I mean its essentially a protest vote. I don't think the people of Rochdale expect the outcome of their town's byelection to change the narrative in Gaza, but rather to send a message of discontent towards Keir Starmer and the current iteration of the Labour party, and perhaps a warning of how Starmer shouldn't take their vote for granted. I think Labour's candidate would have quite likely lost even if the whole anti-semitism scandal and consequent disowning of him by the party hadn't occurred. Weeks prior to that he was being booed pretty much every-time he was out canvassing.
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Thanks, will look into this, but from what I remember she wasn't eligible for PIP.
So, it is 'virtue signalling' to Labour then?
So, why did Labour choose that candidate in the first place if he was so disliked?
Perhaps this will help Starmer get a grip on the candidate selection processes in places like Rochdale, before the GE...a shot across his bows, in that sense then?
I suspect many people just voted with their hearts rather than their heads, but let's hope for Rochdale's sake, the long term damage done via GG's election is minimal. The town has enough problems already without uniting the wrath of both major party leaders against its newly elected MP.
Especially since GG is not someone to 'walk quietly and carry a big stick" is he?
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How about blaming the political elite and parties instead of blaming the voters. This is what democracy is all about. Those votes should not be taking for granted and should be earned.
Who else do we blame, its us who elect them?
You are right, votes should not be taken for granted, but the vast majority are, it's the swing voters or GE only voters who will choose the next government, I suspect that's who Starmer in particular is after with his cards close to his chest, that is until Rishi fires the GE starting gun.
Ummm...yes?
Rishi Sunak believes Palestinian marches are now hate marches and being controlled by 'extremists' (note - they can't define what they mean other than parroting Islamophobic dog whistles).
This is the same claim parroted by our former Home Sec, who also called it a 'hate march'.
We also have Lee Anderson who claims that the Mayor of London is now controlled by Islamists, and refuses to apologise.
I mean, we have politicians in very powerful and influential positions coming out with deep state idiocy, and alienating and demonising British Muslims. Say what you want about George Galloway, but if you have a problem with him and his covid conspiracy theories, then you should really be holding the Tory party to a higher degree of responsibility.
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Just like what I said, they take people's vote for granted. You either vote for us or blame yourself, how about you fecking work for the vote.
The same political class and media have been banging on for years about how the left needed to listen and chase voters. The minute they took charge suddenly it's about blaming the voters instead.
They're all a bunch of hypocrites.
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God bless the people of Rochdale. Aaron Bushnell sacrificing his young life probably won't stop the Gaza massacre either. But he did something. So did the Rochdaleans.
Rest in power Aaron Bushnell.
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, FFS. He won actual votes in an actual election. He got his arse handed to him in an interview, and he is still crying about it. For how long this meltdown will continue?Id bet the mortgage I'm unable to apply for he's not winning his seat come general election.Tweet
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It does not matter what you bet on the next elections. He already won this By election and the donkeys in the media and the other parties must sit down and understand why did he win it and try to find a solution to get these votes back instead of one day blaming the voters, and the other day calling GG names.
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Well he won with half the amount of votes needed in labours win in 2019, and less than 2nd place too.
Obviously voter turn out is less for a by-election, but its quite obvious he won on a populis platform, when labour didn't really have a candidate, they withdraw all support, and the tories were never going to win.
Of course not. They only blame them for voting for him.
I understand your reasoning, but all you are saying is hypotheticals. How do you know he will not have the same populis come the GE.
Or the argument is that the party who destroyed everything to such an extent that they’re beyond repair (barring massive economic revolution) shouldn’t be allowed to keep the proverbial keys.
Galloway is a narcissist. He'll fit right in.
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I’ll never forgive Sophie for her “clear blue water” tweets. Got completely exposed with that one by some amateur Truss spad.
Because it's not hard to deduce that come general election time, under a higher turn out with an actual labour candidate, the votes he got will be split.
You add together what Galloway got and the Tory candidate and you get approximately what the tories got in Rochdale in the last general election. You stick an actually labour candidate in, they're probably winning.
To be fair, as we saw in 2019, Jon keeps his actual thoughts to Guido Fawkes who have exclusive rights to what he actually thinks.
I hadn't heard his views on raping women in their sleep, and his rhetoric about asylum seekers until this week. I'm astonished supposedly left wing people are dabbing on Labour about him winning
What was this? You have me intrigued.
She's actually really improved now and tends to be one of the better ones.
Oh because Starmer is a Tory hur dur hur
Absolutely zero chance it is coincidence. She receives talking points directly from the Tory comms team and echos them without question. The Truss team just fecked them over by sending them all such a distinct phrase to repeat.
Client journalism at its worst.
What is someone who thinks if a woman consents to sex that consent extends to the next morning while they sleep?
What is someone who claims asylum seekers are being put up in 3 star hotels?
Not to mention his support of 'Coach Red Pill' Gonzalo Lira, a spy for Russia living in Ukraine, who was basically Andrew Tate v1.0 saying that women should be treated like dogs
Oh and he also adopts the language of transphobes by claiming to 'know what a woman is '
Etc etc
He's a piece of shit who uses Muslim communities to make as much money as possible by getting elected. He does zero for those communities, but makes sure he is as litigious as possible because it's another great money maker.
Alas he's now on the MP salary, he'll be on RTE, he'll do the bear minimum and that'll be that.
Personality politics, all it ever is. Like Big Brother without the fake pot plants.
Hibernate in the winter then eat lots of salmon when he wakes up?
It's fecking shocking that people of the left are treating this as a win. Corbyn is never getting into bed with this cnut but you have people in this thread actually hoping for it.
Out of all the despicable people in British politics, only Galloway is calling a spade a spade. Regardless of his motivation for doing so and his past. If any other despicable MP did the same (and kept his/her job) we wouldn't have to take this guy's side. But each and every one of them is quiet, or worse.
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Tories committing scorched earth and economic sabotage. I wish the worst on these people.
And she's still one of the better presenters. Shows you how bad the pool is.
Absolutely zero chance it is coincidence. She receives talking points directly from the Tory comms team and echos them without question. The Truss team just fecked them over by sending them all such a distinct phrase to repeat.
Client journalism at its worst.
It's ok, London is going to be the new Silicon Valley. You'll have to mortgage your house for a coffee here too.
They are genuinely evil. There is no other explanation.
Starmer repeating the utter shite about 'the national credit card being maxed out'
Don't worry, it'll turn out not to be when they need to renew Trident.
Don't worry, it'll turn out not to be when they need to renew Trident.