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Sorry mate that's really generous assessment , infact that level of regular performances with occasional deviation either side of it is something most would associate with World Class players I doubt even you would consider Wan Bissaka as world class .
Okay maybe 7/10 with some better and some worse performances is more realistic - except for Ole season 3 when everyone turned to shit including him.

In our 2nd season with Ole he was a very consistent player reaching 2nd and being the RB behind Greenwood - he was very consistent even though back then he looks very one dimensional compared to how he does now.

He has now improved under Ten Hag & even if he isn’t an attacking RB he does look less one dimensional and took the RB spot from Dalot as soon as he came out of injury.

Let’s see how this season develops - I’ve seen more games literally by quantity by Wan Bissaka when I’ve seen more quality performances from Dalot - but I can literally put all those quality performances in one or 2 hands at max during his whole career at United - Dalot is an older player at United than Wan Bissaka & many people don’t see this.
 
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Was it his cross that set Maguire? Only saw highlights.
 

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Okay maybe 7/10 with some better and some worse performances is more realistic - except for Ole season 3 when everyone turned to shit including him.

In our 2nd season with Ole he was a very consistent player reaching 2nd and being the RB behind Greenwood - he was very consistent even though back then he looks very one dimensional compared to how he does now.

He has now improved under Ten Hag & even if he isn’t an attacking RB he does look less one dimensional and took the RB spot from Dalot as soon as he came out of injury.

Let’s see how this season develops - I’ve seen more games literally by quantity by Wan Bissaka when I’ve seen more quality performances from Dalot - but I can literally put all those quality performances in one or 2 hands at max during his whole career at United - Dalot is an older player at United than Wan Bissaka & many people don’t see this.
Only by a year and bear in mind Dalot spent a season out on loan so basically they've been around United the same length of time
 

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I don’t think anyone is saying AWB is our future RB for the next decade -

but at the same time I think it’s mind boggling that people talk about him like he is completely useless either.

He has been a good, regular 7.5/10 player in nearly every game with the occasional better and the occasional worse over 4 seasons now.

He is the worlds best 1v1 defender and having that on the bench is bloody useful IMO - why not bring him on when Mbappe is absolutely destroying the LW?

AWB has had many wingers in his pocket to make the opposition have to change their tactics and usually fail to overcome it.
Yeah, I'm always sort of hoping Dalot wins the job because the upside seems higher and Dalot is young enough that he could still blossom into a really quality starter, but if I had to bet right now on the future of the position it would be Dalot leaving next summer and us signing a starting RB and keeping Wan-Bissaka around as the backup who starts against scary LWers a fair bit and makes sense as a sub to come on when we're ahead for the same reason.
 

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Yeah, I'm always sort of hoping Dalot wins the job because the upside seems higher and Dalot is young enough that he could still blossom into a really quality starter, but if I had to bet right now on the future of the position it would be Dalot leaving next summer and us signing a starting RB and keeping Wan-Bissaka around as the backup who starts against scary LWers a fair bit and makes sense as a sub to come on when we're ahead for the same reason.
Way too much common sense in this post
 

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ETH really prefers Dalot and he’s giving him every possible chance to nail down the RB spot, but AWB is just a superior player and he’ll prove this again over the course of the season.
 

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ETH really prefers Dalot and he’s giving him every possible chance to nail down the RB spot, but AWB is just a superior player and he’ll prove this again over the course of the season.
The man just needs to sign a top right back. Will have to happen next year.
 

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The only reason ten Hag would sell AWB as the first decision at RB is if he wanted a RB/RCB/RDM type of player as a priority.

This then leaves us Dalot as our main attacking RB - which so far he hasn’t been good enough to be.

Either Dalot improves taking that attacking RB spot or RB/RCB/RDM is regarded as not important (maybe AWB can grow in to this), or both become not good enough and both are replaced eventually.

AWB is a bit like having the best finisher in the world in your subs bench IMO.

It might not seem like the best player for the first 11 because he is not all rounded as a player & just ‘the best finisher in the world’ it might not be a player you go out on a transfer window to buy - but if he is already in the squad then he can definitely have his uses especially as the squad evolves to improve bby bit.

AWB is the best 1v1 defender in the world & that has helped us many games the same way the best finisher in the world may help us scoring some vital goals even if he isn’t the most all rounded player.
 

