AlexUTD
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Do we not need a striker who scores alot of goals? Im confused why we would be intrested in Morata then
So we'll judge everyone on that? Or are we able to judge every player individually?Pretty sure we said the same about Angel di Maria and that quickly turned ugly, literally.
Milan wanted him but they've dropped out for some reason (possibly too much money). Chelsea have been reported to be interested too.I'm not against signing Morata but I don't see how "nobody else" wants him. Is the context that United are offering him so much more that they're the favorites and no one else can compete? Or is it that we're the only club that feels he's worth what Madrid want for him? Even if we need a striker I'd still like James more than Morata if we're buying from Madrid...
The people with the checkbook care cos what he gets paid affects what other players expect to get paid and what the club can afford to spend on other players. If that continues, you end up with a lot of overpaid average quality players, (which we are already getting there) who you cant offload easily even if you wanted toNobody cares
Nearly all united fans want him to stay. Nobody cares what he gets paid it, effects nothing. It is true everyone is replaceable... but tell me
How are we supposed to build a world class team if we keep selling our best players of which DDG is, no doubt? It sets a precident that we are a stepping stone club, Fcuk that!
Combination of few things I think.I'm not against signing Morata but I don't see how "nobody else" wants him. Is the context that United are offering him so much more that they're the favorites and no one else can compete? Or is it that we're the only club that feels he's worth what Madrid want for him? Even if we need a striker I'd still like James more than Morata if we're buying from Madrid...
That wouldn't be such a bad thing. Don't get me wrong I'd love to keep DDG but if his heart is set on a move and we get a decent offer so be it. As for the other 2, they would improve us no doubt.I've got a sneaky feeling we are going to end up with morata and Rodriguez from Real Madrid with De gea going the other way.
No of course not but the noise coming out of Madrid is that Morata isn't keen on leaving Madrid like Di Maria and we know how that worked out.So we'll judge everyone on that? Or are we able to judge every player individually?
Because Di Maria was a sack of shit doesn't mean every big player will follow.
We're not getting the best players in the world then, but then I suppose we wouldn't be if we were buying cast offs from other clubs.I want players to join this club because they want to, not because their current club wants them gone.
Agree with this. Would love to keep him, but if he wants to go then we must look to get the best deal possible.That wouldn't be such a bad thing. Don't get me wrong I'd love to keep DDG but if his heart is set on a move and we get a decent offer so be it. As for the other 2, they would improve us no doubt.
If that's the case I hope you're not turning your nose at Perisic et al. because those seem to be the players that want to join this club.No of course not but the noise coming out of Madrid is that Morata isn't keen on leaving Madrid like Di Maria and we know how that worked out.
I want players to join this club because they want to, not because their current club wants them gone.
Agree, if Madrid pay up, and don't play silly beggars this time then it should be left up to DDG to decide, all for Morata, not James though, rather get some cash and look elsewhere, or just stick and wait for Greizmann.That wouldn't be such a bad thing. Don't get me wrong I'd love to keep DDG but if his heart is set on a move and we get a decent offer so be it. As for the other 2, they would improve us no doubt.
Nope.If that's the case I hope you're not turning your nose at Perisic et al. because those seem to be the players that want to join this club.
It happens more often than not, I would imagine. After all, it's their profession. They have to go where the money and playtime is, even if they're not 100% sure on going to that club.Nope.
What's wrong with wanting players play for the club who really want to play for us and have that extra bit of quality.. like Pogba for example. If Morata joins because he wants to then great but I can't be the only one who doesn't want players here who think "if I have to join them then fine".
Oh come on Stubbs.Nope.
What's wrong with wanting players play for the club who really want to play for us and have that extra bit of quality.. like Pogba for example. If Morata joins because he wants to then great but I can't be the only one who doesn't want players here who think "if I have to join them then fine".
"Morata isn't a goalscorer" is a lazy mythDo we not need a striker who scores alot of goals? Im confused why we would be intrested in Morata then
wait for Griezmann to do what?Agree, if Madrid pay up, and don't play silly beggars this time then it should be left up to DDG to decide, all for Morata, not James though, rather get some cash and look elsewhere, or just stick and wait for Greizmann.
You can never be certain, but if manage to convince Morata to sign, nothing so far suggest that there will be a problem with his attitude. He doesn't look like "prima donna" type of player who wouldn't give his all on the pitch.No of course not but the noise coming out of Madrid is that Morata isn't keen on leaving Madrid like Di Maria and we know how that worked out.
I want players to join this club because they want to, not because their current club wants them gone.
You can say that about any player that is a youth product of a top team. Will lukaku also run back to Chelsea?Even if he would succeed here, he'd run back to Madrid ASAP if they'd want him as first choice. Just not worth it at all.
