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The bolded is true but then we don’t really have any other players other than Casemiro and Eriksen that could do that, and neither of them have any legs for it so then the midfield again just gets bypassed/ran through.
Anyone would be fine next to a prime Ince or Keane.
Mainoo has only half a season of first team experience and played alongside eriksen. Since Liverpool away he has played every single game including two for England (where he was class). He's being mismanaged by Eth out of desperation. He's 19 and will be inconsistent, but it is clear to everyone he's very talented. He's just not capable of covering an entire midfield on his own and badly needs a rest.
He isn't.
What's Mainoo better at? I think he's good but he has a lot more to work on as a player. He's promising but still lacks in key areas, notably his physicality.
Dribbling, passing, vision, composure. Just more naturally talented. At times, Mainoo has been made to look worse than he is due to the poor tactical structure. His teammates haven't done much to help him either.
I only agree he's better at the bolded. The others Wharton is a level above currently for me. Just look at the pass for the third goal. Exceptional.
Physicality for sure, but in terms of actual footballing ability? Come on....
I think so to. Mainoo will be a very good player in time, but I suspect he won’t be the world class midfielder a lot think he will become.
Well yeah he's 18.
Whether he's better overall I cant say as i've seen very little of him, but he did look very good Wharton. That said, its possibly unfair to compare given the circumstances of the club and how dysfunctional we currently are.
He's 19 and Wharton is 20.
I thought this too. And then we added Amrabat for good measure.
19 or 18 it makes no difference.
Yeah? The same can be said of Wharton though so not sure what your point is.
Absolutely the same can be said of Wharton and in fact 99.9% of teenagers.
Think the point is you're trying to be a dick, you might be a mod but looks like you're going fishing to me.
Or perhaps I'm just discussing him in comparison to his peers which is the point of a forum?
Ignored my response which was pretty well reasoned which does suggests maybe you aren't after that.
I agree Wharton is good. But he's also in a much more balanced side in terms of physical and technical profiles around him. Someone like Hughes looked good last night- he's a useful player generally, in a Herrera kind of way - but would probably look desperately average transplanted into this United side, barring other changes. Combination of tactics injuries (to varying degrees) and general squad composition means that this united side has terrible chemistry a lot of the time. Mainoo's game is slightly different to Wharton but stick him in that Palace side with Hughes to do his tackling, proper full-back overlaps, and Olise, Eze & Mateda making runs to the ball and stretching defences, and you'd likely see an 8/10 performance there.
Didn't see it originally. I agree he's talented and looked good for England in those cameos and his start but still think Wharton has impressed me more in his time for Palace and at Blackburn. It would also worry me a tad that he's already in need of resting so much.
That is a fair assessment. I do think individually Wharton has stepped into the side individually with some excellent performances though. To me he is a bit like Gallagher in that he's all over the pitch but he has a better expansive passing range. I actually think he and Mainoo would make an excellent pairing and England should be excited about it. Both should really be called up for the Euros and if it weren't for the cameo by Mainoo for England already I'd have Wharton edging him currently for a starting spot.
It's pretty normal for young players to come in and out of a team. In fact it's recommended for development and to avoid burnout no? He basically went from zero first team football to guaranteed starter for united. That's quite a big jump for a then 18 year old. Not sure it's outrageous after six months straight of football for club and country to need a rest at his age. Especially playing in our fecking team
Would argue he's getting a bit of rest though and not being flogged? He's only played 11 full 90s. Seems to be subbed with roughly 10-20 minutes to go quite often.It's pretty normal for young players to come in and out of a team. In fact it's recommended for development and to avoid burnout no? He basically went from zero first team football to guaranteed starter for united. That's quite a big jump for a then 18 year old. Not sure it's outrageous after six months straight of football for club and country to need a rest at his age. Especially playing in our fecking team
Yeah but he's often asked to cover the midfield alone. He's being badly used in my opinion, being asked to do way too much in a deeply dysfunction team.
That's fair, I expect when he plays with Rice and Bellingham at the Euros it will give a better assessment as to where he is really at.
Yeah, he was fantastic in the friendlies in there. You could see rice played a huge part in that.
