So is he going to act on his words and kick out Truss and Braverman?
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we’re a welcoming country, who loves its neighbours, except if they try and come here.
Extremist groups are a threat to democracy - presume he means previous and present members of his cabinet.
Starmer will presumably, like the Public Order Act, want to give everything Rishi has planned to curb civil liberties 'time to bed in'
What a time to have two of the cnuts leading parties.
What a time to have two of the cnuts leading parties.
Not planning any new laws, not providing more resources for anything, it was just a man in the pub type whinge really.
What a gaslighting prick!
Maybe getting your fascist MP's to stop spouting their bile and driving up hate on GB News would be a good start to tackling extremism! Look inward you cretin.
Maybe getting your fascist MP's to stop spouting their bile and driving up hate on GB News would be a good start to tackling extremism! Look inward you cretin.
Shout out to Lindsay Hoyle for kicking all this off to protect the leader of the opposition.
From Reddit:
“My family and I owe [this country] so much”
Yes. Taxes mainly.
But in all seriousness, that speech was a fecking waste of time. He has opened himself up now for questions about Braverman and Truss etc. causing division
“My family and I owe [this country] so much”
Yes. Taxes mainly.
But in all seriousness, that speech was a fecking waste of time. He has opened himself up now for questions about Braverman and Truss etc. causing division
looks like the tories have decided that everyone else is a terrorist but them, and they’re the only safe vote.
Think he hired Marcus Rashford’s ghost writer for that one
The PREVENT strategy is fundamentally flawed, as it doesn't address the leading cause of radicalisation in the Muslim community: namely, the actions of the UK towards Muslim countries.
So he's going to double its funding. Great stuff.
So he's going to double its funding. Great stuff.
Also borrowing one from the Trump playbook and encouraging the police to use more force.
All I can think is "what is he REALLY planning to do with these new powers?"
Fearmongering cnut
So full of sh!t.
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Elect them. Change them.
If you don’t, yes, it’s your fault it’s not a fecking decimation.
You’ve got to hand it to the cat man he chewed Coates up and spat him out like a fur ball.
These cnuts sow division at every opportunity.
Just. fecking. Vote.
Hate Starmer all you like. I wanted Corbyn on Steroids. I’ve got Starmer. So fecking what. It’s a start.
I campaigned for Corbyn. I’ll vote for Starmer. If you hate the Tories and don’t vote, honestly… go feck yourself. Grow up. Vote for the best available. Then threaten violence and deselection if that vote doesn’t promote a social good.
But vote the Tories out of existence. Even if your constituency is 150,000 people and you are a small coin in the well… be that small coin. Making the loss differential 20,001 instead of 20,000 matters. Shout loud. feck these fascists. End them. Make every loss a message.
fecking vote. .
Hate Starmer all you like. I wanted Corbyn on Steroids. I’ve got Starmer. So fecking what. It’s a start.
I campaigned for Corbyn. I’ll vote for Starmer. If you hate the Tories and don’t vote, honestly… go feck yourself. Grow up. Vote for the best available. Then threaten violence and deselection if that vote doesn’t promote a social good.
But vote the Tories out of existence. Even if your constituency is 150,000 people and you are a small coin in the well… be that small coin. Making the loss differential 20,001 instead of 20,000 matters. Shout loud. feck these fascists. End them. Make every loss a message.
fecking vote. .
Give it a rest mate.
In summary: Vote for them, then complain when you have no political leverage, before going back to vote for them again but this time to keep the Tories out. Rinse and repeat.
I agree.
I won't be voting Labour this time, and I'll never vote for the Tories or Lib Dems, but I'll never not vote.
All Western mainstream media are such insidious cnuts, it's unreal. Continuing with their Islamaphobic and divisive agenda. I honestly don't understand why people still watch them or turn to them for any news whatsoever. Let alone opinions.
There were two men talking in that clip and Galloway was the least dangerous of them.
One day soon mate. When the country is governed by adults and we drag the apathetic types like you, back to normal.
I don’t care that you don’t care. But for the love of god, shut the feck up or do something. Criticising people that give a damn on a web forum is microdick behaviour.
