You would need one hell of a system to prevent the same side declaring the counts to both stop and continue at the same time.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Easily the two most distressing parts of this entire thread to me have been the way those protestors were chanting "stop the vote" and 700p.
I don't disagree with any of that, but it doesn't appear that voting by mail is proving to public satisfaction that it hasn't been compromised in some way either, to the point of the Trump's own son circulating fake propaganda of ballots being burned. Postal votes are only ultra-reliable once delivered to a polling station too, and are rather volatile up until that point. I am sure Trump and his cult of voters will be bemoaning the postal vote and claiming some sort of fraud for years to come.
But even a hybrid of paper-trail and automation would make sense. I was reading a lot of these counts are manual and are not using optical scanners (and from the one time I did election duty in Scotland, it was manual counting). The margin for human error if counting manually would be higher than a machine, and you could feed it through the machine a couple of times to account for error in less time than it would take a group of people to do the same job.
Though I do think speed has become a bit more important after seeing the current circumstances of protesting and intimidation outside of where the counting is taking place.
Why did you use a monetary amount here?
The guy who teaches next door to me’s wife works with refugees for a living... helps them find a place to live, work, enrolls kids into school, etc. He’s basically told me due to Trump’s refugee policy her company has had to massively downsize and that based on the further cuts to refugees proposed by Trump, if he wins it’ll mean she’s out of a job.
I’m finding it hard to sleep due to being anxious about this result. I can’t imagine what they’re going through as this is dragged out.
I’m finding it hard to sleep due to being anxious about this result. I can’t imagine what they’re going through as this is dragged out.
America horrifies and fascinates me. But I have to go back to the real world now. I am pretty sure this election is decided now. Trump did really well, but Biden did amazing. Penn is going to Biden. Nevada, too. No way for Trump to win these, from the info at hand. That result means tipping point. Biden has beaten Trump as president. GA probably he might hold, doubtful. Arizona won't matter, will probably be a draw. We do have to wait for every vote to be counted. But Biden supporters can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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They were right from the off by the looks of it.
Because time is money bruv.
Love it.
Who was Biden to win from the off?
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Dems"
Just a matter of time now, the news just dragging it out since they've nothing to report.
| David Perdue*(R) | 2,432,911 | 50.03% |
| Jon Ossoff(D) | 2,317,980 | 47.66% |
.3% is alllll we neeeeeddd
I reckon if this goes to run off in January, Dems will clean up and take control of the Senate.
Bookies change with poll predictions - not sure what’s been so hard for people to work out here.
Yes, how dare you vote!That's only because Trump cultists will never accept that the election has been lost legitimately: there is no vote-delivery-and-counting-system that would ever satisfy them.
Can they even win the senate at this point? Maybe I'm not updated here (been at work), but last I heard it looked like the Dems would need to win BOTH Georgia-elections to even tie the senate (and control it through VP)? That doesn't seem very likely.
I understand this obvious fact, but how many bookies were ‘Biden for the win’ at 700P EST two days ago (midnight GMT in the fourth - I think this is correct). Save for a u turn here, that’s who will be proven right at the beginning of reporting.
Marks of a stable genius.
And then you have the refugees traversing Central America to be refused a hearing and getting a one-way ticket in handcuffs straight back to the people they're fleeing from. Plenty of stuff to keep you awake at the moment.
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Yep. So tie means they have some form of control to an extent.
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Wait I though the Donald was going to win so much that we'd get sick of seeing him win? Seeing him lose is much more enjoyable.
There’s literally only anecdotal evidence of any mail in voter fraud. It’s the gullible that are screaming into the wind about this. There’s no evidence of any credible shenanigans or errors that could be remotely applied to the process. I would posit that it has been a boon for voting increase across the board with no more substantial harm through fraud vs. any other voting process.
Why counting mailed ballots isn't fast
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/how-a...re-on-ballots-95350853683?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/how-a...re-on-ballots-95350853683?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
I can only imagine . I can't even start to process how even a small minority of people could believe all that nevermind tens on millions
I’ve been stuck on page 1063 trying to get my head around 700P for about ten minutes.
Voting is just about forgivable but how dare they COUNT the votes!
Warnock will have a slight lead against Loeffler once the campaign begins. Ossoff / Purdue will be tight, but no reason a three point swing can’t occur either way. It could come down to who can tap into their side that hasn’t voted yet.
I don’t even know how to read into the Senate vote there. Perdue is getting nearly identical number with Trump, but Ossoff is lagging behind Biden by about 100k votes. You’d have thought 3rd party voters who don’t vote for Biden would be more receptive to unseating the incumbent, but apparently not.
Still, a 2nd chance is a 2nd chance. And it’s a guarantee Dem voters and donors will again blow a feck ton of money on that race.
Prescient considering this came back in April.
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Was honestly expecting to get to the end of this and read “but they still voted for Trump”.
They’d either all be ‘Biden for the win’ or none of them would’ve been. Due to the obvious fact noted.
Yeah
Really is remarkable how predictable this situation was. Bernie pretty much did a play-by-play of the past two days on Jimmy Fallon a week before the election - including the specific states that would flip from Trump to Biden after election day.
You said many were right from the off. Who was right from the off & what were they stating early on? Why would every bookmaker use the same exact odds? They obviously weren’t all for Biden at the start of the count?
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