I was hoping he would at least come out swinging.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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He's our Roy Hodgson
Agree
You’ve been dishing it out all season with OTT posts like the one below so just take it on the chin now that you’ve been proven wrong.
In real time it looks like a penalty, slow motion replays never give the right angle or interpretation of the impact of the contact. But he gets wring side, falls/slips and clips him from behind, it's a penalty.
He should have dragged him down on the wing.
Lets be honest, they are usually wrong. It is just that not many people have to time or desire to scroll back to find some knee jerk reactions and tell them that they are wrong
But he's told you already, he doesn't want to admit he was wrong. I mean, he doesn't want to get into a circular debate (where he admits he was wrong).
We did the same against Brentford, once bitten!
Tough to see anything but the 'sack on the cheap when CL is mathematically impossible' routine playing out at this stage.
I don't even believe how we can have such obvious problems and he just hasn't changed anything about the way we play all season. That Wolves game has essentially played out 30 times, give or take the luck we had in that match.
I don't even believe how we can have such obvious problems and he just hasn't changed anything about the way we play all season. That Wolves game has essentially played out 30 times, give or take the luck we had in that match.
Must be the Dutch weed
You’ve been militant about the injuries and giving Ten Hag more time in the face of a mountain of data and our performances for months now. You decide today you’ve had enough of it and want to backtrack on everything you said because you’ve run out of patience all of a sudden.
I’m not going to give you shit for it mate, but you must appreciate that other people are because they’re tired of the bollocks that has been spouted in his defence.
It’s terrible, he’s been absolutely terrible, he deserves to go and has done for some time. Personally I’m glad you’re finally of that opinion because it means he’s definitely finished if the excuses aren’t washing anymore.
Which players are you referring to? The team that started today was:
Onana - EtH
Dalot - Mourinho
Maguire - Ole
Varane - Ole
Bissaka - Ole
Casemiro - EtH
Mainoo - EtH
B. Fernandes - Ole
Garnacho - Ragnick
Hojlund - EtH
Antony - EtH
and the subs were:
Mount - EtH
Rashford - LvG
Mctominay - Mourinho
Kwambala - EtH
Evans - EtH
He's got to go. Simple game management,
He's got to go, simple game management. He hasn't got a clue
It would be negligent to keep him into next season now. There's no green shoots of positivity. I don't see any hope or reason to give him more time. He's flopped.
We can only dream
Maybe a manager bounce will see us in 6th position
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Slow motion replays are at the same angle as the real time views because they're from the same cameras.
Lots of things look like a penalty in real time, it's only in slow motion replays that you can see the details.
I'm not saying it was great defending, I'm saying it wasn't a penalty.
Pressing reset? What are we going back to? We’re rock bottom. Press reset, press fecking eject, press delete. Purge the manager and get someone else in.
In general, yes. The coaching overall isn’t working, whether it’s down to the players or coach is basically irrelevant at this point, the manager will go. Ten Hag was known as a very good coach previously, so I don’t have high hopes for whoever comes in. The players don’t seem to be able to do what he wants, I don’t believe that somehow he is asking the impossible.
I don't see this happening, it might, but I'd be surprised and shocked if its at the top level.
We were curbstomped by City a few months before that, 6-3 was an extremely flattering result. Could have been way worse if City didn`t stop playing around the hourmark after having scored their 6th goal.
We were played off the pitch by Brentford, losing 4-0.
We lost in EL to a very beatable Sevilla side.
Brighton played us off the pitch as well, lost both games iirc
We had loads of games where we didn`t play that well, but we managed to grind out results a bit more often.
”Everything seemed positive” is being extremely kind to Erik.
This feckin season has been a nightmare from start to finish, there have been loads of time i have felt that he just has to go, we just have to try something. But nah, here he is, still. I hope you are correct but i am not holding my breath.
He's not a top manager and never has been. Those saying he'll thrive at another club are nothing short of delusional.
Terrible game management and some woeful substitutions. He threw away the result.
Terrible game management and some woeful substitutions. He threw away the result.
Yes, he certainly doesn't follow the mantra he preaches.
I hope he goes now as ultimately I'm not sure who will come in and if they will be better, but I'm pretty sure ETH will never get us beyond challenging for top 4 regardless of structure and resources.
Hope we can tempt Nagelsman. No doubt we will move on this slowly and be left with either Potter or Southgate.
Said it last week, honestly, I can't stand Southgate, but I doubt we'd look much worse under him than this clueless shite.
The problem is that one or two injuries to a couple of players and our guy panics big time. He starts mismanaging the rest of the squad, rushing people back from injury, leading to more injuries for everyone.
It's a death spiral
At the point I've stopped listening to his post match interviews/conferences. It's like he wrote the script before the match was played.
I feel Ole could do a job on Pep with current players. Bring him in to win the cup!
This is all apart of some master plan though.
These are the quotes that really deflate me. He genuinely sees no wrong in how we play every game, and these performances, in his eyes, constitute “domination”. I don’t know how we can progress under this philosophy of stubbornness.
Another antithetical sentence, if the club destroys managers how can Eth win when moving elsewhere? Assess the context of his management, he did well in a very limited competitive environment and the his best in Europe was a UCL semi-final. Poch got to a UCL final and had Spurs regularly in top four for consecutive seasons and he doesn't have the pedigree to take United forward. This is Erik's judgement at an elite club, this idea he's a shell of himself is nonsensical.
His whole team set up is so chaotic that even if we line up with prime Maldini, Nesta at the back with prime Davids and Redondo to protect them we would still concede 25 plus shots on goal.
Tbf I'm happy for half the ETH ones to go and all the non- (bar Garnacho).
I don’t blame ETH for everything that has gone wrong this season. Injuries have had a huge impact and certain individuals have let the team massively. But the tactics we are employing weekly are just reckless and no way to consistently get results. We ship chances for fun and we are begging to get a trouncing somewhere.
I don’t know what INEOS wants to do at this stage. This is their project and they will want their man in charge; this is their excuse to do just that. However, I am still looking at the managerial field this summer and am not entirely sure who replaces ETH.
I don’t know what INEOS wants to do at this stage. This is their project and they will want their man in charge; this is their excuse to do just that. However, I am still looking at the managerial field this summer and am not entirely sure who replaces ETH.
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Very worrying. To put in context what this looks like compared to the rest of the PL
Ten Hag has been terrible this season, but I'd put my last pound on Southgate or Potter been equally as bad, so why do we want to start the process all over again with either of them?
If we start getting linked with anyone of note then I'll maybe get on board, until then I'd rather just stick with what we've got and hope the new setup makes a difference.
He also said we played brilliantly. The guy is deluded or spinning. Either way he needs to feck off
This is beyond joke
what an utter pisstake.Nothing about our football is sustainable or looks well trained or thought out. I can't believe after two years this is where we're at, and still look this poor at the basics.
Not just annoying but condescending, making out they know more about football, that one guy I can’t think of his username, something like don’tmesswith has been insufferable. Now they start changing their mind and want to forget all that they said about them knowing more and having a fit team will change it all