Pochettino or Deschamps
If they want to see entertaining football, they shouldn't think about him.
Pochettino or Deschamps
Marotta is himself a suitYou are working hard too give the suits too much credit.
It's not surprising at all, 5 five is a very long time. And yes, the main reason seems to be Allegri and the club did agree that they needed a change. They just disagreed and what needed changingIt's not actually surprising that Allegri has left. After getting rid of Beppe it's obvious that the club disagrees with the direction he and him were taking the club. Rumor has it they wanted to make big changes(go into transmission) while Agnelli and Nedved feel there's more to get out of this side.
He's going to be on their max, so on the level with Dybala, Pianic, Higuain...which sure, it's a lot. But again, not outside their wage structure. And Ramsey is very good, just very injury proneCome on, we all know Ramsey who's injury prone and not all that good isn't worth a big contact. Rumor has it he's going to be the second best payed player at the club.
We really should have kept Ole as caretaker and gone all in for this guy.
Look at the top teams, they have top managers. Liverpool have dramatically improved because of giving Klopp 4 years. City, dramatically improved because Peps had 3 years. Give Alllegri a 5 year contract and a large budget to improve United over a long term period.
It won’t happen though. Ole will be given a chance and let’s face it, there’s a good 90% chance he will fail and we’ll be back to square 1 and world class managers like Allegri won’t be available when we sack Ole.
We really should have kept Ole as caretaker and gone all in for this guy.
Look at the top teams, they have top managers. Liverpool have dramatically improved because of giving world class Klopp 4 years. City, dramatically improved because world class Peps had 3 years, both proven to build projects at clubs. Give Alllegri a 5 year contract and a large budget to improve United over a long term period.
It won’t happen though. Ole will be given a chance and let’s face it, there’s a good 90% chance he will fail and we’ll be back to square 1 and world class managers like Allegri won’t be available when we sack Ole.
We really should have kept Ole as caretaker and gone all in for this guy.
Look at the top teams, they have top managers. Liverpool have dramatically improved because of giving world class Klopp 4 years. City, dramatically improved because world class Peps had 3 years, both proven to build projects at clubs. Give Alllegri a 5 year contract and a large budget to improve United over a long term period.
It won’t happen though. Ole will be given a chance and let’s face it, there’s a good 90% chance he will fail and we’ll be back to square 1 and world class managers like Allegri won’t be available when we sack Ole.
IF...and I use the word IF specifically...they actually had a proper league then it MIGHT be a more interesting competition, even though I completely agree with what you're saying.Completely agree with this, and it's all part of a developing effort to get the top clubs out of their leagues entirely into a no-relegation European money-competition. Imagine the boredom of that permanent loop.
You cannot place that level of expectation on one competition, particularly a competition that is decided by a few matches. You cannot say “you had Ronaldo, and didn't win the Champions League, therefore you failed”. It's absolutely ridiculous.City are a very good side, but why should they be called the best side in Europe when everytime they meet a decent opponent it's curtains for them? City have been no.1 for years when it comes to spending money, it would only be fair game to expect them to win at least one Champions-League. Getting their asses handed to them by Monaco or Liverpool running absolutely riot is nothing but embarrassing, even Spurs with all the injuries advanced. After three years in a row Guardiola has failed to win the the thing he was hired to do.
Juve didn't sign Ronaldo to win the league, they're gunning for the Champions-League. He scored both in the home and away game, still it wasn't enough so something must be wrong here. Especially since Ronnie has been winning three CLs on the bounce before.
The aformentioned clubs have the most money in their respective leagues so winning them in a row isn't that special. It's what's expected of them. Losing to minor clubs longterm will see you face the sack, so rightfully Juve are changing something now, IMO. One or two early exits could see the end of Guardiola at City or standards have fallen.
Some evidence to support the theory of Allegri being too conservative.
No idea about this journo and what Radio Sportiva is, but he's claiming "today was a decisive day" and that Pep will sign 4 year contract with Juve.
Getting a bit of traction on Italian Twitter, but they love rumours so might mean nothing.
I have seen Juve play a few times this season. Must say I was surprised how defensive Allegri is. I knew he wasn't an all out attack style kind of manager but didn't know he was this cautious.
His strong point has always been how he can set up a tight defence but I would have thought now he had such firepower at the front he would slightly release the handbrake. So to see them being so cautious against some minnows was painful to see.
Earlier in the season I couldn't believe some Juve fans when they said they wouldn't mind if he left cos they had enough of his negative tactics. Having seen those few games I understood what they meant.
The problem for Allegri is most big clubs nowadays prefer a manager who is attack minded. He is very good manager but his tactics will make clubs at the top think twice before employing him, unless they are desperate of course.
That's always been the way with top Italian managers though. The strong defence has been the mainstay of teams like Juve, Milan, Inter, and Roma for decades, and nobody ever did it better. Allegri has a win percentage of 72%, which is better win ratio than the great Lippi. We can argue that Italian football ain't what it was, but Allegri has a pretty decent record.
Anyone but Pep please. I'm worrried that if he leaves City Liverpool will just win title after title.Could be Pep next summer? City pretty much used Pellegrini as an interim manager, no reason Juventus wouldn't do the same to someone like Sarri
They can't, that team is going to need a new midfield soon and it's only a matter of time before Salah and Mane feck off somewhere. They might get one more go at it but you've got to feel that this was their chance again. Klopp also won't be around in two seasons time.Anyone but Pep please. I'm worrried that if he leaves City Liverpool will just win title after title.
They can't, that team is going to need a new midfield soon and it's only a matter of time before Salah and Mane feck off somewhere. They might get one more go at it but you've got to feel that this was their chance again. Klopp also won't be around in two seasons time.
