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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...fe-face-brexit-visa-bill-to-return-home-to-uk
Briton and French wife face £11,000 Brexit visa bill to return home to UK
Stephen Kaye has Parkinson’s but couple blocked from Britain despite having paid taxes there
On that subject. Could have been me but...
You'd have to pay me a billion quid to return and I still wouldn't go.
Briton and French wife face £11,000 Brexit visa bill to return home to UK
Stephen Kaye has Parkinson’s but couple blocked from Britain despite having paid taxes there
On that subject. Could have been me but...
You'd have to pay me a billion quid to return and I still wouldn't go.
For a billion I kiss farage ass and I would live in Inverness
Some people have probably done that for free.
The girt that keeps on .... erm .... taking.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-business-2bn-and-fuel-inflation-report-finds
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-business-2bn-and-fuel-inflation-report-finds
Eton must be an appalling school. It's just a conveyor belt for uneducated, ignorant buffoons to become politicians.
It always has been.
Yeah, let's not bother checking the food that's coming from a different customs area. The man is an idiot.
The comment section is full of people saying buy British cheese, it's just as good. Suddenly Brexit is about reverting to 1940s food choices and agrarian self-sufficiency policies.
I love that we’ve somehow made Cheese a binary choice. The Uk makes some great cheese.
But the facts are;
- Other cheeses are available and Brexit has made them more expensive.
- British cheese is not that much better that other countries will buy it if costs are higher.
- Places like New Zealand make incredible cheddar (Kapiti Port Wine omg) and the trade agreement we’ve made sees it currently undercutting our most popular and best cheeses on a cost/taste judgement. Not at the bottom mass produced end but at the tasty end 100%.
- Our own cheeses are made more expensive as companies can’t make as much money from exports so have to raise local prices.
And if demand for British cheese goes up because of lack of imports then the price will either go up or there will be need for more immigrants to actually make it or probably both!
You forget the Daily Mail / The Sun 3rd way…
“Price of cheese soars as people on benefits sit home leaving immigrants making Our Cheese while living in council homes that Uk people should be in”
I'm located inn the US these days so don't read/see those outlooks
British cheese is generally better than the American stuff, thankfully Aldi imports some because I love cheese and Alsi is close by
British cheese imported by a German supermarket chain in the USA.I'm located inn the US these days so don't read/see those outlooks
British cheese is generally better than the American stuff, thankfully Aldi imports some because I love cheese and Alsi is close by
Cheddar's made all over the world now.
A lot of Heinz products that used to be made in the UK are now made in the Netherlands. So I can buy HP sauce with a picture of the Houses of Parliament on it in a French supermarket without all the fuss and costs of importing it making it more expensive for UK customers.
The irony of Brexit.
Don't tend to buy cheddar, but stuff like double Gloucester, Wensleydale, blue Stilton and such like, most supermarkets here carry Brie, Gouda, Edam, Camembert and a number of Italian cheeses, though some are actually made in the US but not all
HP is owned by a French company is it not? Anyway Heinz stuff in the UK is way different to the US stuff which in a lot of cases would be illegal to sell, and beware of Cadbury, the US version is way different to the US version and tastes almost as bad as Hershey!
Lidl are over here now as well, there's not one near me but when I move to SC there's one not to far away
I'm sure Brie is made deliberately to export to the UK - I've never eaten any in France. Much better cheeses to choose from.
HP was bought by Kraft-Heinz and is now made by them in NL.
Cadbury's anywhere now tastes awful - nothing like it used to be back in the day.
We have a Lidl quite close to us.
Before Brexit it was probably the same cheese with the same ingredients and producing methods. It's all bollox
Have to go to an international shop or use Amazon to get HP - Yanks don't do brown sauce
Also treat myself to Ambrosia rice pudding now and again via Amazon, another thing that isn't sold here, mushy peas as well
Well it is famous for a Mess
It's not - he wanted to take control and leave the customs union. These are the consequences he wanted. He just didn't realise what he voted for and still doesn't.
You can buy ‘brown sauce’ in large American cities. Look for ‘Tonkostu sauce’ in any Japanese supermarket or deli. Identical.
You're not making sense, is it the same cheese or not? That was the question.
Probably, it doesn't matter, but now it has to be proved, certified etc like everything else.
Everything has to be traceable and certified if it's moving from one customs area to another.
Goods going from the UK to the EU, it's the same except that the EU have been conducting the inspections , paperwork requirements etc since Brexit happened.
Leaving the Single Market and the Customs Union erects enormous barriers and there's another few years before it's all in place.
This was the UK's choice.
it's all likely to be the same products being exchanged between the EU and UK. The problem is, when you decide to detach yourself from the same rule book, how are you supposed to trust it's ALWAYS the same product? The rules and regulations say how things should be done, what standards are met and what is the punishment for breaching those rules/regs. When you are both accepting the same rules under the same umbrella, you have recourse for when the rules are broken. When parties detach from each other and stop agreeing to the same rules, both sides then need to create rules for their own sides. Enforcing said rules as separate parties inherently creates more regulation jobs of all kinds, thus pricing increases.
