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Can't say I'm impressed with that. I'd like to debate his argument thanks.He's been warned and threadbanned.
Can't say I'm impressed with that. I'd like to debate his argument thanks.He's been warned and threadbanned.
He'll be back tomorrow. Gives him a chance to think a bit more.Can't say I'm impressed with that. I'd like to debate his argument thanks.
The best way to make him think, is by making him think.He'll be back tomorrow. Gives him a chance to think a bit more.
Teachers in the US really need to be paid more if you have to deal with all of that.It absolutely looms over us… all of us, from admin to teacher to janitor to student.
We have regular lockdown drills in which they try and trick us / scare us into opening the door or making sound from the rooms… because that is necessary and people always screw up. We have to have matter of fact conversations with kids about what to do if they’re trapped outside the room, about if a shooter starts coming through the door, and I include about how if on a random day a fire alarm goes off unexpectedly, they will not exit the room until I do and we will exit last on our hallway. When I walk down a hallway, I habitually look at every door I pass to the outside to see if it is truly closed and locked. There are over 60 external doors at my school of over 2000 students. These high schoolers will rig the door to not truly shut so they can sneak out and back in. We have to tell them almost weekly to “ignore the door” because at random times a plain clothed sheriffs deputy will come to the school to do security checks and knock on an external door to see if they can get in. Sometimes a student opens it, sometimes they find a rigged door. I have honestly never heard of a time where one came and wasn’t able to get in. Once in, they’ll walk around the school until someone stops them and asks where their ID is. They typically make it between 30-60 minutes.
Sorry for the rant. But yes, it’s ever looming, and yes, we all have it in the backs of our minds. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve stopped dead in my tracks in a crowded hallway at class change because a student suddenly stops walking, puts their book back on the ground and reaches inside it. It’s there like your shadow and it sucks and there’s no amount of “well the statistics say…” that is gonna paper over that.
Anyone who writes something like that isn't doing much thinking anyway.The best way to make him think, is by making him think.
I have to absolutely agree with you - it's a terrible way to further discussion. All it achieves is division.Can't say I'm impressed with that. I'd like to debate his argument thanks.
I agree. We should be able to have on open discussion about wether it is bad or not, if a bunch of children gets shot. Who’s to say who’s on the right side here? Gotta here out both sides, not just the people who don’t want kids to get slaughtered.I have to absolutely agree with you - it's a terrible way to further discussion. All it achieves is division.
And yet folks will say we get paid for being off half the year (we don't, our pay is for 9 months and spread out over 12) and they'll say they don't trust us to teach curriculum to their kids without indoctrinating them to be gay commie space hippies yet will also eventually ask us to add gun toting special forces operator to our teaching credential.Teachers in the US really need to be paid more if you have to deal with all of that.
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That's a great setup as well. Detailing how silly it was trying to by lotto tickets but then easily (and legally) getting a rifle. It's madness.Statistically it is as dangerous to be a teacher/student in the USA as it is to be a cop in the USA. That is absolutely staggering.
For what it's worth, @Solius , I see you catching some flack here for thread banning @Revan but I think you're completely right given his absolutely idiotic, unjustifiable, irrelevant and bad faith arguments. His posts are so bad that they are effectively trolling and even on Twitter I suspect he would be banned for misleading/false information. We shouldn't waste our time lowering the debate to his gormless level when a far more interesting discussion can be had with everyone else who actually has a modicum of common sense/empathy.
You can buy a gun more easily than a car in the USA. Look at this 2 minute video. To anyone with half of a functioning brain-cell it is absolutely insane.
Anyone who argues that this is acceptable is a monster, a complete gowl and an absolute numbskull to boot.
It’s not getting worse everywhere. In other first World countries school shootings simply don’t occur or are extremely extremely rare.The missing point in this Europe vs US dicussion is that it's getting worse everywhere. Also, the political and economic influence the US has in Europe will tend to narrow the gap I think. Random examples: 1) Boris being a Prime Minister. 2) NHS losing investment in favour of deals with privates. 3) Precarious jobs everywhere; 4) Portugal never had a far right politician in our parliament. Now there's 15 in there, from a Trumpist party, the third biggest political force. A bunch of idiots on MTG level. Only 5 years after Trump. Alt-right is ravaging our social networks too. It all gets copied.
Politics are global.
Don’t know what’s worse, the adulation for the kid or the fact that the kid knows how to both chamber a round & pop out a magazine.Tweet
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Absolute state of that. Poor kid probably thinks he’s just doing something ‘cool’
I'm 33 and have no idea how to do that.Don’t know what’s worse, the adulation for the kid or the fact that the kid knows how to both chamber a round & pop out a magazine.
What a twat. So the shooter was able to commit mass murder because he somehow magically knew in advance that the gate would be unlocked and therefore left his house to accomplish this mission? Not because he knew he had weapons so powerful that they can they take out dozens of people in a matter of minutes?Tweet
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I know he’s a figure of fun at this point but it’s staggering how insane he sounds. Just take a moment to think about this. An armed guard at the front door of every school in America. That’s the country that him and the people who vote for him want to live in. My God.
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I know he’s a figure of fun at this point but it’s staggering how insane he sounds. Just take a moment to think about this. An armed guard at the front door of every school in America. That’s the country that him and the people who vote for him want to live in. My God.
I was shooting guns before I could read.I'm 33 and have no idea how to do that.
Sounds crazy.I was shooting guns before I could read.
Yeah, but he learned to read at 25 so it's not too crazy. (I kid, I kid).Sounds crazy.
Horrible trigger discipline, too.Tweet
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Absolute state of that. Poor kid probably thinks he’s just doing something ‘cool’
A measly $176K.How much has Ted Cruz received from the NRA then?
Jesus some aspects of the USA are so backwards it's beyond belief.
Explains a lot.Yeah, but he learned to read at 25 so it's not too crazy. (I kid, I kid).
Cheers, I wonder how much he has really received if that's the official number !! I'd wager 10x that at least !
Yeah, it's not just the formal NRA. It's massive donors and PACs that support what the NRA does as well. He has raised 63 million in the last 5 years, that kind of money has massive strings attached.Cheers, I wonder how much he has really received if that's the official number !! I'd wager 10x that at least !
Any number is weird and too high though
Michael Owen has joined the discussion.The best way to make him think, is by making him think.
What do you mean? I don’t know anything about guns. I’m assuming this refers to the saying “don’t point the trigger at anything you don’t intend to shoot”Horrible trigger discipline, too.
You mean the barrel?What do you mean? I don’t know anything about guns. I’m assuming this refers to the saying “don’t point the trigger at anything you don’t intend to shoot”
See I’m absolutely cluelessYou mean the barrel?
Almost. The tenet is that you keep your finger away from the trigger until you're ready to shoot. I didn't notice it at first, probably because of his tiny hands, but every time he cycles the bolt he pulls the trigger as well.What do you mean? I don’t know anything about guns. I’m assuming this refers to the saying “don’t point the trigger at anything you don’t intend to shoot”
Cruz actually leads the gun lobby dollar race.How much has Ted Cruz received from the NRA then?
Jesus some aspects of the USA are so backwards it's beyond belief.
Yeah, that's fecking stupid.Tweet
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Given the NA education that's not surprisingI was shooting guns before I could read.
He's a weak as piss president. Done absolutely feck all.Tweet
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Yeah, but he learned to read at 25 so it's not too crazy.