My argument is easy to understand. We need a major rebuild and United do not shit money like dubai guys do. Taking that two points into consideration would you rather trust someone with experience or would you go with someone who has been tanking in any EPL management role he had including the one with us?
If you ask me I'd say I wouldn't trust anyone. That's too much power for 1 person to handle. Instead I'd seriously restructure the club by bringing in a top football ceo, a top DOF, a top manager and a top head of recruitment. Marotta, Campos, Mitchell and Allegri could do the trick. Once that is in place we can proceed to the next step.
However leaving the job in the hand of some amateur simply because when he was a player he used to be useful when leaving the bench is frigging madness. The guy is ridiculously out of depth
Campos has recently come out with an interview which echoes exactly my thought about the need of a DoF. The guy knows his stuff on this matter
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Exactly, but considering this and the state of our squad, there is no doubt too much responsibility is placed on Ole. Of course he (Ole) is partly at fault for our awful form, but putting all the blame square on him is unfair and naive. Any other manager would still have to contend with a lacking structure and a shite squad.
If this was 2014 i would have wanted Ole gone yesterday, but the truth is we have been awful for years now, we have been chopping and changing managers and it has not magically fixed us. And by the way, i would have said the same if we had literally any other manager with the same results. I wanted Moyes gone because he took the league champions and made them into a joke, i was ambivalent to LvG being sacked because i think he did fine even though our football was dull as feck, i really did not want Jose gone, but there was really not any choice since he was in full meltdown
Now though? We have burned through decorated coaches for fun, yet the underlying problems are still there and i firmly believe that changing managers wont do much unless there are profound changes both in club structure and in the squad
I personally blame most of our recent troubles on the board. What they essentially did was give a lesser manager a lesser squad after our disastrous last season. Let's be honest, did people expect Ole to outshine LVG and Mourinho tactically? I didn't. I did however expect Ole to raise the morale and with that the quality of the players already in place. Now I think it has become obvious that are players aren't that good to begin with, that in combination with an inexperienced manager has put us in a precarious situation.
I'm in the Ole IN camp for no other reason than that I have zero faith in our board. If we change managers we'll most likely change direction in our rebuild again, it has happened with every managerial change post SAF and nothing tells me that will change as long as Woodward is in charge.
Right now the only question I ask myself is how bad bad am I willing to let it become before I change my mind?
Yeah this is where i am at as well. I just find it baffling that Woody and co are going to outlast their 4th manager in 6 years by the looks of it, yet it is the manager yet again who has to take the fall. If we were a well run club with a competent squad there would be no excuses, but there are so many other problems besides the manager that needs solving. Woody has played us all and if he can just keep blaming and sacking managers with impunity then we will go nowhere
Ole right now is on the level of David Moyes, would you give David Moyes time just to have some "continuity"?
There will be no rewards to reap 2-3 years down the line if you give some clueless manager more time, you are just postponing us getting better with an actual decent coach.
I don't really care about the state of the Norwegian league, who knows the other Norwegian clubs could be worse than League 2 sides.
No one is asking instant results from Ole, if he can't even setup our side to play decently against the likes of Astana, Rochdale then he has to go.
Also you are giving too much credit to Ole for selling unwanted players, anyone could have done that.
The difference was that Moyes took over a squad that had just walked the league and had multiple PL and CL winners in it. Ole took over a squad in full meltdown, had a miraculous winning streak, before it went back to full meltdown. Imo, there is something seriously wrong with the mentality of many of our current players. Of course they should beat Astana and Rochdale comfortably, but is the responsibility on those pathetic performances on coaching alone?
You dont go on a 12 game winning streak on luck alone, and during that period it was all smiles and joy and it seemed everyone in the squad had something to say about how great it was to play under Ole. Then we went from that to this. What the feck happned? Did Ole tell them to start playing like fannies? Did he tell them to blast every long range effort into row z? Did he tell them to misplace simple 10 yard passes or spend an eternity trapping a simple ball? Did he tell them to miss penalties and sitter after sitter while we concede soft goals because they are to busy scratching their arses?
The fact is that we have had good control in the majority of the matches this season, but have failed badly in key moments again and again.