Jadon Sancho Borussia Dortmund loan watch (Has ended ten Hag)

andersj

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It’s not , he’s done feck all since his debut goal
95th percentile for completed passes in the final third, 93rd for completed passes in the penalty box. 97th for progressive passes. 99th for progressive carrying distance with the ball. 93rd for carrying into the penalty area. 99th for dispossessed, despite having the ball more than most in attacking third and penalty area (87th and 75th percentile). Also 87th for expected assists.

For a player who came back after not training for four months those numbers make you sit up and take notice.
 

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95th percentile for completed passes in the final third, 93rd for completed passes in the penalty box. 97th for progressive passes. 99th for progressive carrying distance with the ball. 93rd for carrying into the penalty area. 99th for dispossessed, despite having the ball more than most in attacking third and penalty area (87th and 75th percentile). Also 87th for expected assists.

For a player who came back after not training for four months those numbers make you sit up and take notice.
Ya I’m sure Madrid will be all over him in the summer with those percentile stats. I’ll give you a stat he’s a cnut and no major club will think about signing him after what he did.dortmund will send him back and say thanks but no thanks
 

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It's good that he's doing better now, makes it easier to sell him in the summer and recoup some fees. Some players are just better in other environments/clubs, never suitable for United, and Sancho is definitely one of them.
 

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Ya I’m sure Madrid will be all over him in the summer with those percentile stats. I’ll give you a stat he’s a cnut and no major club will think about signing him after what he did.dortmund will send him back and say thanks but no thanks
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He scored a goal, big deal, does that make him a World beater now?

He scored some goals for United too and we thought maybe he'd sorted himself out but how long did that last?

If he has one or two decent performances for Dortmund between now and the end of the season, perhaps we can con them into taking him off our hands.
 

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95th percentile for completed passes in the final third, 93rd for completed passes in the penalty box. 97th for progressive passes. 99th for progressive carrying distance with the ball. 93rd for carrying into the penalty area. 99th for dispossessed, despite having the ball more than most in attacking third and penalty area (87th and 75th percentile). Also 87th for expected assists.

For a player who came back after not training for four months those numbers make you sit up and take notice.
How did it go with Nick Powell, btw, since you're the expert?
 

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But why is he lazy for us? We have a bad reputation for our players being lazy and arrogant in recent years, so why focus on him?

Wasn't a good idea for our manager to say what he did either.
He was lazy yesterday. Did some really good stuff on the ball. I think he probably is just not a warrior type of guy/player, but I'd be fine with bringing him back and just spending our money on the other needs. If Rashford goes, in particular, you then need to sign 2 wingers, so signing one and bringing back Sancho is probably easier.
 

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Sancho and Depay showing up on the big stage. Why does everyone at United get ruined
Was Depay ever good? He floated around a fair bit without doing anything of note for about 7 years now. No idea what he's up to this season.

There is something to be said about the personality it takes to succeed at United and us ruining players. If you go into a well oiled machine (like Gakpo with Liverpool) on a lowish transfer fee, the expectations can be managed. e.g., if Gakpo came to United at the time, I'm convinced he'd be in the same bracket as guys like Martial, Depay and Sancho.

I have a lot of admiration for guys like Bruno, Onana and Maguire for this.
 

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Sounds like some of the graduate recruits where I work.
They're everywhere mate, I know fully grown men who are still angry at the world for self inflicted issues that they could solve if they just reflected on they're own behaviour. Too difficult for some it seems, but nice to know it extends to millionaire footballers also.
 

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You answered your own question: mentality.

You can't be insecure or mentally be a child and play for United. Not everyone has the ability to reflect and grow, some need to blame everyone else for their issues.
Sancho on his performances after his first goal since his return:

The attacker had recently been in a slump, but he managed to break free with his first goal since his return against Werder Bremen. However, he's not entirely satisfied. "I'm disappointed in myself and my performance today," Sancho said about his appearance against Werder. Because: "I could have played much better and contributed more."

The high expectations, which also prevailed around the Westfalenstadion in the wake of his return, are something he wants to live up to again, emphasized the professional. "I can understand if the fans are upset with me in recent weeks because I haven't been scoring and contributing as much," Sancho continued.
 

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Was Depay ever good? He floated around a fair bit without doing anything of note for about 7 years now. No idea what he's up to this season.

There is something to be said about the personality it takes to succeed at United and us ruining players. If you go into a well oiled machine (like Gakpo with Liverpool) on a lowish transfer fee, the expectations can be managed. e.g., if Gakpo came to United at the time, I'm convinced he'd be in the same bracket as guys like Martial, Depay and Sancho.

I have a lot of admiration for guys like Bruno, Onana and Maguire for this.
100% agree with this. Particularly with regards to Maguire.
 

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There were plenty of stories about him preferring to be a big fish in a small pond ages ago, it really isn’t very surprising that he loves playing at Dortmund so much.. some players just don’t have the right mindset for the premier league
 

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He was lazy yesterday. Did some really good stuff on the ball. I think he probably is just not a warrior type of guy/player, but I'd be fine with bringing him back and just spending our money on the other needs. If Rashford goes, in particular, you then need to sign 2 wingers, so signing one and bringing back Sancho is probably easier.
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For me Sancho is one of the biggest reasons we should stick with Ten Hag. If he goes players like Sancho and Rashford get another chance to “prove” themselves under a new manager. I’d rather we just cut our losses and bin players off like this. I’m done defending talented but ultimately useless players. The amount of energy I spent over the years defending Pogba and Martial and Sancho doesn’t even have anywhere near the same talent to even be bothered about. I hope regardless of the managerial situation he’s on the block.
 

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It’s not an apology or a reflection is you say “I’m sorry about this thing, but those guys are the cause of it”
Well it's at least interesting to note that he seems to have a realistic view of his current performance level, considering that his falling out with EtH started with comments about performance. Which supports the suspicion that there actually was more to the whole story than just training performances (disclaimer: Not saying that anything about those other reasons was wrong, if they existed!)
 

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It’s not an apology or a reflection is you say “I’m sorry about this thing, but those guys are the cause of it”
It is definitely self reflection when he acknowledges he didn't play well despite his goal. Where did you even get this from? I was curious what exactly he said about United but couldn't find anything recent which you could have referred to.
 

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His performance would have been positive if he was a 10 million young talent, making his first steps in big football.

however he costs a fortune and earns millions each month. Getting paid like a super footballer.
He is not.