3 prems. It's 1 prem and 1 CL title. It's being able to build a team that actually became the best in Europe/the world, vs a manager who never made his (PL) team the best in the world, or even top 3 really.
Klopp is 100% top 5, there's a clear group of Sir Alex, Pep, Klopp, Wenger and Mourinho there. It's just the order of that 2nd group, where for me if a manager made a team that won the CL and the league, then they automatically go into their own group. Mourinho never got his Prem side into the CL final. He can't go in that group, don't care how many league titles he's won, it proves he had a ceiling to how good he did, despite having no budget (while again, Klopp always operated on a much lower budget).
He's ahead of Mourinho because he built a team that won the league and the Champions League. Not any other reason. The extra points is a bonus. Klopp also reached 2 other CL finals with Liverpool, while operating on a small budget relative to the others. Mourinho never reached a CL final with a prem side.
That's not really a point against Liverpool, they had 27 wins from 29 games before the pandemic, if anything the pandemic killed their momentum and was the reason they finished below 100 points. They were 25 points ahead of 2nd before COVID came in.
Anyway. They're cnuts. But I have to respect Klopp who is a great manager and has done a phenomenal job over there, and has reached the 3rd highest peak that any premier league manager has achieved, after Sir Alex and Pep. Once another manager wins the CL and the prem, they can join that group too.