I thought you were serious too tbh..That would take the fun out of it
If we don't get Griezmann in this window we should move on from him. It's not everyday clubs are willing to meet substantial buy out clauses and in his case £86mil is alot of money. There's not much point in buying him in January as he won't be eligible to take part in the champions league for us. We'd have to buy him in the summer at possibly a higher fee. When you put numbers together with the length of service in his prime, it's £30 mil per season, compare that to Pogba £80mil, £10/£12 mil per season, its a bit expensive. Morata for £50mil is also £10 mil per season. If we get Rodriguez then the ship's sailed for Griezmann imo.Agree, if Madrid pay up, and don't play silly beggars this time then it should be left up to DDG to decide, all for Morata, not James though, rather get some cash and look elsewhere, or just stick and wait for Greizmann.
Tevez only scored 14 goals in the league in 2007-2008 playing ahead of Ronaldo. That's just what happens in a system where the focus of creating chances is for the man coming off the wing. Morata suffers the same thing."Morata isn't a goalscorer" is a lazy myth
Actually look at his goalscoring record then come back and say it. He's pushing 30 goals this season and was pretty much just bit part. His goalscoring record is quite brilliant and playing regularly in a top team and the focus of attack, he'd be lethal imo. Not good enough to displace Ronaldo is his problem at Madrid which is understandable
MbappéWhy is he leaving, anyway? He seems to have had a decent season and will surely get more and more minutes, with Benzema's gradual decline. They don't have much depth in the position beyond that.
Of course. Didn't see the sense also... He will never lead Madrid attack.Mbappé
I think we should move on from Griezmann too but I don't think being cup tied in Europe should be why. We are miles away from the top sides in Europe, Juve and Bayern might make that excuse for not signing someone but it makes no difference to us. We cannot win the CL next season, we are at least two or three years away just yet imo. for me it's just a matter of pride and dignity. Griezmann rejected us, we must not be seen to go crawling back. He has made his decision. If he wants United but chose to stay with Atletico out of loyalty then he should miss out on what we're building towards. Atletico will only fall another year behind Barcelona and Real Madrid with no Summer transfer window.If we don't get Griezmann in this window we should move on from him. It's not everyday clubs are willing to meet substantial buy out clauses and in his case £86mil is alot of money. There's not much point in buying him in January as he won't be eligible to take part in the champions league for us.
There is no Man United cheque writers in here. SO NOBODY CARES. This is a fact.The people with the checkbook care cos what he gets paid affects what other players expect to get paid and what the club can afford to spend on other players. If that continues, you end up with a lot of overpaid average quality players, (which we are already getting there) who you cant offload easily even if you wanted to
If a player truly wants to leave, there is no point in forcing him to stay.
You build a world class team by do what is best for the club and not just stroke fan egos over a GK. Juve sold Pogba and they still made it to the CL final.
love it, basically my point too!Drop 100M euros on the table for Morata and James, tell them we'll talk about De Gea after, get Morata and James signed up and then pull out that fax machine.
Mbappe would stop him running back.Even if he would succeed here, he'd run back to Madrid ASAP if they'd want him as first choice. Just not worth it at all.
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I did:"Morata isn't a goalscorer" is a lazy myth
Actually look at his goalscoring record then come back and say it. He's pushing 30 goals this season and was pretty much just bit part. His goalscoring record is quite brilliant and playing regularly in a top team and the focus of attack, he'd be lethal imo. Not good enough to displace Ronaldo is his problem at Madrid which is understandable
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15 goals in 26 games with 14 of those being starts really is a horrible recordI did:
http://us.soccerway.com/players/alvaro-morata/103171/
And it is not United class striker stats.If this impresses you then we have 2 very different views on brilliant goalscoring record.
Idk how many times his goalscoring rate in La liga has to be mentioned. At Juventus, he was often used as a winger. He's only 24, with very good all around ability, and he easily has the potential to turn into a 30 goals per season striker if he's given the playing time. He had 20 goals for Real Madrid this season even though he only started 17 matches for them all season.I did:
http://us.soccerway.com/players/alvaro-morata/103171/
And it is not United class striker stats.If this impresses you then we have 2 very different views on brilliant goalscoring record.
Lukaku is no youth product, and Morata has indicated he doesnt want to leave it all and says Madris is his city and town, even preferred Milan above us. Yes, I'll gladly have people with a long term future here.You can say that about any player that is a youth product of a top team. Will lukaku also run back to Chelsea?
So do you think Juve regretted having Pogba for all those seasons and selling him back to us for a boat load of money?
If he is good enough to be first choice at Madrid, then he has likely developed into one of the best players in the world. It is then up to us to make him feel at home here or, if he wants to leave, fleece Madrid for it