If both sides divorce from the same rule book, but you do what Mogg suggest (having no checks), then you country becomes a dumping ground for sub-standard product as companies chase profits. Then that puts further pressure on the EU cheese that kept up normal standards to the UK to either eat the price difference compared to the competition, degrade the quality of the product, or simply lie. So how do you stop that from happening without some kind of rules/regs for importation into the UK and exportation to the EU?
Mogg's argument is not that "regulation is not needed because it's the same product". His argument is that you plebs should just deal with whatever is the cheapest product and take your own health risks.
You are too harsh on these MPs. This isn't what they voted for. I mean, it is exactly that, but you didn't expect them to read the deal did you?
i think people are completely missing what Mogg is saying. He is talking about brexit being the opportunity for the UK to be a dumping ground for cheap, inferior, dangerous products and that these regulations get in the way of that. He's not asking "how did brexit cause this" as some kind of "pie in face" moment. He's annoyed that you lot have decided to check on products coming in at all. 
No, and all these years later they still haven't and still have no idea what was voted for on all sides of the chamber.
Although one of the funniest things was when Labour expected to renegotiate a deal within three months and then present the deal to the public who they expected to understand what was placed in front of them and then have another referendum.
The MP's still don't understand all these years later. Crazy.
Yes. He wants the UK as a dumping ground.i think people are completely missing what Mogg is saying. He is talking about brexit being the opportunity for the UK to be a dumping ground for cheap, inferior, dangerous products and that these regulations get in the way of that. He's not asking "how did brexit cause this" as some kind of "pie in face" moment. He's annoyed that you lot have decided to check on products coming in at all.
This happened years ago while the UK was in the EU - they got into big trouble, mainly importing all sorts of dangerous crap from China.
The forthcoming Freeport saga will be something to behold if that ridiculous scheme gets off the ground.
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Yeah but the end user doesn't give a shit. Nobody visiting the uk from the eu is going to ask a restaurant if their meat is eu certified before ordering. It's only jobsworthy over protectiveness
Nah don't worry about it mate. The cheese is good trust me bro
The end user hasn't had to give a shit because the rules have been in place for so long and have normalised how businesses must act across borders. The idea a regulation is just a tick box on a piece of paper is plainly wrong. And people from the EU coming to the UK will care about the quality of products if you lot become the dumping ground for imitation, harmful, inferior products.
That is why "remainers" have bleated on about the stupidness of brexit for so long. In the end you have to comply with the same rules as trading partners because business wants continuity in trading rules. Brexit took a seamless customs union and imposed needless regulation on the UK to meet those standards.
The reality of brexit is that you took something that wasn't broken, broke it, and then realised you had to rebuild it for yourselves because it actually benefited you. The unfortunate consequence being, to fix it, you're asking everyone else to pay for the repairs whilst people like Mogg stand on the sidelines trying to make things even worse.
But the end user would worry if there was something wrong with the product and there was no traceability - it could have come from the EU or from Outer Mongolia, who knows?
Possibly, or more likely probably not, the Uk will import the same food from outside the EU. The point is neither the UK or the EU is guaranteed that the other's products complies with their regulations because they are not using the same regulations and there is no recourse other than court proceedings or sanctions if something does go wrong. Each party has to treat the other party the same.
The Uk have signed a really bad deal with Australia which effectively allows Australia to do what they like and undercut British farmers. Their produce should have all the certification and tests etc but as it takes weeks or months for the products to reach the destination there is plenty of time to deal with the paperwork.
Shipping to or from the EU takes a day or two and thus there is no time.
Now Uk exporters have tried to ship to Australia but found that the red tape to ship to Australia is horrendous.
But it's not just food. Whatever is exported has to comply with regulations of the country of destination. So wherever the Uk export to, they are not "in control" - if they don't meet the criteria of the country they are exporting to then they can't export to them. And this has to work both ways with no favouritism outside any trade agreement.
Under the Rees-Mogg model, he is a scoundrel and think's he's doing something good for the UK, but he doesn't understand the consequences and is in fact slowly destroying their trade and reputation.
Exactly - or does everyone fancy eating horse meat again?
Really? Would you want your meat to potentially be a way lower standard than before?
No one should need to ask that because it should be a basic requirement for your food to be good quality, and before we shot our selves in the foot had no need to worry.
It's an interesting take on unverified/unchecked imported products, that will probably vary from end user to end user.
Would you mind to be a consumer of unchecked cheese? Meat? Phones? Cars? Airplanes? Dializers?
I don't give a crap where the product is coming from because I got used to be in a society that has regulations, tests and compliance that protects me of any harm. Lift those regulations, stop having checks, start having food poisoning potentially killing people or other problems in other products and you'll see how rapidly people will start checking origins in the labels and ask in restaurants
Moronic take, as usual