A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

[Igor Drefljak]

Is this still a discussion.

Look, Tottenham are getting NFL games soon. He wont want to leave
Oh, they have a hotel as well, or something...

 

[Igor Drefljak]

I've already said how he could prevent Pochettino from managing at United this summer. He could simply place him on paid leave - still under contract - and appoint a new manager for the 1st team, letting United stew in their own juices and having to go for a Plan B permanent manager.

It's never happening though is it
So we move on, sign a new manager
Then what, you've got a new manager, what do you do with Poch

Let's say a new club comes in for him, what if he then rejects as he wanted the United job
You're paying a guy to sit at home everyday. For 5 years

 

[CM]

100%. There is zero chance of Pochettino walking away from a new-signed 5 year contract to go manage United in the Europa League when things are going so well for him at Spurs.

Speaking of naivety...

 

[Di Maria's angel]

There is a flip side to your argument you are aware surely? Why would the biggest club in the world want a manager who has won nothing at 3 clubs and had oppuertunites to win both the league and an FA cup?

To be honest, I don't even want him at United. I'm just trying to... wind up the King of WUMS.

 

[Ban]

Is this still a discussion.

Look, Tottenham are getting NFL games soon. He wont want to leave
Oh, they have a hotel as well, or something...

Be honest, would you leave the biggest fruit salad bar in Universe for Old Trafford?

 

[Thoraximus]

I am desperate for us to get Pocche. But still I think....
The PO in this video, is amazing. I think the reporter was being a c*nt(they get paid for being that, so I don't respect them). But I feel the PO handled it superbly. The reporter was out of order trying to argue "no, you have to let me ask, you have to answer", the PO did a great job of shutting him down.

I really don't know how you were able to infer what you have from that video.

I do agree that the PO in the video does a good job and the journalist is being difficult, but I do also think that @Rhyme Animal is right, Poch looks keen to talk about it.
That could just mean that Poch thought he could handle the question regardless of what it was, but the PO has obviously had direction from above him to not let anything through.

 

[Sarni]

100%. There is zero chance of Pochettino walking away from a new-signed 5 year contract to go manage United in the Europa League when things are going so well for him at Spurs.

Will be so lovely when we appoint him and you disappear for several months from here.

 

[Sarni]

Is this still a discussion.

Look, Tottenham are getting NFL games soon. He wont want to leave
Oh, they have a hotel as well, or something...

TRAINING GROUND

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

To be honest, I don't even want him at United. I'm just trying to... wind up the King of WUMS.

Your tactic is working my friend .

 

[Random Task]

I've already said how he could prevent Pochettino from managing at United this summer. He could simply place him on paid leave - still under contract - and appoint a new manager for the 1st team, letting United stew in their own juices and having to go for a Plan B permanent manager.

That will never happen.

If Levy did what you suggest, no manager in their right mind would ever consider the Spurs job again.

Some of the stuff you come out with never ceases to amaze.

 

[Skills]

That will never happen.

If Levy did what you suggest, no manager in their right mind would ever consider the Spurs job again.

Some of the stuff you come out with never ceases to amaze.

They would get blacklisted by both players and managers. And they struggle to get players in as it is.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Things are going so well? You're not winning trophies and haven't done in a long time. Ultimately, that's what Poch will want, maybe not at United but I can't imagine he'll be at Spurs for much longer. Your best achievement in the last 10 years was beating Arsenal the other day. Says something about the club.

Yes, clearly they are.

We've become an established top 4 club (actually top 3 over the last 3 seasons and this one so far), which is far better than previously. We have a fantastic new training centre, plus a world-class new stadium soon to open. Were into the CL knockout stages with a decent chance of making the QFs. And we're into the League Cup SF.

Moreover, we have a long-term strategy to establish Spurs as one of Europe's elite clubs, a strategy that is on course and unfolding well. This is what Pochettino signed up for originally and this is why he signed the new contract.

 

[lewwoo]

He will 100% be at Utd next season. He wont turn down the chance to manage at a top club. He has earnt a shot.

 

[PlayerOne]

If we want him he will surely come.

I would too, but we're biased here. I can see why he would want to stay at Spurs for a season or 2 more, especially if they give him some money to spend. He's still young and his stock won't drop I don't think. Poch will stay have his pick of teams when he leaves

 

[Ban]

He will 100% be at Utd next season. He wont turn down the chance to manage at a top club. He has earnt a shot.

