Adebayor - Medical At City!

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If the fee was 25m then that's a good deal for Arsenal price-wise.

However, it obviously does weaken their squad unless the cash is used to make new signings. So the question is: how much of the money will be held back in view of their large debt? I wouldn't be surprised if they now splash out on Huntelaar.
If Marca are to be believed (which they shouldn't, by all means), Real are looking for 20m Euros for Huntelaar.

Now I'm, not to cluey on all things Arsenal, but if the board want to put a bit of that money towards the debt, that would put him out of their price range, would it not?

Huntelaar at Arsenal would not be a bad fit though, certainly be an improvement on all that "yet-to-be-realised" talent on the books at the moment.
 

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If Marca are to be believed (which they shouldn't, by all means), Real are looking for 20m Euros for Huntelaar.

Now I'm, not to cluey on all things Arsenal, but if the board want to put a bit of that money towards the debt, that would put him out of their price range, would it not?

Huntelaar at Arsenal would not be a bad fit though, certainly be an improvement on all that "yet-to-be-realised" talent on the books at the moment.
Huntelaar at Arsenal is a shockingly bad fit. They dont need him anyway, if they want a good finisher in the side they have Eduardo who provides more than Huntelaar and fits better in their system.
 

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We won't buy Huntelaar, you probably should. I think we will pick up Chamakh.
Is that because your debt will consume some of the Adebayor cash, or is it because you think Chamakh is better than Huntelaar?

Or maybe you just think that Chamakh better suits your needs in view of playing style and/or the list of other strikers at Arsenal?
 

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Huntelaar at Arsenal is a shockingly bad fit. They dont need him anyway, if they want a good finisher in the side they have Eduardo who provides more than Huntelaar and fits better in their system.
Note the "I'm not too cluey on all things Arsenal" bit there in my post.

But yes, I suppose you're right. In these times where the face of the PL threatens to change, Arsenal would probably be better off with something thats familiar and fits (Eduardo), rather than go for someone new. They can't afford to fall behind.
 

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Is that because your debt will consume some of the Adebayor cash, or is it because you think Chamakh is better than Huntelaar?

Or maybe you just think that Chamakh better suits your needs in view of playing style and/or the list of other strikers at Arsenal?
Huntelaar isn't good enough in my book, he's found wanting against top opposition and his overall contribution is Defoe-like. Chamakh is a good like-for-like replacement in terms of style I haven't seen enough of him to say if he's good enough or if he can get goals (record pretty poor on the face of it).
 

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Huntelaar isn't good enough in my book, he's found wanting against top opposition and his overall contribution is Defoe-like. Chamakh is a good like-for-like replacement in terms of style I haven't seen enough of him to say if he's good enough or if he can get goals (record pretty poor on the face of it).
46 goals in 192 first team apps since 2002

Makes for 1 goal every 4 games, roughly.

Could be better
 

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Is that because your debt will consume some of the Adebayor cash, or is it because you think Chamakh is better than Huntelaar?

Or maybe you just think that Chamakh better suits your needs in view of playing style and/or the list of other strikers at Arsenal?
The second, think. (I don't think we put transfer money into servicing debt. It's just that, because of the debt, the only money we've got for transfers is the money made from selling players.)

It might just be because it looks like it's inevitable, but I'm warming to the idea of Chamakh. (Note to Brwned, to forestall your asking: I haven't ever seen him play.)

The good is apparently his ability in hold-up play, the bad is a poor goals-to-games ratio. But folks latch on to the scoring angle too much in thinking about what Ade or his replacement does for the team. We don't need someone to stand there and knock stuff in, we need a pivot for the midfield to play off and someone to get the most out of the talent we have.

I never thought the most important thing about Ade was his goal-scoring. I thought it was the tactical flexibility he gave us, witnessed by how often we ran our offense through him. This is what Ade did in his first full season with us, and it made him a very valuable member of our side from the beginning. It sounds like Chamakh can do that job well.

What matters more in judging Chamakh as a goal scorer is not his goals/game but his conversion percentage. He'll get a lot more chances at Arsenal than he did at Bordeaux. So I'm sympathetic with the idea that Chamakh will be a better goalscorer for us than his present record suggests right now.

Finally, I see us buying him only in order to fill out our squad. We don't need to replace the Ade who was our best striker, because we have RVP and Eduardo who are perfectly capable of stepping up to that role. We just need to replace targetman-role-Ade, so we continue to have that option in the side.
 

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Huntelaar at Arsenal is a shockingly bad fit. They dont need him anyway, if they want a good finisher in the side they have Eduardo who provides more than Huntelaar and fits better in their system.
agreed. Im a huge Huntelaar fan, but he wouldnt fit at Arsenal - i tried it on FM and it failed...they need Veloso!
 

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Huntelaar isn't good enough in my book, he's found wanting against top opposition and his overall contribution is Defoe-like. Chamakh is a good like-for-like replacement in terms of style I haven't seen enough of him to say if he's good enough or if he can get goals (record pretty poor on the face of it).
I don't think either of them are that good at all, but then Chamakh looks better than Adebayor did before he left so maybe he can make the same jump in quality that Adebayor did.
 

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He'll get a lot more chances at Arsenal than he did at Bordeaux.
So I'm sympathetic with the idea that Chamakh will be a better goalscorer for us than his present record suggests right now.
Bordeaux are the French champions and scored just five less than arsenal, why would he get more chances? There'll be stronger defences so on the face of it probably less.
 

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Plenty of strikers Wenger can sign for a fraction of that 25m or whatever. Won't happen but would be scary to see what RVP can do playing off Ruud.
There's something amusing about the prospect of Ruud Van Nistelrooy in an Arsenal shirt. :lol:

Would be an amazing partnership, though.
 

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Is that because your debt will consume some of the Adebayor cash, or is it because you think Chamakh is better than Huntelaar?

Or maybe you just think that Chamakh better suits your needs in view of playing style and/or the list of other strikers at Arsenal?
The latter.

Huntelaar's going to Stuttgart anyway by the looks of things.
 

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What matters more in judging Chamakh as a goal scorer is not his goals/game but his conversion percentage. He'll get a lot more chances at Arsenal than he did at Bordeaux. So I'm sympathetic with the idea that Chamakh will be a better goalscorer for us than his present record suggests right now.
The big problem with Chamakh is consistency, if he was a little more ruthless he'd easily have been the top scorer in France.He misses easy chances, his biggest asset is his aerial play and link up but when it comes to scoring goals, it's not a matter of conversion rate because he's a poor finisher
 

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It sounds like he'd be perfect for playing in the middle, a target-man, in a 4-3-3.

With Arshavin/Eduardo and Robin van Persie feeding off him all he'd have to do was link up well and play the ball down to them.
 

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Anybody else wish we had gone in for Adebayor?
Apparently he was desperate to come to us, in spite of the bollox he is talking now.

He is a moody bastard, but a damn good striker....as he is proving now for the blue shite.
I think there would be more of a rumor if that was true, but he is probably good enough to play for United