Frank Grimes
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Thought he looked a level below Greenwood the few times I seen him play. Maybe he can get a few games in the cups next year and he can improve further.
This is the new trend: Everything the club does is wrong.Are people actually getting annoyed that the club only gave him a 2 year pro deal when that's all you can give a 17 year old? Christ. He'll sign a new longer term deal when he turns 18 next month
I'd actually prefer if we as the club made the decision to not to throw money at him.Are people actually getting annoyed that the club only gave him a 2 year pro deal when that's all you can give a 17 year old? Christ. He'll sign a new longer term deal when he turns 18 next month
The awarding of long and inflated deals to average/ injured players was on Woodward, nothign to do with Pogba. He wanted a 'fat' squad. I suspect its also related to maintaining the carrying value of players on the balance sheet and the debt levels, though that is more a suspicion.I'd actually prefer if we as the club made the decision to not to throw money at him.
I think the people running the club were pissed that Pogba left for free, then that effected their decisions with Januzaj, then "preserving" the value of Mata, Jones and Bailly etc.
We need a wage structure at the club and if that means sometimes youngsters leave to earn more money, then so be it.
At the end of the say, I think he'll stay and sign on as Juve and the Italian league is far from what they/it was and I'm sure Ten Hag has been in his ear about game time.
Erm what? There's no indication we're going to throw money at him or that he's even stalling on a contract. We offer loads of our 18 year olds long term deals.I'd actually prefer if we as the club made the decision to not to throw money at him.
I think the people running the club were pissed that Pogba left for free, then that effected their decisions with Januzaj, then "preserving" the value of Mata, Jones and Bailly etc.
We need a wage structure at the club and if that means sometimes youngsters leave to earn more money, then so be it.
At the end of the say, I think he'll stay and sign on as Juve and the Italian league is far from what they/it was and I'm sure Ten Hag has been in his ear about game time.
He isn't a Greenwood level talent, but if he has an excellent development he has the potential to be a terrific wide forward.I think he is a decent player but that’s about it. I don’t rate him much. The club giving him a 2 yr deal at 17 was the right one. We aren’t missing out on an exceptional talent.
I didn't say he was stalling, or that we were offering stupid money, just said i hope we don't throw money at him like we did with Januzaj.Erm what? There's no indication we're going to throw money at him or that he's even stalling on a contract. We offer loads of our 18 year olds long term deals.
This. With his workrate he's more adept to playing the modern day forward roles than Greenwood was at the same age.He isn't a Greenwood level talent, but if he has an excellent development he has the potential to be a terrific wide forward.
Definitely. If he develops well, then there is no reason why he can't become a Liverpool type of wide forward.This. With his workrate he's more adept to playing the modern day forward roles than Greenwood was at the same age.
Martial is a semi retired footballer. Rashford has declined to championship level and Elanga is a Lingard level of player with brains and higher workrate. None of that options seems right now a solution for LW / LF.We have too many LWF in our team.. Rashford, Martial, Elanga wants to play there now and now Garnacho is best at KWF..
Where did you get that we're throwing money at him? Pretty much every player we rate highly is offered a longer deal when they turn 18 so most of the stuff you're complaining about has absolutely no relevance to this situationI'd actually prefer if we as the club made the decision to not to throw money at him.
I think the people running the club were pissed that Pogba left for free, then that effected their decisions with Januzaj, then "preserving" the value of Mata, Jones and Bailly etc.
We need a wage structure at the club and if that means sometimes youngsters leave to earn more money, then so be it.
At the end of the say, I think he'll stay and sign on as Juve and the Italian league is far from what they/it was and I'm sure Ten Hag has been in his ear about game time.
I meant in general, not saying we are throwing cash at him, just that I hope we don't find ourselves in another Januzaj situation, would prefer us to stick to a wage structure (which we may well be doing).Where did you get that we're throwing money at him? Pretty much every player we rate highly is offered a longer deal when they turn 18 so most of the stuff you're complaining about has absolutely no relevance to this situation
It’s probably the position where it’s easiest to look great as a youngster. Mistakes don’t seem to matter as much like with defenders or GK positions. You’re almost expected to lose possession fairly frequently, and there’s no real pressure to score goals that a striker would be judged on. So yeah, I agree. It also helps that being relatively slight of build (ie skinny) means you are generally quicker over the fast few yards, which again is one of those things that look good in a youth system but end up needing to be addressed at first team level.I really don’t think he’s as good as the hype suggests, the way he plays it just doesn’t seem transferable to the mens game. There’s a few other midfielders he plays alongside who I believe will have a better first team career than him but of course the exciting winger will always steal the headlines
I Agree, he’s been in the pocket of quite a few U18 defenders over the course of last seasonI really don’t think he’s as good as the hype suggests, the way he plays it just doesn’t seem transferable to the mens game. There’s a few other midfielders he plays alongside who I believe will have a better first team career than him but of course the exciting winger will always steal the headlines
Wouldn't expect another Greenwood soonThought he looked a level below Greenwood the few times I seen him play. Maybe he can get a few games in the cups next year and he can improve further.
He’s 2 if not 3 levels below Greenwood what are you on about ?Thought he looked a level below Greenwood the few times I seen him play. Maybe he can get a few games in the cups next year and he can improve further.
I was being generous you daft cnut.He’s 2 if not 3 levels below Greenwood what are you on about ?
In what world was the Januzaj situation a problem? We sold him for a massive profit despite him not becoming a regular, and had a buy back clause just in case.I meant in general, not saying we are throwing cash at him, just that I hope we don't find ourselves in another Januzaj situation, would prefer us to stick to a wage structure (which we may well be doing).
The guy had literally a couple of good months to start his career and United threw like £60k p/w and a multi-million quid signing on bonus his way.In what world was the Januzaj situation a problem? We sold him for a massive profit despite him not becoming a regular, and had a buy back clause just in case.
Basically what the poster above said.In what world was the Januzaj situation a problem? We sold him for a massive profit despite him not becoming a regular, and had a buy back clause just in case.
Poor Luke Shaw took him literally.The awarding of long and inflated deals to average/ injured players was on Woodward, nothign to do with Pogba. He wanted a 'fat' squad. I suspect its also related to maintaining the carrying value of players on the balance sheet and the debt levels, though that is more a suspicion.
I think this might be a very good shout actually. He wants to get in behind and use his pace, he wants to finish and he's actually becoming a lot more of a physical presence as he grows. At the top level he's going to be asked to do more than that from a wide area. But down the middle he'll be able to utilise his strengths and avoid his weaknesses.I think he's going to end up a no.9 tbh. That kind of pace combined with good finishing could be a real weapon even at the top level. Would need to keep improving his hold up play of course and hopefully he will.
Great feet and agility there. To go right with all his weight and quickly switch to the other side is a great sign.
I hope so. Juventus already pushing for him to join them.Are people actually getting annoyed that the club only gave him a 2 year pro deal when that's all you can give a 17 year old? Christ. He'll sign a new longer term deal when he turns 18 next month
Good to hear!They want him in Qatar squad.Tweet
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