holdsteady
Hates Sir Alex Ferguson
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30m and Greenwood. Thank you very much
It’s not really that simple, as 90m players don’t simply get sold from top clubs. So in this instance, this is a forced sale, which weakens their leverage considerably, because if he’s not told then he simply stays and collects huge money. That means a smart club should not be offering his market value, but considerably less. Barcelona either take it and get rid of the wages, or keep him and pay them, which they don’t want.I feel like this can be resolved simply.
What is FDJ worth in the open market? £90 million as a world class midfield is probably about right, considering how much the likes of Rice and Caiceido went for.
Sell him for that, then pay him off the £30M he's owed. They keep £60M and that's job done.
Yes they did and weren’t successful and time is running out for them as is his contract. FDJ could have taken that at face value and moved but didn’t because he is smitten by the club and his partner likes it there. Any other player would have probably come out and just said that I would move if they just paid me what they owe me but he continues to be the good servant of the club. It’s a question of how much he would be willing to go through because Barca would be feeling the pressure of his wages as this drags onThat seems a strange take, considering Barca did everything they could (constant public pressure to turn the fans against him, attempted to sell him, threatened legal action) two years ago and he just sat back and refused to accept anything other than them continuing to pay the contract that he had.
Ma, if they wanted him they would have moved for him by nowThey'd probably have to force him out for real this time but city, bayern even arsenal are the much likelier destinations than we'll be.
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Teams pay very high amounts when they have needs. I think he is not going to renew his contract.You do realize Barca aren't giving anything in any of those options? Everyone else is ceding something for Barca's benefit?
Barcelona could well accept such an offer.I feel like this can be resolved simply.
What is FDJ worth in the open market? £90 million as a world class midfield is probably about right, considering how much the likes of Rice and Caiceido went for.
Sell him for that, then pay him off the £30M he's owed. They keep £60M and that's job done.
The fact that the 66M salary limit has been lowered does not change the situation. Even if that amount had gone up.Just read that Barca’s spending cap is getting reduced by €66m (down to €204m) meaning they are in for a very tough summer, as they physically can’t buy any players unless they sell (or pull another lever out their arses).
Yeah, feels like the guy can’t be anymore clear at this point. Not a crumb of encouragement, and yet here we areThis needs to die.
Unbelievable really, he has pretty much said on multiple occasions that he doesn't want to leave.Yeah, feels like the guy can’t be anymore clear at this point. Not a crumb of encouragement, and yet here we are
Again, he made it clear that he wants to stay.Future
"Lately I've been getting a bit irritated. I'm pissed off with what the press writes in general, a lot of things come out that aren't true. I can't understand it. They keep saying things that aren't true. I don't know why you're not ashamed to say it".
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"You are talking a lot about my contract, situation, salary... it's a lot of smoke and lies. You say I'm getting paid like 40 and so on... it's far from reality. I'm not going to say figures. They have invented a story that is not true. I'm very happy at Barça, it's the club of my dreams and I hope to continue playing here for many years to come.
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"I can't say because I don't know. I hope not. I know that a lot of things are made up because you write things that are not true. You are doing it in general with a lot of players and coaches. I don't have the feeling that you are going to change, but you should because you can't write things that are not true".
Five seasons
"I consider the club, my teammates, the people I work with on a daily basis, the staff... and I'm happy. I'm enjoying it a lot. If someone says that I play badly in the press, it doesn't matter, because everyone can have their own opinion, but the lies... you have to change it".
They'd probably knew he wasn't moving then but if he is truly on the market I can't see how city for example wouldn't move for him.Ma, if they wanted him they would have moved for him by now
Isnt 27 the age you would want to be paying the big wages? Those are prime years. As if 27 is old, that would be atleast 5 more prime years usually. At least.Even if he wanted to join - is this not the sort of signing we are trying to move away from?
Big fee, big wages for someone who will be 27 by the summer.
They're the players they want to sell to solve their problem. They're not the players other clubs will want to buy.Barca's wage bill exceeds what La Liga will let them spend, selling their two highest earners De Jong and Lewandowski is practically a must for them.
I don’t disagree that 27 is peak years.Isnt 27 the age you would want to be paying the big wages? Those are prime years. As if 27 is old, that would be atleast 5 more prime years usually. At least.
When does a player deserve the big wages anyway?
Cant pay young players the big wages because it makes them 'think they made it and lose their hunger'. (Rashford, Sancho, Martial will be used as example here)
Cant pay old players big wages because 'they just want a last pay day'. (Casemiro, Varane will be used as examples here)
Agreed, Frenkie (and/or his Missus) didn't want to come to OT anyway. He would have just been another cruiser that took a fat cheque every month.We need to forget about Frenkie. He made the right decision for himself and ETH wasted too much time and credibility chasing him.
Errr we had mate, you bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago!We need to forget about Frenkie. He made the right decision for himself and ETH wasted too much time and credibility chasing him.
Yes, we need to keep this thing dead.Errr we had mate, you bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago!
Was literally thinking the same hahahErrr we had mate, you bumped a thread from 2 weeks ago!