Max Verstappening the superbru championship are we
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Sadly not, currently 3rd - someone in the McLaren league must be Maxing it though - 21 points with 8 correct picks
Says who?
This level of driving hasn't been on display since forever, there hasn't been driver in long time who drove that flawlesly even when they had the car who lapped other drivers for three laps.
The how is called Newey.
Does he need them?
There is literally no competition for him. It's easy mode and the only other championship was won by cheating. Last season Perez finished 2nd in the championship and he was dogshit for most of it. It tells you everything.Says who?
This level of driving hasn't been on display since forever, there hasn't been driver in long time who drove that flawlesly even when they had the car who lapped other drivers for three laps.
Everybody is a homer in sports. History will truly cement legacy for Lewis and Max alike. In the words of Toto: Formula 1 is a meritocracy.
Any racing driver on the planet would rather have Max's first 3 championships than Lewis' last 3.
You mean unlike seasons before when Hamilton was winning when competition was much better:
Still think it’s weird though that RB carved 2 holes in the top of their cars before the final practice. It might suggest future issues at other races in hotter conditions.
Perhaps, but the vast majority of races are *not* in hot conditions.
What a boring sport
Russell said after the race they had to drop back about 4 tenths a lap during the race early on so maybe some optimism they can better elsewhere and fix the issue.
Sainz seemed to have a strong end of last season and still driving very well.
Sainz seemed to have a strong end of last season and still driving very well.
There is a reason nobody thunks Lewis is the greatest ever despite having all the records.
Everybody is a homer in sports. History will truly cement legacy for Lewis and Max alike. In the words of Toto: Formula 1 is a meritocracy.
The obvious difference being that Ferrari were capable of beating the Mercedes in those two seasons after Rosberg retired and had a multiple time world champion driving it. Max has nothing like that kind of competition right now in terms of competitor cars. In fact, I’d be very confident in most of the top drivers being able to win a title in that car last season.
He’s clearly incredible, so it’s not like I’m saying he doesn’t deserve to be winning titles, but until he manages to fight on a fairly even playing field and come out on top (fairly), it will be used as a stick to beat him with.
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lets see hamilton had championship battles for the title with Alonso, Rosberg, Vettel and Max.
Max had had one champioship battle with hamilton in 2021 and thats it.
its like being in primary school on this forum
You think primary school kids are this bad?
Absolutely not, they are far more well rounded then the "adults" on here and what they think about anything
Boring as anything, I love racing but I hate this joke of a series. Is there anything else worth watching instead? I have seen some indycar and formula e which I enjoyed but is now behind a paywall
100% disagree, OK Max won with ease today, but the racing down the grid was good, there was plenty of action and overtakes.
Fixate on Max and yes it boring, there is so much more than Max.
yeap totally agree
what utter crock of shit
I think Max is incredibly good, and even after his first win in Torro Rosso if I bet I'd have chucked some money on him to be world champion one day
However the car is that good, I think to be truly considered one of the greats, for me I want to see a driver of equal capability (a younger Lewis or younger Alonso for example) in the 2nd RB - if he then wins the title you can say that. Perez is too far off to challenge him.
What would happen if he had someone fighting him every race? The only time we've properly seen this was the season of his first championship, with Lewis
However the car is that good, I think to be truly considered one of the greats, for me I want to see a driver of equal capability (a younger Lewis or younger Alonso for example) in the 2nd RB - if he then wins the title you can say that. Perez is too far off to challenge him.
What would happen if he had someone fighting him every race? The only time we've properly seen this was the season of his first championship, with Lewis
And lost to Rosberg, lost the title to Kimi when he tied with Alonso and lost to Max.
at the Ricciardo and Yuki incident after the chequered flag. Yuki really has such a short fuse.Racing down the grid was ok at best and when the same guy wins for months on end it's not ideal. With reliability and the car advantage (and ability advantage over his team mate) this is very dull.
I've stopped watching F1 in previous shit era's of domination (ferrari, red bull and Merc) and I probably will this year too.
Yeah he sort of threw away sympathy people rightly had for him there. Doing his best to make sure he will never be in the main team (not that he ever will be anyway).
I did not see that when it happen, you can understand Yuki's frustration, having to let Ricciardo pass, but FFS that was a stupid move.
Yeh exactly, any sliver of chance he had is gone now for sure.
Yep completely understand the frustration, but wait till you get back to the pits and bring it up in the debrief. It's the kind of thing a rookie would do, but this is his 4th season. Incredibly stupid.
It really is not. Maybe for two-three teams. The rest, who need money, have the Strolls, Mazepins, Zhous, Latifis, etc. Unless you think they actually deserved to be there on merit.
Everybody is a homer in sports. History will truly cement legacy for Lewis and Max alike. In the words of Toto: Formula 1 is a meritocracy.
Wait Yuki divebombed him after the flag?
Hah what a stupid way to torpedo your chance of driving the RB21
Hah what a stupid way to torpedo your chance of driving the RB21
I missed that. I thought he had grown up. He wont last one week in the main team with that infantile attitude.
Jos Verstappen's quotes about Horner are quite spicy and basically confirm multiple things that were already close to that anyway: the power struggle is indeed real, and Jos is almost guaranteed to be the one to leak a bunch of Horner stuff to the Dutch journo. Add to that that Toto and Jos were seen chatting and Toto apparently saying never say never or something to a question whether Max would drive for Merc after and the spice is officially off the charts
I swear F1 world just loves creating drama.
I swear F1 world just loves creating drama.
RB should be an easy choice for Sainz next year - He’d be more competitive than Perez as well.
Most of Hamilton's titles were easy win, apart from one or two in which he fought with Kimi, Max(which further proofs how good Max is) and Rosberg(again, not exactly doing him favour). I don't remember him winning against Alonso, or am I missing something?
I don't see how losing the championships you mentioned is the argument for Hamilton here? I am sure Max lost few already.
Max is young, he will have his battles, he started his career by winning the championship against one of greatest drivers of all times in arguable weaker car, when he is 35 or 38 he will probably have won tightwr championships too.
It's actually emabrassing to look at points standings 2010-2021 and undermine Verstappen success while at the same time praising Hamilton.
I don't mind people praising Hamilton, he's won his titles fairly, it's not his fault he's had one of most dominant cars ever. But to do it while saying stuff like Verstappen titles will not earn him legacy is mind boggling, it simply doesn't go one without the other.
I don't mind people praising Hamilton, he's won his titles fairly, it's not his fault he's had one of most dominant cars ever. But to do it while saying stuff like Verstappen titles will not earn him legacy is mind boggling, it simply doesn't go one without the other.
The title at McLaren…?
Anyway, I hate this debate. You don’t need to criticise the other driver to praise the other one. Both are generational talents in my book, and the one you think is better is generally the one you prefer.
They both lost it against Kimi?
I agree with the second part, for me Hamilton is still easily the better driver since he's done it over longer period though.
I’m talking about 2008 sorry got confused. But in 2007 as a rookie to tie with Alonso who is still widely regarded as one of the best on the grid is some achievement.
I’d agree on your second point. Being the best isn’t just about career length but it’s the consistency of success. Even if we say both these guys have had it easy with car and competition, there’s still something to be said about a continued burning desire and hunger to do it over and over again.
Max is a generational talent. Thats a fact. Regardless of whether you think his first title was handed to him or not. Where he lists in the GOAT pecking order is to be seen though.