DannyCAFC
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No, that was Amin Younes.Is this the lad that played confederations cup for Germany this summer?
No, that was Amin Younes.Is this the lad that played confederations cup for Germany this summer?
I'm sure those questions will be asked in the days/weeks/months to come but it's obvious this is not an isolated incident with athletes in basically any sport at times just collapsing like this. I don't think we understand quite enough yet what the sometimes crazy training and nutrition regimens of people athletes have on their bodies for instance, so it ll be interesting to hear if this was pre existing or not.How the feck has that happened and if there is a pre-reason for that condition why the hell it has not been diagnosed by Ajax's medical team ?
Is this the lad that played confederations cup for Germany this summer?
I'm with you on that one though.This sucks. Doesn't sound like there's much hope for regaining brain function or living a normal life, much less playing football ever again. Best of luck to him and his family.
Life can be so cruel to people who have done nothing to deserve it. There's no inherent fairness in the universe.
TFM's "God is in control" comment is almost offensive to me, surely there's better ways to express well-wishing than to say that everything happens according to a god's will. Was it god's will that this innocent kid should get permanent brain damage? But okay, this isn't the time or place for that discussion.
If it isn't the time or place, why did you bring it up?\
TFM's "God is in control" comment is almost offensive to me, surely there's better ways to express well-wishing than to say that everything happens according to a god's will. Was it god's will that this innocent kid should get permanent brain damage? But okay, this isn't the time or place for that discussion.
Come on man. I also completely disagree with tfm's comment but it's hardly offensive; goodwill motivated that message from him.This sucks. Doesn't sound like there's much hope for regaining brain function or living a normal life, much less playing football ever again. Best of luck to him and his family.
Life can be so cruel to people who have done nothing to deserve it. There's no inherent fairness in the universe.
TFM's "God is in control" comment is almost offensive to me, surely there's better ways to express well-wishing than to say that everything happens according to a god's will. Was it god's will that this innocent kid should get permanent brain damage? But okay, this isn't the time or place for that discussion.
I'd assume so. TragedyLack of oxygen and blood to the brain I presume?
Poor lad, thoughts and prayers with him and his family. Such a young age too.
Yes, but what a time to pontificate. Arrogance and insensitivity of the highest order.Actually I was referring to TFM, not you, but never mind.
I expressed my concern and compassion for him and his family, so yes, I consider myself a decent human being. If I can't go on to express my distaste for something I see in this thread, what should I do? Sit here quietly? If others can mention gods, I can comment on that. I respect other people, not ideas that don't stand up to scrutiny.
Same here. When I saw the thread reappear I thought it was he was awake. This has knocked me for 6.Shit I was happy when they said he was recovering... wasn't prepared for this
We don't know how long his heart was stopped for. CPR is mostly useless and is a last, desperate, resort. Cases like Fabrice Muamba are medical unicorns in terms of how successful they are.There were 2 teams from western Europe's top divisions with 2 sets of medical crews, Nouri collapse was filmed on a freakin phone and what within minute he was surrounded by the docs who, after short diagnosis, should have started first aid treatment with resuscitation. Wtf went wrong here, because it fecking shouldn't happen under such circumstances?! Heart stops beating thus oxygen distribution is halted, so it's up to assisting people to mechanically stimulate the process.
Really is. This is why I don't buy all these run yourself into the ground type comments. Football needs to do more for player's healthGood grief, this is awful
Well said.Sad shit.
People question the medical staff and precautious actions when things go wrong. I feel they should be thanked and appreciated for giving him any chance at all, even a very, very small one. It's never a miracle and it's not your prayers, it's a hard job well done by people who accept the fact that things don't happen by wishing they happened.
We don't know how long his heart was stopped for. CPR is mostly useless and is a last, desperate, resort. Cases like Fabrice Muamba are medical unicorns in terms of how successful they are.
Vashu, if it's the way you're describing (I can't bring myself to watch) I can't help feeling you're right.
Nouri falls at the start of the video, he's still seen breathing. After 40 seconds first medic reaches him, the rest of them at 1:12. They seem to start looking for some specific medical equipment at 1:52 (still without CPR), then we get 7'30 minutes cut out. There's an ambulance and they're still on the pitch. No sight of anyone doing CPR, though I know there is mechanical utensil that can replace human with it, however I've got no idea how popular it is around the world (they're in Austria, 10km from Wiener Neustadt).
Why do you say it's useless? Just last week in my country there was an elder tourist on a mountain that suffered cardiac arrest, few people helped him out also performing CPR for 30 minutes until medical helicopter came. The man was saved and he's fine thanks to those who did the CPR, otherwise he'd be dead.
When you've got 2 medical teams at the spot and yet you somehow end up with player being brain damaged related to the 3 minutes time span then it's only right to ask questions. We're not dealing here with an undisputed success, are we?Sad shit.
People question the medical staff and precautious actions when things go wrong. I feel they should be thanked and appreciated for giving him any chance at all, even a very, very small one. It's never a miracle and it's not your prayers, it's a hard job well done by people who accept the fact that things don't happen by wishing they happened.
From what has been said above, it won't be much of a life. Poor kid.Tragic news. Such a young lad. Let's hope he can still live as full a life as possible.
I'm fully open for debate on what could've been improved or what mistakes were made once we know details, rather than guess what happened. The difference I'm trying to point out is that some people hope and wish and pray and others really do stuff. Sometimes they make mistakes. But they take responsibility, take matters into their own hands and try to make a difference. Without them he wouldn't have had any chance.When you've got 2 medical teams at the spot and yet you somehow end up with player being brain damaged related to the 3 minutes time span then it's only right to ask questions. We're not dealing here with an undisputed success, are we?
But I'm not here having a crusade against their profession. This is a specific situation with a very upsetting result that looks bad from the outside. Questions don't harm anyone, while uncritical attitude can sometimes become harmful.I'm fully open for debate on what could've been improved or what mistakes were made once we know details, rather than guess what happened. The difference I'm trying to point out is that some people hope and wish and pray and others really do stuff. Sometimes they make mistakes. But they take responsibility, take matters into their own hands and try to make a difference. Without them he wouldn't have had any chance.
Some people do both every single day.I'm fully open for debate on what could've been improved or what mistakes were made once we know details, rather than guess what happened. The difference I'm trying to point out is that some people hope and wish and pray and others really do stuff. Sometimes they make mistakes. But they take responsibility, take matters into their own hands and try to make a difference. Without them he wouldn't have had any chance.