Alleged Sex scandal involving Spanish players | No Evidence | Stop Guessing Names

[Irrational.]

Please don't be true...

 

[Earthquake]

Isn't the legal age in Spain like 13 or something stupid?! So very unlikely she was 'underage'

No, 16 in Spain.

EDIT: Actually, at the time, 2012, it was 13, they only changed to 16 last year.

 

[anant]

How similar is it to Benzema and Ribery underage case?

 

[SirAF]

Dreadful situation.. I guess there is not much to say until we know more. If he's guilty then he's obviously out on the street. However, he should be backed until proven guilty I think.

 

[MThomas]

The claim is that he arranged the encounter, so he may have to answer what he knew about what went down.
There is also a separate allegation of receiving a rape video from Torbe.

1: No issue, arranged a meeting between prostitutes and two footballers.

2: And did he know the girl in the video was raped ?

 

[Werder Herzog]

Reading that he has not done anything wrong just made a poor error of judgement (going off the Marca article). Arranging a prostitute would be a minor offence would it not?

Unless it can be proven he knew she was either underage of had been trafficked illegally- which is based on his word...

If he is guilty though then sack him off.

 

[Mciahel Goodman]

Reading reports that he's been sent home from the Spanish squad (de Gea).

 

[KM]

English Marca article if anyone hasn't caught up: http://www.marca.com/en/football/national-teams/2016/06/10/575ac480ca4741b4688b4581.html

Footballers David de Gea and Iker Muniain have both been implicated in the ongoing case against pornography entrepreneur Ignacio Allende Fernandez, better known as Torbe.

A witness in the case - in which Torbe is accused of human trafficking for purposes of sexual exploitation, sexual assault, child pornography, prostitution, extortion and money laundering - has testified that she was abused by the two players.

Muniain is alleged to have had sex with the woman in 2012, while De Gea is alleged to have arranged the meeting.

According to eldiario.es, the arm of the national police force tasked with such matters has attributed a "high degree of credibility" to the women's testimony, and to those of two other women.

They have also ruled out the possibility of "motives existing to discredit those denounced for economic or personal reasons".

The victim's statement, made in front of agents, details a number of instances of harassment by the Torbe network, including an incident involving the Manchester United and Athletic Club players in a five-star Madrid hotel in 2012.

Torbe was alleged to have promised her a lot of money to go the hotel suite, where one other woman and two footballers would be.

"Both the other girl, as well as TP3 [the codename given to the protected witness] were sexually assaulted by the men, as they were physically assaulted by both if they refused," the police report said.

"After finishing with the sexual desires of these footballers, they made threats so that what happened in that hotel room would never come to light."

It was also revealed that the two women were never paid the amount promised to them, with all the money going to Torbe.

"Neither TP3 nor the other woman that was in the room earned anything for the physical and sexual aggression they received."

In a subsequent hearing, the witness finally named the footballers as Iker Muniain and another U21 national team player, and that David de Gea had arranged the evening through Torbe.

So apart from arranging the meeting, it seems that DDG didn't do anything wrong according to this article.

 

[izec]

People need to calm down. It sounds bad now, but i am sure in the end not much will come out of it, at least for Dave. So far nothing suggests it is as bad as some on here are writing.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Seems a bit dodgy that only last week Iker sounded awfully gracious about the possibility of De Gea taking his starting role for the Euros...

 

[Norris]

His defence will be he didn't know she was underage till it happened.

Will be surprised if he will actually goto jail and stuff. If he had assaulted her then maybe but else it gives him plausible deniability?

Isn't the trial on that Torbe fella ? If he's found guilty, I am presuming there will be another case against the players themselves. Seeing as this one took 4 years to materilize, I am guessing that might as well ?

But yeah, it's very possible that he and a few others might go to jail if found guilty.

 

[Mystry]

Have Isco and Martinez actually been named in anywhere credible are they just rumoured?

 

[JPRouve]

Except with added coercion and threats of physical violence.

From what I understand only Torbe is accused of coercion and threats. They clearly state "...que obligaran por Torbe esa noche...".

PS: I'm only going by the police reports.

 

[MThomas]

How similar is it to Benzema and Ribery underage case?

About as similar as the average iq in here and Stephen Hawking

 

[sullydnl]

Wonder what the timeline is for that case coming to a conclusion?

 

[klayton88]

I'd take the sun article with a pinch of salt as it's the sun after all. This is pretty bad though if in anyway he is linked to the case. Sure there are degrees of guilt but why his he even near this kind of shit. I'll never understand pro footballers earning millions and getting involved in this kind of shit. Just adds to the stereotype that footballers are thick as pig shit.

 

[Enigma_87]

How ? Why ?

The extortion part I guess. So that the victims can't go to the police.

