Baldwin was also the producer.
Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
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I know. That is why I think is fair to process him as producer and not as the actor that pulled the trigger
Have you ever watched a trial involving a gun?
Quite often the lawyers will get the gun out to show the jury, and guess what happens, everyone who will handle the gun witnesses the check and they still don't aim it at anyone. This is after the gun has been in an evidence locker for years and has probably has been disabled.
It's not good enough to be feckless handling a firearm.
Its reckless to point a gun at someone on the expectation that someone has cleared it and you are culpable if someone dies..
I understand not to be reckless, but if I am convinced it is a prop, is like a toy and will be used as such in a few seconds. Is not like a gun that might have a bullet in the chamber that had been or will be used as a real gun
And yes, I get you, and I agree to a certain extend, but not to the extend to put someone to jail when the responsibility should be for the professional that handed the gun and the person who hire it them
Ah ok sorry
Meanwhile his wife is still cosplaying as a Spaniard…
That’s still one of the weirdest celeb stories I’ve ever read. They’re barking mad the lot of them.
It's stupid when people try to act like a different nacionalidad
I don’t know if you’ve seen it but there’s a clip where she’s on a cooking segment or some sort on some talk show and she pretended to not know how to say ‘cucumber’ in English…her native language. Genuinely one of the best things I’ve seen on YouTube
That’s still one of the weirdest celeb stories I’ve ever read. They’re barking mad the lot of them.
If there is justice, Alec should go to prison for a long time, but he probably will just walk. So much negligence and recklessness at that movie set. Alec, as a producer, knew there were real ammo at the set. He should have also checked the weapon when handed to him, it is a protocol that he didn't follow.
What exactly is the situation? I’ve seen people say it’s the prop manager’s responsibility. No one else’s. So why’s he getting all the stick?
He is the producer who hired the prop manager. He knew there are live firearms at the set. He has a responsibility to check the weapon given to him per protocol and rules of New Mexico. Armorer is also charged.
Do you reckon the prosecution team have a case against Alec?
Yes they do, prosecution doesn't go with late charge like this without solid evidence. Knowing US legal system, Alec will probably walk free.
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Why does everything have to be reported like you are 8 years old and telling your classmates how strong your dad is. Fecking pathetic people.
It happens
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That probably means the weapons supervisor, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed will take the fall. I honestly can't say it was not deserved if anything.
Not knowing all the ins and outs of responsibility on a set my 1st thought is that it’s the armorer’s job to make sure a gun is safe before handing to the actor/producer. That’s her job, right?
Yes, that is her job and the armourer is the only person on set who is supposed to handle the weapons before an actor. And despite what some say, Baldwin as the actor never had to check because of their being an armourer.
But he's also the producer and as far as my understanding goes, he is partly to blame.
Baldwin hired the armourer an i assume as producer is the ultimate liable responsible of what happens in the production to a certain degree. If it would be a fire that would kill a person in his production, he would be responsible and he would need to have insurance to cover certain aspects of it. The person that cause the fire (equally in this case the armourer) would be guilty in some aspects as directly causing the problem and the producer as happening in its production and for hiring who cause it
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Something really stinks in all of this.
I'm surprised they didn't try to sell it
I guess we are approaching the end of this saga.
To sum it up, Gutierrez Reed has or did the following:
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To sum it up, Gutierrez Reed has or did the following:
- two counts of involuntary manslaughter;
- transferred narcotics to another person “with the intent to prevent the apprehension, prosecution or conviction of herself”;
- was likely hungover when she loaded a prop gun with a live round of ammunition;
- was drinking heavily and smoking marijuana in the evenings during the shooting of Rust.
How did I miss this? Was it really the case? That kind of modification could be disastrous.
Damn. That's awful if true although not surprising for the US (or the film industry
).Totally forgot about this saga.
Doesn't look promising for her.
Doesn't look promising for her.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pr...involuntary-manslaughter-nbc-news-2023-10-17/
Sounds like Alec Baldwin's charges will be refiled soon
Sounds like Alec Baldwin's charges will be refiled soon
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Interesting, this clip shows at least some deference to safety.
Is this pre-shooting I'm gathering? Wasn't sure if they were back filming and he's now super safety conscious.
October 2021 was in the upper right corner, so it seems like it was before the incident.
Ah yeah, missed that. Obviously don't know enough details about the actual incident but from this it seems like he was very conscious of keeping the crew safe.
Yeah, doesn't really seem like a 'gotcha' clip worthy of reconvening a grand jury.
Maybe the argument is he was careful enough in the clips but failed to practice the same diligence in the accident?
Perhaps. That's a good shout.
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