If the refrigeration was turned on.
39 Bodies found in a lorry in Essex.
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Just the d notes, always bothered me that I had no idea what was in the back, washing machines, TVs, heroin, people, guns, anything
This is possible but what were his instructions to do with the trailer. We'll find out in due course I suppose.
One would assume, based on the limited info we had, he couldn't check on his cargo at the port because of what the cargo actually was.
He had to drive to a quiet? Industrial unit to check on the people.
It would seem.
It would indeed seem strange that had this been a normal refrigerated trailer he decided to drive to a quiet industrial unit and then open it ...
Still I guess it will be all speculation till the investigation is concluded and I guess that will take several months
Are the two arrested in Warrington Irish as well? I thought I'd read that they were English and the other two arrested were Northern Irish?
You may be right. Sky suggested otherwise but could be the case. Seems they used to own the cab and sold it to a company in Southern Ireland. The other suspect was arrested at the airport - trying to make his escape perhaps?
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/...13fwer4KhPntM8Nzhm1iykwTdVIrUTrC9JVFiU2u21x6g
Part of the article says:
Part of the article says:
It's looking more and more like the driver knew something
I don't see how he couldn't under the circumstances
If he didn't knew, he is extremely careless. I assume that he had a pretty good idea about what was in the trailer.
he probably got paid a decent amount of money for it too.
my guess, good pay and don't look inside so he covers his ass in that regard. He could suspect people, drugs, anything but didn't know exactly what illegality was doing. I don't think he would let die 39 people knowingly (it was a refrigerator truck) and stay in the truck.
Just a reddit user but claiming many were Vietnamese and a little timeline of one girls messages.
Yeah, it was heartbreaking to read the text messages sent from one of those feared to have died in the trailer back to her family in Vietnam. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I've heard some more since my original post, but...only time will tell with all of this.
I've heard some more since my original post, but...only time will tell with all of this.
That’s awful to read that text. How horrible for them and the family back home.
You know they were trying to help their family back home but couldn’t ....
You know they were trying to help their family back home but couldn’t ....
I am sorry for her parents.
The company I used to work for twice accidentally brought illegals into the UK.
Both times, the illegals entered our lorries about here, when the drivers stopped for their breaks.
Our vehicles were steel-reinforced box bodies with a bulldog container lock
https://viperguard.co.uk/truck-trailer/bulldog-container-lock-1
the trailer was locked and sealed. After it's sealed, the driver isn't really allowed to open it up because it means the goods could be compromised.
On both occasions with us, it seems the gang forced open the door at the top, and got just enough room to allow 10 starving immigrants in through the gap. Even with the door locked.
Most of our vehicles were the same box bodies. The company next to ours had a much bigger problem with bringing in illegals as they were curtainsiders, and I think they must have brought in about 10 lots of them just from what I saw when they stopped at our depot and everyone legged it.
Of course, none of ours were fridges.
But that's the thing, if the trailer isn't sealed you have to check the cargo when you stop, particular at truck stops who are used by illegals to sneak into trucks. If the trailer is sealed you need to check the seals. What you can't do is simply ignore everything and just drive.The company I used to work for twice accidentally brought illegals into the UK.
Both times, the illegals entered our lorries about here, when the drivers stopped for their breaks.
Our vehicles were steel-reinforced box bodies with a bulldog container lock
https://viperguard.co.uk/truck-trailer/bulldog-container-lock-1
the trailer was locked and sealed. After it's sealed, the driver isn't really allowed to open it up because it means the goods could be compromised.
On both occasions with us, it seems the gang forced open the door at the top, and got just enough room to allow 10 starving immigrants in through the gap. Even with the door locked.
Most of our vehicles were the same box bodies. The company next to ours had a much bigger problem with bringing in illegals as they were curtainsiders, and I think they must have brought in about 10 lots of them just from what I saw when they stopped at our depot and everyone legged it.
Of course, none of ours were fridges.
This was on the news.
I thought I read that his trailer was sealed, but I don't know
One look at the drivers Facebook page makes it pretty certain that he's probably not the mastermind behind the operation!
They never are because if they were they would know the risk and the consequences. They’re just pawns for whom this is just another simple job. As far as they think there’s no real risk involved, but of course in reality they end up being the ultimate fall guys.
Send in Jimmy McNulty.
In all seriousness, it's absolutely horrible.
In all seriousness, it's absolutely horrible.
Been another arrest, this time a 23yr old from County Down. He was picked up at Dublin Port and his truck impounded
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So they believe he knew what he was picking up?
However he is is the bottom of the food chain, he didnt load them or transport them, they were dead when he got them, so he better not be the only person charged when its all said and done
Also charged with money laundering.
They were Irish too, not sure whether they're from the North or not. There was a report in the Irish Indo which suggested a link to the republican gangs, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
It would surprise me a huge amount if it turned out to be a republican gang, having seen the Facebook page of the truck driver and his choice of flags and football shirts.
I saw the earlier reports suggesting republican links in the Telegraph but it seemed based on a very tenuous link to republican activities in Bulgaria back when the Bulgaria connection seemed relevant. Have you a link to anywhere suggesting the couple arrested in Warrington were Irish?
Strange to me that he would call emergency services if guilty.
Couldn’t see it, especially given the background of the driver.
Don’t think he had many other options, doing anything else would probably get him into even deeper trouble.
Damage limitation... Suspect his instructions were open the container and people will leave then drop off the container.
Upon opening the container he probably found a pretty horrific scene and realised he was pretty much on his own from there on in
Cant really just do a runner leaving your truck, lying open with 39 bodies in it. Who knows he might have rang someone before he called the ambulance with instructions of what to do.
I probably should have searched his name on Twitter before I posted. Yes, highly unlikely
Maybe he couldn’t see/ think of another way out
Widely reported as being an Irish couple living in Warrington.
Yeah I saw it since. Whole thing is sickening and I hope everyone involved is caught and has the book thrown at them.
Not sure about that. The driver is from Portadown for a start, who has photos of himself with Northern Ireland flag on his website. If anything I'd say it's more connected possibly to loyalism. The route that was taken is a known Loyalist route for importing heroin.
What is the great attraction with making it to the UK for these migrants? They supposedly went from Vietnam to China to Germany. Why not stop there instead of risking your life in a -25 degrees trailer from Belgium