2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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And even if the election was delayed, Trump's and Pence's terms would still end at noon on January 20, 2021. If no election has been held by that point, the Speaker of the House would assume the powers of the presidency under the Presidential Succession Act.
 

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DNC rule article 18.4 states any break lasting longer than 65 days in the middle of the primary as a result of global disease will result in a failed primary and the results will then be considered null and void.
 

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9 months off, so yes I'd imagine we will be back in business significantly before that.
Will it though? I don't see how we will get back to normal without a vaccine and/or anti-virals. And a vaccine is not coming until next year.
 

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So to continue my series of 'what happens if they die' questions...

If Biden dies before they're able to conclude the primary is it then Sanders versus Tulsi? If Bernie dies too is Tulsi the nominee?
 

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So to continue my series of 'what happens if they die' questions...

If Biden dies before they're able to conclude the primary is it then Sanders versus Tulsi? If Bernie dies too is Tulsi the nominee?
Warren has 71 delegates. Wonder if she can re-enter? I imagine everyone will start write ins to make sure tulsi doesnt win? Gawd knows.
 

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I don't know what the others did, but Bloomberg at least didn't quit the race, he only suspended it. So I imagine he could win. Well, actually I imagine the entire process would be scrapped, and the Convention would pick, which honestly sounds fine in that situation.
 

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I don't know what the others did, but Bloomberg at least didn't quit the race, he only suspended it. So I imagine he could win. Well, actually I imagine the entire process would be scrapped, and the Convention would pick, which honestly sounds fine in that situation.
Buttigig it is then.

EDIT: For some reason I read that "Coronavirus would pick" :lol: :nervous:
 

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We may not have a nominee for some time at this rate.

This is an utterly crass observation so i apologise in advance, but delaying all primaries, more discussion about the federal government role in health care, more talk about people's healthcare costs. I know one campaign that may get a huge boost out of this discussion.
 

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This is an utterly crass observation so i apologise in advance, but delaying all primaries, more discussion about the federal government role in health care, more talk about people's healthcare costs. I know one campaign that may get a huge boost out of this discussion.
It would definitely benefit Sanders since healthcare is his strongest area, but I'm not sure people would be switched on enough to be bothered about the nuances of health care policy at a time when they are focused on just getting through this mess.
 

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Agree with every word. Harsh but true.

Being criticized by a galactic cretin like Carlson actually makes Bernie look pretty good here. The fact that Tucker considers someone who behaves in a fair minded and dignified manner as "weak", says more about his own moral bankruptcy than anything else.
 

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Being criticized by a galactic cretin like Carlson actually makes Bernie look pretty good here. The fact that Tucker considers someone who behaves in a fair minded and dignified manner as "weak", says more about his own moral bankruptcy than anything else.
Depending on the line he takes in the next debate, a lot of leftists will agree with Tucker about "weakness".
 

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Being criticized by a galactic cretin like Carlson actually makes Bernie look pretty good here. The fact that Tucker considers someone who behaves in a fair minded and dignified manner as "weak", says more about his own moral bankruptcy than anything else.
Also makes the case why Sanders is nothing more than a bog standard social democrat. He's not a revolutionary in any respect. His entire platform is "taxation for public services" and changing the framework or goals of the DNC. He's a social reformer in the mold of Teddy/FDR/Wilson that places government as the focal-point to solve contemporary issues.

Tucker is basically saying in that video, "he's not a petrol-throwing leninist we can hate monger against instead....what a pussy". feck Tucker and his ethno-nationalist BS.
 

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It's funny, classifying Bernie is going to be a never-solved question. Partly because of his own branding, partly because of the deacdes of cold war destroying all mentions of socialism in a positive context, partly because social democracy wasn't represented by a separate party in the US but was co-opted by FDR and later democrats - and partly because there is an actual range of things he is doing.

Most of his policies, like m4a and college - the famous ones - are standard soc dem stuff. they could be done by any centre-left politician if that was the ideological/material context of the US.

Then there's his worker co-determination plan. while this is also recognisable from some european countries, it goes a step beyond the usual and directly establishes some worker power within corporations. Still social democracy, but experimenting with how far it goes and how to adjust power imblanaces within it. Weirdly, despite her stated ethusiasm for capitalism, warren had a similar plan too, though less ambitious.

The green new deal is a little beyond that. While it doesn't directly challenge capitalism, the amount of direct state funding and takeover means an end to private ownership in a major part of the economy, and the introduction of planning. Still social democracy, but getting to the heights of it. Having a plan like that requires some ideological thinking, and would probably not be attempted by an ordinary left-liberal.

On top of all that, there's his plan - to be an "organiser-in-chief" and mobilise the people against the corporate and media class. That is genuinely radical. I think it can be compared to European social democratic and labour parties, but this was at a time when these parties believed in using the welfare state as a transition to a socialist economy. And if you look into his past, he certainly believed in something like that (at the very least, to control the "commanding heights"). His history on foreign policy shows this clearly - even though he has retreated from his most radical positions, he is still way outside the US mainstream and on some issues (like global funding for climate change) on the fringes of the European left.

So, while his policies are mostly on the soc dem side, there is more to it than that.
 
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What's going on here? Just another stage of the grift, or something more?

 

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Rather surreal that a politician is streaming on Twitch and has the most viewers watching.

 
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