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A Dani Alves type footballer would make us compete for everything this season, if we could unearth one.
 

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AWB is the best 1v1 defender
I've never really thought it or thought about it until lately. It's interesting that you don't get much push back when you say it, and I've heard it on TV and in commentary recently too.....

In light of that, why wouldn't you keep that weapon at your disposal? I don't know what will happen but it doesn't make sense to shift him. If he is on high wages (trying to understand why a lot of Redcafe wants him gone) then renegotiate, if he's a bad character..... Well clearly he's not... Sooooo...?

Personally I want to see where this improvement goes...
 

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Reminds me a bit of Smalling's situation when supposedly ball playing defenders were preferred to him at the start of the season, but he always worked his way back into the team.

I believe AWB is still better than Dalot and he will prove it again over the course of the season.
 

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I've never really thought it or thought about it until lately. It's interesting that you don't get much push back when you say it, and I've heard it on TV and in commentary recently too.....

In light of that, why wouldn't you keep that weapon at your disposal? I don't know what will happen but it doesn't make sense to shift him. If he is on high wages (trying to understand why a lot of Redcafe wants him gone) then renegotiate, if he's a bad character..... Well clearly he's not... Sooooo...?

Personally I want to see where this improvement goes...
Probably because it's possibly true and people recognize it as such, if AWB isn't the best 1v1 then he's close

What we really want is AWB and Dalot's best qualities merged in to one player, individually, they've both improved a lot but I'm not sure in the long run either are going to be quite good enough
 

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I can't believe he turns 26 in November!

Thought he was younger.
 

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Reminds me a bit of Smalling's situation when supposedly ball playing defenders were preferred to him at the start of the season, but he always worked his way back into the team.

I believe AWB is still better than Dalot and he will prove it again over the course of the season.
I think this is a good comparison but for other reasons too. Both players-can look awkward on the ball and both have had errors in the past that have defined how people see them as players. Both of them for me weren’t as bad as people make out on the ball and good performances are forgotten once a chance to arises to be critical.

I’d keep Wan like I’d have kept Chris.
 

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A Dani Alves type footballer would make us compete for everything this season, if we could unearth one.
As in one of the best of all time? I'm sure he would!

I think RB/RW will be the easiest to see improvements from this season. AWB just needs to keep up his end of season form where he was pretty good and add a few assists in. Antony needs to be more clinical/get a lot more assists. I think they're both capable and we just have to hope Hojlund is half decent.
 

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Dalot and AWB new contracts means they'll be our RB's for many years then, unless someone really wants to spunk stupid amounts of money on them, which I can't see anyone doing.

Honestly as much as I like both I just don't think they should be our RB's of the future on the way they currently play within our setup
 

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Dalot and AWB new contracts means they'll be our RB's for many years then, unless someone really wants to spunk stupid amounts of money on them, which I can't see anyone doing.

Honestly as much as I like both I just don't think they should be our RB's of the future on the way they currently play within our setup
Whatever about AWB vs Dalot, I'd be absolutely astounded if ETH thought neither needed to be upgraded next summer.

And unlike the argument that some put forward when we were in negotiations with De Gea for a new contract, I don't think "we have bigger issues to fix so let's kick the can down the road" really works in this case. Because I can't imagine what other positions we plan to spend our budget on next summer that all rank higher in importance than a starting RB.
 

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Rotate between the two and we're sorted for the next 5 years at least.
Both need to show substantial improvement this year to warrant longer stay at United even that may not be enough , chances are we get Stuck with two average players we are Unable to move if we Extend Wan Bissaka's contract rather than sorting out RB position for foreseeable future .
 

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I don't think Dalot is close to good enough, he's a liability at the back but is decent going forward, but to justify being so dreadful defensively he would need to be world-class going forward - which he isn't close to.

AWB is rubbish going forward but exceptionally good at defending, which is a plus given he is a defender. I wouldn't have either as starting RB but I think AWB offers more as cover. We saw against Lens at the weekend what a disaster Dalot can be when he was at fault for the goal.
 

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Very happy with this. Love him, think he’s quality and far better than Dalot not only at defending but going forward too.
 

