Yup. I had no idea either. That’s how supposedly relevant they are.
Haha Newcastle
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How embarrassing. I initially thought it was when they made the cup final last year.
This trend of twitter handle bantz is genuinely pathetic. Clubs and their officials tend to be careful and professional about their statements. Then you have twitter handles behaving like some teenage influencer dimwit.
Newcastle fans should stick to their rivalry with Sunderland and Middlesbrough instead of trying to push some fake rivalry with us.
Also Newcastle fans calling fans from other fanbases arrogant and entitled is quite hypocritical.
It's bizarre. They're a bit obsessed with creating this one-sided rivalry.
The audacity to be outraged at our owner with the state of their own. Pun intended.
They put in a title challenge against us once in the 90’s and now think we’re rivals. They’ll forever be that wee club in the North East no matter how much money they’ve got.
They are just like a Man City tribute act these days albeit with a much larger fanbase
What a beautiful story
I wonder if Newcastle realise that their entire gardening leave meltdown hurts their chances of replacing him with another top option.
All they are doing is making themselves look bad and putting off any potential replacement, why would anyone go there now knowing if they ever get the chance to move to a bigger one the club will hold them to ransom and block them from working for 12 months.
Why even sign contracts, let everyone do whatever he wants.
Why? Does his contract say they can choose to put him on gardening leave (as they have), make that last almost two years, not pay him and not allow him to speak to potential employers?
Be great to see this contract they apparently have. Signed. Legal.
It does seem like unfair contract terms. He should take them to an employment tribunal.
gardening leave means they pay him
It still unfair.
They could legitimately insist on him not targeting any players he recommended during his time their and that he works his notice.
A player can force a move through and a manager can move at any time and help themselves to any players they like at their former club.
It's unfair and I can't see how it could be argued any other way.
I can see both sides of it. Ashworth no doubt has a contract to fulfill and Newcastle are within their right to demand an outrageous sum to release him early from it (since it's clear there was never a predetermined value). But on the other hand, they look like absolute cnuts holding him hostage for another 18 months just because he got an offer to head up a bigger club, and I'd guess it's not going to look good when they are trying to find a replacement.
As someone who has never worked in any field but healthcare, are things like this normal in other jobs? Myself, and people around me, change jobs all the time. All this stuff about not being able to leave a job to go to another one seems so weird to me.
In accountancy, generally, you're not allowed to steal clients off your former employer for a period, may 6 or 12 months, but people still do it. Generally, it's not usually worth kicking up a fuss.
But he was happy enough to sign the contract in the first place no?
Senior management positions often contain stipulations about working for direct rivals. It may be in the Newcastle ownership they consider him moving to you as strengthening a direct rival so obviously will do everything to make that as difficult as possible.
if he is considered that good in the role your employing him in your wait for him.
It's more common the higher up you are in your field. High ranking executives and employees will often have non-competes in their contract to stop them from immediately working in the same field under a rival competitor for a certain period of time, and other similar restrictions might be in place. I'm not sure what Ashworth's contract entails and because he's working for a sporting organization they might have more power to hold him at the club similar to how a player can't just quit/resign and then immediately sign for another club. Because otherwise you'd assume Ashworth would just resign, but it seems even if he did so he'd still be restricted to work for another club until those 18 months are up. So we have to buy him out, and Newcastle is pissed about it so instead is demanding an absurd fee while just paying out his contract and forcing him to sit on his ass.
I worked with someone, about 20 years ago, who wasn't all that high up in our company but was going to a competitor.
As soon as she told them about she was escorted off the premises and put on gardening leave for her notice period which was a month or so. I'd never heard of the term before then.
It seemed like a sweet deal to me.
It is normal when you work with crucial and confidential information. I guess it's a bit different in healthcare because it's essentially a scientific area - how to treat people etc is discussed in scientific journals everybody has access to (at least if he pays). It's different in a lot of engineering disciplines (which I work in) where solutions are not published but instead seen as crucial intellectual property of the company. Non-compete clauses and gardening leave if you quit are quite typical even for simple engineers. And the crucial point here is the non-compete. I can quit my job at the usual notice period, but I can't start working at some companies for some time after due to the non-compete rules (and I would have to get paid for that period if my current company insists on it, even if I wouldn't work anymore for them).
God, they’re butt hurt. Sad bunch… at least Arsenal and City (also sad fans) have decent teams. And history.
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This is professional football. Has any company tried to sell you to another healthcare company to make a profit? It's a whole different world.
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Just like their fan base; rattled out of their skin
We could swap him for their DoF
Imagine the biggest manager you've ever had is Rafa Benitez. And the secondhand version after no club in the world wanted him.
Sir. Bobby Robson
That’s literally why I asked, because it’s a different world that I didn’t know anything about. No need for the snarky tone.
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I do find it quite funny Newcastle fans looking down their nose at other teams owners when they've probably got the worst of the lot. Bless them.
Silly stripey shithouses
They’re such an embarrassing club. Some of the worst fans in football, too.
They’re so fecking rattled!! It’s hilarious. Shown themselves up for the tinpot club that they are.
Lovely. The anger, the ranting.
It's the multiple wives that I draw the line at. Murdering a journalist is fair game but you can't be getting a divorce and remarrying.
They love creating rivals. Their fanbase started a weird rivalry with ours too a couple of seasons ago. Genuinely one of the strangest fanbases out there.
They've got Sunderland. No one else cares.
They think they’re a big club and don’t realise the rest of the league barely even gives them a second thought.