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CM

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Rushed back, clearly not fit, now possibly out for the season. I get that Shaw does have injury problems but we're basically asking for him to get hurt playing him like this and it's been like this for the past couple of months. He gets injured, we rush him back and play him every minute of every game, he gets a reoccurring injury. It's hard for me to blame Shaw too much in this scenario.
Yep. This one's on the manager.
 

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Letting Regulion go back in January is going to go down as one of the dumbest decisions
 

IRN-BRUno

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Can't deny that his fitness issues are a big problem but it's also poor management. When he came back earlier in the season after 3 months out, Ten Hag then started him for the next 8 games in less than a month until he was injured. And now he goes off against Villa, gets labelled as 'doubtful for the weekend' in Thursday's press conference but is risked anyway 3 days later.
 

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What happens to Malacia next season then? When he’s no longer injured. For the same reason you mentioned, he won’t be sold this summer either.
Tough situation but a loan might be on the cards if he stays fit in the first half of next season.
 

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Dalot to left-back is the sensible response to this news. Hopefully that other dopey full-back, Wan-Bissaka, is back soon.
 

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Can't deny that his fitness issues are a big problem but it's also poor management. When he came back earlier in the season after 3 months out, Ten Hag then started him for the next 8 games in less than a month until he was injured. And now he goes off against Villa, gets labelled as 'doubtful for the weekend' in Thursday's press conference but is risked anyway 3 days later.
There’s nobody else. That’s the main problem, it’s a club and recruitment issue. Shaw with his injuries at this point should be backup to someone and used for rotation and to cover LCB when Martinez gets his customary injury
 

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What about 20 y.o. Sam Murray, who started for the U21 vs City two days ago? Is he not better than 16 y.o. Amass?
 

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There’s nobody else. That’s the main problem, it’s a club and recruitment issue. Shaw with his injuries at this point should be backup to someone and used for rotation and to cover LCB when Martinez gets his customary injury
Reguilon was available for those 8 games earlier in the season. And against Luton there were options with Lindelof or Amrabat. Not ideal but for 1 game to give Shaw an extra week's recovery it's not a disaster.
 

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What about 20 y.o. Sam Murray, who started for the U21 vs City two days ago? Is he not better than 16 y.o. Amass?
Not a bad shout at all.
Louie had the balls to drop Joe Riley and CBJ into the deep end and it actually worked out well for us. Can not be worse than moving another player out of position.
 

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What about 20 y.o. Sam Murray, who started for the U21 vs City two days ago? Is he not better than 16 y.o. Amass?
I don’t know anything about him, but the best left-back in the U21’s couldn’t be much worse than Lindy playing there.
 

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What about 20 y.o. Sam Murray, who started for the U21 vs City two days ago? Is he not better than 16 y.o. Amass?
Murray is on some sort of loan deal with Rochdale that allows him to still train with our academy and play for the 21's.
 

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I imagine if this true, then we'll start preparing for matches with Lindelof at RB and Dalot LB.

It's going to hurt us. We just have to hope that AWB is fit soon and we don't lose Dalot.
 

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I love Shaw. Him and Martinez transform our team with their ability on the ball. But surely we should be looking at bringing a proper replacement in ( god knows whats up with Malacia, hes on target to miss an entire season )
 

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Annoying. Awb is nowhere near being match fit if reports are too believed. Think it’s better to go amrabat left back for the foreseeable. Lindelof is too much of a liability at left back.
 

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He’s been here for a decade now and except 22/23 season I don’t think he’s ever managed to stay fit throughout the season.
So frustrating.
Its about time we start phasing him out the team.
 

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Need a new LB. Malacia is pointless and I’ve felt for sometime now that while Shaw is a gifted footballer he’s pretty average defensively now.

What he needs is real competition for his place not a clear understudy like Malacia.
 

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Time to be looking for a replacement.

Theo Hernandez would be top of my list. I'd even suggest Robinson at Fulham or Doughty from Luton as potential rotation/backup for his replacement.
 

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I seen a tweet which said he’s missed 200 games for us since he joined. That’s insane and certainly not what you want from your first choice LB regardless of how good he is.
 

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He’s been here for a decade now and except 22/23 season I don’t think he’s ever managed to stay fit throughout the season.
So frustrating.
Its about time we start phasing him out the team.
His injuries phase him out anyway, what we actually need is competent cover to phase in.
 