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Good news, visible improvements as the season went on last year. Even if he ends up being a specialist RB for big games, he's earned a new deal assuming it's not insane wages.
 

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Reminds me a bit of Smalling's situation when supposedly ball playing defenders were preferred to him at the start of the season, but he always worked his way back into the team.
True. However, it was possible to accommodate Smalling’s deficiencies by putting a really good ball-player (Blind) alongside him. That’s not as easy with a full back.

I believe AWB is still better than Dalot and he will prove it again over the course of the season.
Ditto. I’m with @NoPace in that I like Dalot and want him to be good enough to be first choice but doubt it’s going to happen.
 

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His passing accuracy and end product is actually quite good.

The issue is that his press resistance and control in tight areas simply "looks" awkward. But for the same reason his tackling is so incredible because of his deceptively quick foot speed, he doesn't actually lose the ball as often as you'd think when he's in possession.

With AWB, you have to completely reframe your expectations of what a footballer is physically capable of, both on and off the ball. He'll surprise you going in both directions. He's one of those players you need judge on his stats to fully appreciate how much of a disconnect there is between his ungainliness and his real-world ability. The eye test doesn't work because he's such a unique specimen. I think it took EtH half a season to realise that himself.
 
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Very happy with this. Love him, think he’s quality and far better than Dalot not only at defending but going forward too.
I agree with all of this. Don’t want to disparage Dalot to much as I’ve got time for him too but Wan got game. Hopefully they both go up a level with the competition against each other.
 

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His interview with the Athletic on competing for his place and EtH

Sitting in a hotel room at United’s San Diego base, the Estancia La Jolla, during the club’s summer U.S. tour, Wan-Bissaka explains his tackling pedigree. “I was never taught it, just happened naturally,” he says. “I realised I was all right at tackling around 18, but it caught the eyes of the coaches when I was training with the first team at Palace. That’s when I realised it was a special trait.”

Wan-Bissaka is very laidback, but his enjoyment for stopping opponents is clear. “You can see the frustration,” he says. “But it’s been mentioned so many times they don’t bring it up. I can tell when they’re getting wound up, but I don’t think anything of it. The aim is just to finish the game and help the team.”

Do his own United team-mates bristle at such interventions during sessions at Carrington? “In training it’s full contact, but I wouldn’t say I tackle like that in training,” he says. “I save it for match days.”

There was a prolonged period last season when Wan-Bissaka had no match days to save for. Before the World Cup, he played only four minutes of football, all as a late substitute against Liverpool in August.

It was not until December 21, for the visit of Burnley in the Carabao Cup, that Wan-Bissaka appeared again. Diogo Dalot was Erik ten Hag’s chosen right-back in that span of nearly four months, while Wan-Bissaka was completely left out of 16 squads.

Last summer Ten Hag had wanted to sign a new right-back and was open to selling Wan-Bissaka, but football director John Murtough lobbied for him to be considered again. Gradually, Wan-Bissaka has won Ten Hag round.

Wan-Bissaka admits he thought his time at United might be over. “You have that feeling,” he says. But for me, I always have faith in myself to get out of situations like that. I had my head screwed on and I was ready to do what it takes.”

What it took was listening to Ten Hag’s instructions and applying himself in training. Sessions on the 2022 pre-season tour to Thailand and Australia were punctuated by Ten Hag shouting “inside” to his full-backs, a demand for attacking runs within the width of the 18-yard box.

Wan-Bissaka at first struggled to adjust to this. But United’s winter camp in Spain in December provided an opportunity to press his case while Dalot was playing for Portugal in Qatar. When Dalot returned injured, Wan-Bissaka had his chance.

“The manager wants all the players to give their all and do what he wants, that is something I had to adapt to,” he says. “He will tell you where to be at certain times, when to go in, when to go up, and when to stay. It’s helped me and I’m comfortable doing it now.”


There were low moments for Wan-Bissaka while he went unselected. “It’s quite hard to motivate yourself to train hard,” he says. “Because you be telling yourself, ‘What am I training for, when I’m not gonna be playing?’ But I just had the mindset: ‘I’ll train for myself,’ just to get the best out of myself.

“It’s obviously never good. But I just had to deal with it. I had support around me, my family, telling me every day: ‘Just keep working hard, your time will come’. So that helped me get through each day.”