He would be crazy not go grab that chance. It's time for him to prove himself at a big, huge club.

 

[Ban]

I would too, but we're biased here. I can see why he would want to stay at Spurs for a season or 2 more, especially if they give him some money to spend. He's still young and his stock won't drop I don't think. Poch will stay have his pick of teams when he leaves

He has done all he could at Spurs. They're now a solid top 4 club with a brand new, out of this world training ground.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

I would too, but we're biased here. I can see why he would want to stay at Spurs for a season or 2 more, especially if they give him some money to spend. He's still young and his stock won't drop I don't think. Poch will stay have his pick of teams when he leaves

That’s pretty much how I see it, although United will try and turn his head but I’m hopeful that won’t work.

 

[GlastonSpur]

That will never happen.

If Levy did what you suggest, no manager in their right mind would ever consider the Spurs job again.

Some of the stuff you come out with never ceases to amaze.

Rubbish. With a multi-million pound salary on offer, a talented squad, CL football, world class training facilities and a fantastic new stadium all on offer, managers would be falling over each to apply.

Managers mostly worry about getting sacked. They don't worry about being held to a signed contract.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

He has done all he could at Spurs. They're now a solid top 4 club with a brand new, out of this world training ground.

No he hasn’t, he has said what he wants to do and he should be able to do it. If he thought he had done all he can why did he sign such a long contract?

 

[Ban]

Rubbish. With a multi-million pound salary on offer, a talented squad, CL football, world class training facilities and a fantastic new stadium all on offer, managers would be falling over each to apply.

What about new training facilities?
Ups, sorry, you mentioned that.

 

[Ban]

No he hasn’t, he has said what he wants to do and he should be able to do it. If he thought he had done all he can why did he sign such a long contract?

He didn't know United job would be on offer when he signed it.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

He didn't know United job would be on offer when he signed it.

You realise how ridiculous that sounds?

 

[Igor Drefljak]

Rubbish. With a multi-million pound salary on offer, a talented squad, CL football, world class training facilities and a fantastic new stadium all on offer, managers would be falling over each to apply.

Managers mostly worry about getting sacked. They don't worry about being held to a signed contract.

Sounds exactly what United can offer, but bigger and better.
Maybe not CL football next season, but
Bigger wages
Bigger budget
Bigger stadium

Oh wait, this is Tottenham, the trophy winning powerhouse

 

[GlastonSpur]

He didn't know United job would be on offer when he signed it.

He knew the RM job might well be on offer. The draw of United pales in comparison.

 

[Ban]

He knew the RM job might well be on offer. The draw of United pales in comparison.

If he comes this summer do you agree to ask for a 6 month ban?

 

[fergieisold]

He knew the RM job might well be on offer. The draw of United pales in comparison.

You under estimate us massively. No manager in the world would not consider taking the United job.

 

[Ban]

You realise how ridiculous that sounds?

That sounds perfect. Not ridiculous.

 

[Womp]

Why does the lure of CL football matter, when realistically he won't win it at either club? To be completely honest, I don't think he gives too much of a feck if he misses out on the CL for a season, in favor of a tournament he has a realistic chance of actually winning.

 

[Igor Drefljak]

If he comes this summer do you agree to ask for a 6 month ban?

Haha feck that, we wanna see the meltdown

 

[El-Manos]

Rubbish. With a multi-million pound salary on offer, a talented squad, CL football, world class training facilities and a fantastic new stadium all on offer, managers would be falling over each to apply.

Managers mostly worry about getting sacked. They don't worry about being held to a signed contract.

This has to be the 100th time you are on about your feckin training facilities. Are the goal posts made of gold or something? Probably a big feckin fountain in the middle of it with ‘Glaston - our number 1 fan/stalker’ engraved

 

[Ban]

This has to be the 100th time you are on about your feckin training facilities. Are the goal posts made of gold or something? Probably a big feckin fountain in the middle of it with ‘Glaston - our number 1 fan/stalker’ engraved

I think he gets properly excited when looking at the pictures of those training facilities.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Sounds exactly what United can offer, but bigger and better.
Maybe not CL football next season, but
Bigger wages
Bigger budget
Bigger stadium

Oh wait, this is Tottenham, the trophy winning powerhouse

You can't offer CL football. You can offer a bigger stadium, but not a better stadium. You can't offer better training facilities. And you offer a worse squad, coupled with a dysfunctional management structure.