"After finishing with the sexual desires of these footballers, they made threats so that what happened in that hotel room would never come to light."

but again IF and HOW they did it remains a bit it unclear. Whether DDG has any part of it as well is up in the air.

 

[2 man midfield]

Nothing to say he's in the wrong really. Can't see it going anywhere as far as he's concerned.

 

[Lennon7]

feck! No defending him if the reports are true, but we really don't know much yet. I reckon the reports he's been sent home are bollocks.

Suppose we'll find out on Monday!

 

[rcoobc]

How similar is it to Benzema and Ribery underage case?

Entirely different?

 

[RaptorSlo]

http://www.managingmadrid.com/2016/...-muniain-allegedly-involved-in-sexual-assault

An English summary of the story

Wait, the translated Spanish report did not say it was De Gea who forced them. Where did that part come from?

 

[Cassidy]

1: No issue, arranged a meeting between prostitutes and two footballers.

2: And did he know the girl in the video was raped ?

I'm not saying hes done anything wrong. I'm saying he may have some questions to answer.

Like your point number 2.
In no 1 he may have to answer what he knew about what went down, if the allegations about him being involved in the cover up are true.

Hopefully not.

 

[MThomas]

The extortion part I guess. So that the victims can't go to the police.



but again IF and HOW they did it remains a bit it unclear. Whether DDG has any part of it as well is up in the air.

But there's feck all mention of De Gea apart from being the one that set up the meet.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

So apart from arranging the meeting, it seems that DDG didn't do anything wrong according to this article.

Depends on whether he a) knew about the sexual assualt taking place b) also threatened her and c) if he knew she was being forced into prostitution (if she was indeed being forced into it)

 

[sullydnl]

From what I understand only Torbe is accused of coercion and threats. They clearly state "...que obligaran por Torbe esa noche...".

You have me there, I'm reading the translated version which seems to say the players themselves made threats of violence against the girl + tried to cover it up afterwards.

 

[carvajal]

De Gea will talk (live in Marca ) at 17:30 http://www.marca.com/futbol/eurocopa/2016/06/10/575ac50e268e3e50718b4651.html

 

[Dov]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Torbe/status/223404375182286848?p=v

 

[mwiggs]

Daily Mail reporting he has been sent home from the Euros...
Link

 

[Manny]

So apart from arranging the meeting, it seems that DDG didn't do anything wrong according to this article.

Even if this is true, wtf is he doing getting involved in this sort of thing?

 

[golden_blunder]

You will be totally SHOCKED when you click to see what DeGea did NEXT!!!

 

[Speedicut75]

So De Gea was allegedly in touch with a porn producer and hired(is that the word) an escort/prostitute (?), who claims she was promised a lot of money and apparently didnt get it(?) and claims to be raped by the players.


Is that the story?

Seems to be, but some are determined vent their outrage regardless.
At the moment, from what's detailed in the article, the most serious accusation, that of physical coercion, on DDG's behalf, is little more than "he said, she said", so it's going to be difficult to prove that type of involvement unless the girl is able to offer some form of meaningful corroboration.

 

[Norris]

So apart from arranging the meeting, it seems that DDG didn't do anything wrong according to this article.

Even arranging a meeting is a crime. He's as liable to be charged as the others, but the charges would be different I presume.

 

[JPRouve]

You have me there, I'm reading the translated version which seems to say the players themselves made threats of violence against the girl + tried to cover it up afterwards.

The problem is that the articles add a lot more than what is in the police report, so maybe they have more informations.

 

[Damien]

Daily Mail reporting he has been sent home from the Euros...
Link

again, like with the Sun one it just says reportedly. Nothing confirmed yet.

 

[anant]

About as similar as the average iq in here and Stephen Hawking

Entirely different?

I mean, Those huys were let off despite having sexual relations iirc. DDG didn't have that. So shouldn't he be facing less severe punishment. Or was he the facilitator?

 

[Jacob]

Give me media coverage and attention - said every whore that has serviced footballers

 

[SirAF]

Daily Mail reporting he has been sent home from the Euros...
Link

Probably just going off The Sun's story.

 

[littlepeasoup]

Stories like this seem to bring out the amateur sleuth in lots of us apparently.

 

[AR87]

This is a human trafficking case, we're talking about girls being forced into prostitution, arranging a meeting for other players to have sex with those girls is a crime.

I get that, but it's possible he was unaware that these girls were being forced in to this

 

[Enigma_87]

But there's feck all mention of De Gea apart from being the one that set up the meet.

Yeah, I'm not sure whether the article is poorly translated, has to be taken in consideration as well.

Besides even if it is only DDG setting the meeting it can also go really bad if he knew what will happen and later he had any possible connection with threatening them.

The question is why the feck will all of them do that.