Pep's contract with City is till 2021 so 2 more years. A transitional manager at Juve who will transform them into more fitting to Guardiola's style team is what they should be looking for if they really want Pep as their coach. Today's Juve is far away from a team that is suitable to his methods and style.Could be Pep next summer? City pretty much used Pellegrini as an interim manager, no reason Juventus wouldn't do the same to someone like Sarri
Those three are not world class, Wjnaldum couldn't even get in the Newcastle team at one point. Milner and Henderson haven't got another season like this one in them.They already bought a new midfield with Fabinho, Keita, and Wjnaldum.
I can't see where Salah and Mane would go that would be an upgrade on Liverpool atm either.
So your mate is sure City will actually be banned?I’ll persist with this theory and most likely make a fool of myself, but I only have one ITK guy and it’s a Juve lad who correctly told me about Ronaldo, from today he’s 90% sure of Pep to Juve due to City’s CL ban. He also says Koulibaly will be target number 1 and Pogba will be lured there and perhaps offer could include Dybala. Let’s see if he’s right again...
He is quite convinced they’ll get two years ban, but it might as well be just wishful thinking.So your mate is sure City will actually be banned?
Sarri or Pochettino, third choice Simone Inzaghi
Why would their top players want to leave when everything is currently going so well for them?They already bought a new midfield with Fabinho, Keita, and Wjnaldum.
I can't see where Salah and Mane would go that would be an upgrade on Liverpool atm either.
The obsession with the Champions League is getting ridiculous, especially as you need luck to win it. It's not a realistic expectation of any team or coach to definitely win the Champions League because one bad match, maybe even one bad 45 minutes, and you're gone.
Manchester City are comfortably the best team in Europe, with the best coach, they've put 198 points on the board over two seasons in the hardest league, and they haven't won it. They haven't even got to the final.
Everyone knows that Serie A is a piece of cake to win for Juventus, but I don't see how you can replace someone who has won it five times in a row because they played one bad game against Ajax.
I suppose lots of posters are younger and don't care, but I enjoy football less and less. It's such a cynical, uber-commercialised world. Virtually all of the European leagues have been destroyed by money. Serie A used to be a truly great competition, now it's garbage. Ligue 1 is almost completely pointless. How many consecutive seasons have Bayern won the Bundesliga? Wow, I wonder if they'll be in the title race next season, I can't wait to find out.
All because of the obsession with the Champions League. Well, not entirely, but it has been the biggest contributor to this. And now you get sacked if you don't win it, even if you win the league five years in a row.
I don't think there is much argument that Allegri is a good manager even if I feel we can't pay too much attention to his recent record in Serie A as he had huge advantages compared to his rivals.
What is up for debate is, is he now considered a defensive manager? In this current time the word defensive is a dirty word in footbal (wrongly in my opinion). There was a time when a club would employ a manager if his record was good, regardless of how he set up his team. Nowadays however more and more clubs want a manager who plays attacking, progressive football. It's near the top of priorities.
One reason could be that all the managers who prioritised defence over attack have failed to have any continuous success. It seems all the managers currently building successful teams (Pep, Klopp, Ten Hag, Poch etc.) are very attack minded.
The last defensive minded manager I had great hopes for and thought he would leave a legacy was Diego Simeone. But he never really kicked on despite spending large amounts of money. Maybe it is just not possible to build great sides when your main strengths are defences anymore.
No, they're not.
Well it's not Madrid. Or Tottenham, or Juventus. Or Ajax.
You could say it's Liverpool, but the head to head record this season is 2-1 in favor of City.
Man City are NOT comfortably the best team in Europe, there's absolutely no evidence to support that statement.
The facts are: they exited at the quarterfinals stage, this year and the year before. Not sure how this makes them better than Barcelona, Juventus, Ajax, Liverpool etc.
Domestically, they won the league by 11 mm, their rivals had 1 defeat all season and are going to the CL final.
Yes, Man City are a very good team, but they have to actually win the fecking Big Ears to be crowned the best team in Europe. #winningwithoutwinning
The obsession with the Champions League is getting ridiculous, especially as you need luck to win it. It's not a realistic expectation of any team or coach to definitely win the Champions League because one bad match, maybe even one bad 45 minutes, and you're gone.
Manchester City are comfortably the best team in Europe, with the best coach, they've put 198 points on the board over two seasons in the hardest league, and they haven't won it. They haven't even got to the final.
Everyone knows that Serie A is a piece of cake to win for Juventus, but I don't see how you can replace someone who has won it five times in a row because they played one bad game against Ajax.
I suppose lots of posters are younger and don't care, but I enjoy football less and less. It's such a cynical, uber-commercialised world. Virtually all of the European leagues have been destroyed by money. Serie A used to be a truly great competition, now it's garbage. Ligue 1 is almost completely pointless. How many consecutive seasons have Bayern won the Bundesliga? Wow, I wonder if they'll be in the title race next season, I can't wait to find out.
All because of the obsession with the Champions League. Well, not entirely, but it has been the biggest contributor to this. And now you get sacked if you don't win it, even if you win the league five years in a row.
In a league where the league winner is more or less a forgone conclusion before the season even starts, barring a spectacular collapse (and even that’s not enough as Bayern showed you can recover from basically an awful half season and win the league still), exactly what metric are these managers supposed to be judged by if not by the only competition where they aren’t already expected to win by default? How else do you properly assess their performance? That’s not to say Allegri has underperformed as two CL finals in the last 5 years is a decent return, but of course the CL is going to be a big factor in assessing managers in these leagues if the other competitions are so uncompetitive.
It's an insanely volatile competition, and it's not the best measure of quality. Have Zidane and Luis Enrique and Ancelotti been the only successful managers in Europe over the past 5 years? And are all other achievements at Barcelona, Juventus, PSG, Bayern (and probably City according to some) worthless?