He joined them last summer, didn't he?
Jason Wilcox - New technical director
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They were already relegated. He was effectively tasked with getting them back up, which he won’t now see through.
United are hiring him based on his work for city rather than Southampton anyway. Think they’d still be hiring him if he’d have been unemployed the last 10 months since leaving city
He didn't arrive at Southampton until this summer just gone, and it wasn't announced that he was going there until January 2023.
I don’t think he’ll be bringing his Southampton targets list to United, we should be okay.
Let's hope Wilcox doesn't sign players that will relegate us next season
Do we need to sign anyone to get relegated?
Southgate?Do we need to sign anyone to get relegated?
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Yes before his appointment was announced Southampton raided City academy seems suspiciously related.
Last season they signed Gavin Bazunu, Romeo Lavia, Samuel Edozie, and Juan Larios all from Man City academy and this season they've signed Shea Charles from City Academy as well as Taylor Harwood-Bellis who joined on loan.
Completely agree. I would be ok if we can get 2 CBs and 2 MF with the profile you mention even if we cant make any attacking signing. We been so easily to play against because we have so much space between midfield and defense and our defense and those areas lacks so much athleticism, pace, and power to win duels. We need to make a strong flundation first and foremost so with new CBs and MFs we can shore up that areas and at least the losing points will turn to draws.
I think anything less than 2 CBs and 1 LB is going to be bad considering there some good free agents and young players around. Even Midfield has some good free agents or palyer on their last year contract that we could get on relatively good fees.
Hopefully, the new personnels that we got could get things running faster than the glazers.
Start in near future... 2028. Its not that far away. And Ashworth a year later. Im sure we will all still be here in 5 years.
There are a fair few ex city players doing well in the league now. A few of the above will still have a lot of potential and they made a killing on Lavia. It’s obviously not the most imaginative recruitment from an ex City employee especially seeing as Southampton are supposed to have a good academy themselves. Anyway as long as they don’t do that here!
Interesting to hear Hall say on Kandola's show the focus will be on defence and attack,however did say he thinks McTominay and Casemiro will go in the summer. Therefore we need to bring in replacements for them or gonna be too short in that area
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Not only those three, but Donny & Hannibal are likely to be removed from the Midfield pool of options too, so if all 5 of those do move on, it would leave us with only Bruno, Mount, Mainoo & McTominay...!
No one is buying Donny. He's staying until end of contract I think.
Yep or he will be released if it’s cheaper
I expect Donny to go but we're going to make a huuuuge loss on him.
Can see him going for under 5 million.
Can see him going for under 5 million.
Didn't they sign a City member of staff the season before Wilcox? Shields or something
Given how little he plays and the contract he is on, could "sell" him on a free even.
They did yes
Great if true but like i said, even if we couldnt make any attack signings, its good for me if we change our defence and midfield. Our defense and midfields not match on what we wanna play. When we look at other top teams or emerging teams they all have athleticism, pace, power, along with technical players while we looks so unfit. We seems to not win any duels on MF and Defence areas enough to thwart dangers and that make our attacks impotent and looks disjointed because they have to rush back to defend. Shore up these 2 areas first and then wait to add one attack on winter maket or going full force next one (these only if we are
hamstrung by the FFP things ofcourse)
If he can finally sell our deadwood’s to Southampton, that will be great for a start.
Undisclosed fee (nada).
We've already lost the biggest amount of the money on him, there's only 7million (I'm assuming he hasn't triggered whatever addon bonus' were in the contract) worth of cost left in his contract in the summer. Once you factor not having to pay his wages for another year (~6.5mil) for not playing very much football, even under 5m would produce a marginal saving.
Is he going to have to stop presenting MOTD2 when he joins us?
Hopefully he has a midas touch.
This seems a bit of a strange appointment from the outside looking in. Unlike Ashworth, theres nothing on his CV that particularly stands out & his stint at Southampton looks underwhelming at best.
I’m guessing this is Berrada’s influence and he knows him from his City days? Which in that case I guess we just have to trust he knows what he’s doing!
I’m guessing this is Berrada’s influence and he knows him from his City days? Which in that case I guess we just have to trust he knows what he’s doing!
Nope. We need to stop putting all the responsibility onto single individuals. No more it’s all Woodward/Arnolds fault, no more it’s all Murtoughs fault, no more it’s all the managers fault and no more giving people too much responsibility, too wide a remit and putting them out of their depth/hanging them out to dry.
The magic will be made in the whole structure built from specialists, focused on there own part of the process all working toward the same end goal. It will take Berrarda, Ashworth, Wilcox, and who ever else is appointed to MUGA.
That would imply that we’re even in for Todibo, just because the papers say we are doesn’t mean we are just like David Gill wasn’t being seen with Brailsford because he was about to be given the job Berrada was given just a couple of weeks later.
Over the past few months we’ve been linked to Silva, Diomande, Todibo, Branthwaite, Koch, De Ligt, Bremer, Anselmino, Kilman, Guehi, Yoro and Dragusin and that’s just what I remember off the top of my head so reality is no one knows who were after as it’s likely we’re keeping it close to our chest so we’re not fleeced or anyone else go in for who we may be after.
I think INEOS intend to, after patching up the first team in the first couple of seasons, adopt a strategy where they focus more on young signings then use their other clubs to give them game time in preparation for United. He was a key player in City's academy so you would expect he knows the market for players in the 16 to 20 age bracket.
It's only this summer where Ashworth and the Head of Recruitment are still to be appointed where he will take a lead role. Even if he does, for now, Ashworth will have some input albeit unofficially.
You are making way too many extravagant assumptions here. I want him to have " the midas touch" at his designated job, to Manchester United's benefit.
This does not necessarily equate:
to not desiring the system to be of peak competence.
wanting things to be "his sole responsibility".
I don't understand it would take a team effort for the entire front office recruited to succeed.
So your mini rant is strange indeed.. ..
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You seem to be assuming that because I replied to your post my ‘mini rant’ was aimed at you. It wasn’t. Stand down soldier.
You know you ACTUALLY quoted me, right?You seem to be assuming that because I replied to your post my ‘mini rant’ was aimed at you. It wasn’t. Stand down soldier.
That would be the ‘replying to your comment’ that I mentioned.You know you ACTUALLY quoted me, right?
Chappers in one of us, isn't he? Probably has an account on the Caf...
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Yes! Hope we can get started on signings soon now.
Finally we get one over the line!