So what it boils down to is that you can offer more money. It won't be enough.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

That sounds perfect. Not ridiculous.

SImply put in a clause for a club of his choice, easy.

 

[Phil Osophy]

And what more could he do at United? Because you ain't toppling City in the league anytime soon and you're light years from being able to win the CL.

The notion that United have "all the tickets to win this prize and win it soon" is a non-starter. You've regressed into being merely a top 6 club and it will take years to turn that around.

I get your point but there's a difference between being a top-6 team and a top-6 club. Results along these years speak by themselves, but even in our current situation as a club there's no comparison between United and Spurs.

I'm always respectful about Tottenham because they're doing pretty well, and from the outside you look like a serious club that know what they do. But the truth is you can't go and break a world transfer record for a player like we did with Pogba, and even if you could somehow I don't see Levy doing it. Nor giving outrageus wages to someone like we did with Alexis, fighting for him face to face with City.

We've done bad decisions and money hasn't been spent wisely, but the financial muscle and the ambitions as a club remain there. I don't expect us to fight for the league and CL next season (regardless of the manager) but I can see us finally getting closer every year if we start working in the right direction as a club. And it means having football professionals taking decisions and planning our future, and also a proper modern coach who can get more from the squad.

The 'top-6 club' as you call us was 2nd in the league last season, while playing one of the most underwhelming and uninspiring football that I've ever seen. Discontent players, outdated miserable manager and transfers not impressing enough. Imagine what we could do if we start doing things in the right way, spending big in the right players and introducing them in a working system.

The possibilities of Pochettino will be always higher in the middle-long term at a club like United than at Spurs, and I don't mean to be arrogant, it's pure logic after all. If we offer him the chance of coming and he doesn't take it, then nobody knows when another train will come again. He's exposed to losing credit if results are not good enough in the following years, and some other people become more attractive.

Football is unpredictable and many things can happen, but all things considered and after 5 seasons there, I think it's the right moment for him to leave Tottenham and face a bigger challenge, and I'm sure that he feels this way. If I'm wrong we'll discover pretty soon.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Yes, clearly they are.

We've become an established top 4 club (actually top 3 over the last 3 seasons and this one so far), which is far better than previously. We have a fantastic new training centre, plus a world-class new stadium soon to open. Were into the CL knockout stages with a decent chance of making the QFs. And we're into the League Cup SF.

Moreover, we have a long-term strategy to establish Spurs as one of Europe's elite clubs, a strategy that is on course and unfolding well. This is what Pochettino signed up for originally and this is why he signed the new contract.

Honestly, honestly... Who cares about being in the top 4? You want to be the best and Spurs aren't the best and don't look like being the best. Your opportunity was 2015/16 and you blew it.

Look at A. Madrid, Dortmund and Monaco. They didn't aim to establish themselves as top 2, 3 or 4. They all won their respective leagues and two of them were super close to a CL title.

 

[El-Manos]

You can't offer CL football. You can offer a bigger stadium, but not a better stadium. You can't offer better training facilities. And you offer a worse squad, coupled with a dysfunctional management structure.

So what it boils down to is that you can offer more money. It won't be enough.

Pornhub’s top search 2018 was released recently wasn’t it? I bet you spurs training facilities is right up there

 

[Mick321]

I think he gets properly excited when looking at the pictures of those training facilities.

Are they better than the facilities Mamic has provided? That's the big question

 

[Igor Drefljak]

You can't offer CL football. You can offer a bigger stadium, but not a better stadium. You can't offer better training facilities. And you offer a worse squad, coupled with a dysfunctional management structure.

So what it boils down to is that you can offer more money. It won't be enough.

So basically you're the best club in Europe?

 

[VeevaVee]

You can't offer CL football. You can offer a bigger stadium, but not a better stadium. You can't offer better training facilities. And you offer a worse squad, coupled with a dysfunctional management structure.

So what it boils down to is that you can offer more money. It won't be enough.

We can improve. You can't.

 

[GlastonSpur]

This has to be the 100th time you are on about your feckin training facilities. Are the goal posts made of gold or something? Probably a big feckin fountain in the middle of it with ‘Glaston - our number 1 fan/stalker’ engraved

So what? With the recent addition of a player lodge we now have the training centre of choice for the England team and every international team coming to England. Why shouldn't I be pleased at what Spurs have created?