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Rooney

16/1751 days433
15/1673 days438
14/1514 days15
13/1421 days15
12/1360 days320
11/1218 days16
10/1121 days26
09/1014 days14
08/0962 days415
07/0825 days17
05/0645 days18



Shaw


SeasonDaysInjuriesGames missed
23/2492 days116
22/2313 days13
21/2285 days418
20/2189 days218
19/2091 days323
18/1953 days411
16/17176 days230
15/16288 days164
14/15121 days431
12/1317 days19
The one thing these numbers don't say are the types of injuries. I always worry when a player has muscle injuries, like hamstring or groin injuries, as when they start, they tend to be repetitive. Rooney had foot break injuries, usually after a tackle. Shaw is getting a lot of muscle injuries, usually without any contact, if we forget the leg break where it was not his fault at all.

I hope we show real intent this summer and go for a player of true quality like Theo Hernandez from AC Milan. We can keep Shaw, as he can cover 2 postions, LCB and LB.
 

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Massive loss, especially with no Licha on that side. Lindelof at LB is a disaster. I would sooner blood an academy player right now
 

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The idea of having Dalot as LB is big NO to me. Dalot has just built good connection on the right with Garnacho, why should we ruin it for the sake of playing 2 players (him and Lindelof) out of position? Why don’t we just play one player out of position instead of two and Stick with Dalot on the right. Play Bissaka or Lindelof on the left or May be even amrabat or someone else.

We need to sign new left back because Shaw is so unreliable.
 

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The idea of having Dalot as LB is big NO to me. Dalot has just built good connection on the right with Garnacho, why should we ruin it only to play 2 players (him and Lindelof) out of position? Stick with Dalot on the right. Play Bissaka or Lindelof on the left or May be even amrabat or someone else.

We need to sign new left back because Shaw is so unreliable.
May is long retired fella.
 

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The one thing these numbers don't say are the types of injuries. I always worry when a player has muscle injuries, like hamstring or groin injuries, as when they start, they tend to be repetitive. Rooney had foot break injuries, usually after a tackle. Shaw is getting a lot of muscle injuries, usually without any contact, if we forget the leg break where it was not his fault at all.

I hope we show real intent this summer and go for a player of true quality like Theo Hernandez from AC Milan. We can keep Shaw, as he can cover 2 postions, LCB and LB.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/luke-shaw/verletzungen/spieler/183288

SeasonInjuryfromuntilDaysGames missed
23/24Muscle injuryAug 23, 2023Nov 23, 202392 days16
22/23unknown injuryApr 6, 2023Apr 19, 202313 days3
21/22Leg injuryApr 2, 2022May 13, 202241 days8
21/22Corona virusMar 2, 2022Mar 16, 202214 days3
21/22Hamstring injuryJan 18, 2022Jan 31, 202213 days2
21/22Head injuryNov 20, 2021Dec 7, 202117 days5
20/21Hamstring injuryNov 7, 2020Dec 7, 202030 days9
20/21Ankle injuryJul 14, 2020Sep 11, 202059 days9
19/20IllJan 3, 2020Jan 10, 20207 days2
19/20Muscle injuryOct 18, 2019Nov 27, 201940 days10
19/20Hamstring injuryAug 24, 2019Oct 7, 201944 days11
18/19bruiseMar 18, 2019Mar 29, 201911 days2
18/19bruiseDec 2, 2018Dec 21, 201819 days4
18/19Ankle injuryOct 7, 2018Oct 19, 201812 days2
18/19concussionSep 8, 2018Sep 19, 201811 days3

16/17Foot injuryApr 30, 2017Aug 20, 2017112 days13
16/17Groin injuryOct 30, 2016Jan 2, 201764 days17
15/16Tibia and fibula fractureSep 16, 2015Jun 30, 2016288 days64
14/15Facial injuryMay 11, 2015May 21, 201510 days1
14/15Hamstring injuryMar 9, 2015Apr 16, 201538 days7
14/15Ankle injuryNov 24, 2014Jan 1, 201538 days11
14/15Hamstring injuryAug 7, 2014Sep 11, 201435 days12

Edit: They don't seem to have any injuries for him in 17/18 season which is wrong I guess. He played only 11 PL games that season
 
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AltiUn

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Not a bad shout at all.
Louie had the balls to drop Joe Riley and CBJ into the deep end and it actually worked out well for us. Can not be worse than moving another player out of position.
Murray's no where near United first team standard.
 

CM

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or the Medical department that specializes in this?
The manager has final say. He was worried enough to withdraw him at half time the game before and admitted he wasn't sure whether he'd be fit to start for Luton. It's his job to assess that situation and he's made a bad call.