Vote or don’t. I don’t care. But don’t celebrate the low grade success when it arrives if you didn’t help make it happen.
‘Give it a rest’. Grow up man. Do something.
Honest question, did you give a feck about every single child that died from munitions sold by the Uk? Because the number of children killed in Gaza is dwarfed by the numbers killed elsewhere. To the point of irrelevance.
You seem to have drawn a line of tolerance around your feet that sees hundreds of thousands of dead children excluded from your compassion.
I dare say that you and I are quite close politically. I think my perfect world principles are probably left of yours. But why on earth do you keep trotting out shit about Gaza while you ignore all the other infanticide on earth. I mean, I get it. But you are drawing hard lines there that make you look embarrassingly thin elsewhere.
It'll probably take someone like him to change the voting system whilst in one of the big two. He's not the one that'll manage it though, nearing the end of his political career and too ostracised by the other parties.
That really was a battering
I was briefly tempted to think that Galloway could even cause a leftward course correction from Starmer. But that would be about as optimistic as expecting the tories to be wiped out at the GE.
Nah plenty of us are also deeply concerned about children in Yemen for instance.
Though it would be nice if the leader of the party you're adamant we should vote for didn't pull out all the stops to absolve a genocidal state, punishes his own MPs who vote for a ceasefire (the feckin gall of those antisemites), and go on the record on public radio to claim Israel had a right to deprive Palestinians of water, fuel and medicine. Like it or not that does constitute a red line for some of us. Like I've always said here, if Starmer fails to land in no10 he has no one but himself to blame. By all means vote for him, but maybe cut the shaming act for those of us who feel principally uncomfortable at the idea of doing so.
I agree with your insistence on voting, that's why third parties and independent candidates exist.
I think Galloway will be feeling very emboldened today, not because of how he won the by-election but because those theatrics by Sunak were triggered by Galloway’s performance which will have really shaken the Tory party. A left wing, pro-Islam candidate winning so comprehensively isn’t the narrative they want in the press tomorrow.That really was a battering
I was briefly tempted to think that Galloway could even cause a leftward course correction from Starmer. But that would be about as optimistic as expecting the tories to be wiped out at the GE.
you've lost your tiny mind.Hahaha fantastic.
I thought those who obediently support Starmer were against such message politics.
If we're bothered about effective democratic engagement then a smaller Labour margin with someone like the greens gaining vote share would be more productive.
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He's always had the gift of the gab, remember way back where he did a similar demolition job in the US senate.That really was a battering
So to summarize Rushi Sunak's speech. An unelected PM moans about an MP winning an election democratically and say this is a danger on the country's democracy?
Yeah but that’s a fallacy. We live in a mostly binary democracy.
We need two turns of Labour government, and a groundswell of populist drive to drag them left. That will never happen. We are a country of small thinkers and protectionists.
Even when this country is shown a productive way forward, all it takes is a political shock for half the country to shit its pants and lose faith.
Blair’s Labour wasn’t great. But it was doing good things. Browns government would have been more socialist. 2008 comes along… ‘“Labour wrecked the economy as always. Vote Tory”… and people buy it.
It will forever be that way in this country. I just wish people would quit pretending that it’s by accident and not design. We have a once in a hundred years chance to destroy the Tories. Let Reform have the 1 in 5 racists we have created. Vote for the largest anti-Tory majority in your constituency. If every single person in the country did that, the Tories might never come back.
But people are focused on why the Starmer left isn’t left enough. It’s why we always fecking lose. There are gay immigrant tories with transgender kids that will still vote blue, simply through obligation. Yet the left shits its pants because a daily mail headline puts ‘Labour MP seeks to privatise’ on the front page, despite the fact it never happened.
We are broken as a country, We need to just fecking vote for the national interest. Not our niche idea of what leftism looks like.
Why wouldn't they? Brown went into the 2010 election saying the solution was being tougher on benefits and making spending cuts. Darling wanted to cut deeper than Thatcher.
If the opposition and government are both saying the same things, why wouldn't the voters believe them?
They won't need to, Starmer will be implementing all their policies anyway.
Still, you'll be tutting whilst guaranteeing him your support, so he won't have it all his own way.