Wan-Bissaka did not knock on Ten Hag’s door for answers. “From what I could see, it was just his preference,” he says. “I wasn’t really aware. Everyone in their career goes through that, it was just my time. You can go and ask but I’m the type to just get on with it.”

His time out lit a fire inside him, though. Asked how he turned round his United career, he says: “I could say many things, but one is setbacks. Not playing and gaining that hunger to fight for my position and wanting to play, wanting to impress the manager and help the team.

“It was a hard time and the only thing you can do during a hard time is keep working. I got my head down and then got the chance.

“It can go both ways. You can just sit there and complain about it and not care, or you can actually try and I thought the best way was for me to try.”

Wan-Bissaka describes Ten Hag’s management style as “straightforward”, adding: “He will just say it how it is, really. A lot of one-on-one chats. He says what he wants, he has demands, and we have to give that 100 per cent.”

In one sense, the repetitive drills Ten Hag works on in training are not dissimilar from Roy Hodgson’s methods at Palace, when Wan-Bissaka first broke into senior football. But there is a crucial difference. “We do some attack v defence, but obviously with Ten Hag he is focused on the attack, whereas at Palace it was the defence,” he says.

With that in mind, Wan-Bissaka wants to be getting more goals and assists. “Yeah definitely, especially if I am going to be in those positions. It’ll be good to be pushing them numbers.”

Wan-Bissaka is speaking during his third tour with United, which took in New York, San Diego, Houston and Las Vegas. His first, in 2019, was to Australia, Singapore and China. It opened his eyes to the scale of United’s reach after his £50million move from Palace.

He says it was “good to see how big the fanbase is around the world” but the attention took some getting used to.

“As soon as we landed at the airport, it was a shock to me,” he says. “It’s everything, all eyes are on you. It was just different to what I’m used to you, everything is more intense.”

Zaha, who made the same move from Palace to United in 2013, had given him a heads-up. “He told me what to expect, mainly that the fan base is just crazy here. You understand it more once you actually go through it.


“It can be hard, especially outside of football. You go for a meal or something with family and fans are coming up wanting pictures and autographs and stuff. I don’t think they understand when is the right time to approach or not.

“Some of it is difficult, but that’s what comes with the job… I did have good help, I think I had prepared myself. When it happened it’s hard to deal with it, but you just block it out and focus on the main thing, which is football.”

As part of that, Wan-Bissaka has reduced his social media use, and has never been on Twitter. He saw Maddison’s tweet on SportBible and wondered if it was real at first. “I don’t do tweets, I can’t keep up,” he says. “It kind of helps. Twitter can be a dark place, so I avoid it.”

Those who know Wan-Bissaka say he has come out of his shell at United in 2023, being more jovial with people and starting conversations directly rather than staying on the periphery. Friends have moved up from London so he is not travelling down as much, and he works with his own personal trainer and masseuse in Manchester. He is close to Marcus Rashford and Jadon Sancho.

His contract runs to 2024 but United have the option to trigger a year extension. “I haven’t heard anything yet,” he says, before adding: “I’m happy here.”
 

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His passing accuracy and end product is actually quite good.

The issue is that his press resistance and control in tight areas simply "looks" awkward. But for the same reason his tackling is so incredible because of his deceptively quick foot speed, he doesn't actually lose the ball as often as you'd think when he's in possession.

With AWB, you have to completely reframe your expectations of what a footballer is physically capable of, both on and off the ball. He'll surprise you going in both directions. He's one of those players you need judge on his stats to fully appreciate how much of a disconnect there is between his ungainliness and his real-world ability. The eye test doesn't work because he's such a unique specimen. I think it took EtH half a season to realise that himself.
For me it's actually the opposite. The stats flatter him. For example a lot of his overlapping play is safely giving the ball back to Antony (or whomever is there at the time ). It is registered as a completed pass on paper but in practice just defeats the point of having an overlapping body to stretch opponents. Dalot while better on the ball is probably also overrated going forward, this too is true, but none of that matters until AWB can get opponents to respect his threat in the first third and actually defend him. The entire point of passing around to shift defenders is weakened when there's one person opponents don't care to press. I think this is a bigger factor to his starting status than Dalot.
 
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