JakeC
Last Man Standing 2 champion 2020/21
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IF anderson gets sold maybe we'll buy two new CMs
Can you imagine the reaction if Scholes retires, Anderson is sold and we still don't buy one.
IF anderson gets sold maybe we'll buy two new CMs
I could see it happening. Powell coming through. And of course there's always Fletcher to come back. Why would we want a midfielder? He'd never get games.
In all seriousness there actually is something to that. Fergie sets up in a certain way, there's no reason to believe he'll change this come next season. He has Carrick as his main midfielder and he has been very trustworthy as of late. Yesterday we saw Rooney in CM – something Fergie will no doubt experiment with further.
He, now and through his entire career has never been good enough to be an out and out ball winning midfielder who can playmake.
Fletcher needs to be replaced this season. If he can't at least get on the team sheet now then he has to be replaced. Having that extra defensive player will allow for a few more combinations in midfield and give Ando a chance to play and build a run of games. Of course Fergie has to take the gamble and actually give him a string of starts in the first place.
Neutrals view on Anderson:
When Anderson first joined Manchester United, little was known about him, except that he was a young talented midfield player.
He possessed incredible pace and attacking flair during his days at Porto but clearly his arrival at United was not based on his attacking potency.
Sir Alex Ferguson often played Anderson in the centre of midfield, expecting him to play the role of a box-to-box or defensive midfielder.
Nothing could have prepared him for his new role at United - and so he started to learn on the job.
Fast-forward to his current situation: he finds himself unused and unwanted at United largely due to his ineffective performances.
Is he really to be blamed for his average performances on the field?
He was never meant to be a tough-tackling, ball-winning, box-to-box midfielder. If fans watch his performances for Porto, they would realise that he did possess exceptional pace and flair. He was able to dribble and weave through opponents and make clever passes to his team-mates in the final third of the pitch.
If he was to play in his natural role, he should be playing as an attacking midfielder, just behind one or two strikers depending on the formation of the team.
To take a creative attacking player and attempt to re-train him in a defensive role was the biggest mistake United made. In doing so, they have completely destroyed his natural talent and the abilities that came along with it.
He is not as quick as he used to be; instead he has more weight on him now to suit the combative environment in the middle of the park. His long passing and through balls have improved slightly - once in a while fans get a glimpse of his superb defence-splitting passes but not too often given he hardly has the chance to do so. Whatever dribbling ability and confidence he had has greatly dwindled.
As a player who is still struggling to fit into his given role, and as a person who appears to have lost his natural ability, Anderson is now pretty much a ruined player whose talent has been wasted.
Had his qualities been identified and put to use much earlier in his United career, the Red Devils may not have needed to sign Japanese playmaker Shinji Kagawa to add creativity to the attack.
Fans and neutrals will never know what could have been - only what has been done.
Either way, Anderson's time seems to be coming to an end at Old Trafford and hopefully he is able to reignite his career away from England.
A player who came to the Theatre of Dreams with such huge potential - he may now never realise his true potential.
He is not as quick as he used to be; instead he has more weight on him now to suit the combative environment in the middle of the park
To take a creative attacking player and attempt to re-train him in a defensive role was the biggest mistake United made.
Pretty obvious that. A lot of Caf folk said years and years ago that converting him to a box to box or whatever was a bad idea.
It's a crappy article though.
Fanboi drivel.
It's getting really tiresome the way so many modern football fans fall in love with individual players and will then try to blame anyone but the footballer himself for not living up to hype/expectations.
Article has a point. We did try to make him into something he isn't. Fergie tries that sort of thing now and again but it doesn't work every time. I don't know why people act so defensive when someone dares to suggest it's not entirely Anderson's fault the way he is now.
Ok then. What is/was he?
I believe he played in the Ronaldinho's position at Gremio (left forward) and as and attacking midfielder at Porto. Something like Kagawa at Borussia Dortmund. It's in the article above but it may also be false. I only watched Anderson once before he joined us and it was for Brasil in a Copa America game or a friendly, can't remember. He played as a left forward sort of thing. And was a bit shit.
Fanboi drivel.
It's getting really tiresome the way so many modern football fans fall in love with individual players and will then try to blame anyone but the footballer himself for not living up to hype/expectations.
I particularly liked this bit:
To take a creative attacking player and attempt to re-train him in a defensive role was the biggest mistake United made.
Out of interest, would there many posters wanting Ando to leave IF we were definitely not to replace him? I.E. Yes you can sell Ando, but you will have one less player unless you promote youth...
Just interested if people feel he is taking up a place in the squad for someone better or if they just do not want Anderson here anymore...
I have no problem with Anderson staying here whatsoever even if we were to sign someone else.
I do think he has found a level of consistency to the point that he'll give us a 6/10 or better whenever he plays, instead of us not having a clue which Anderson will show up that day. He has also hasn't been injured as much lately which is a positive. Considering how much we rotate, we need numbers in midfield, so I couldn't see any positive in selling Anderson.
Out of interest, would there many posters wanting Ando to leave IF we were definitely not to replace him? I.E. Yes you can sell Ando, but you will have one less player unless you promote youth...
Just interested if people feel he is taking up a place in the squad for someone better or if they just do not want Anderson here anymore...
Whenever someone have a different opinion from you the usual Pouge attacks starts. Never a attempt to find consensus or a polite answer. Welcome back Pogue, good to see that you haven't lost your hallmark.
Regarding Anderson its sad that he couldn't live up to his potential, but he's still young so maybe he can restart his carrier somewhere else.
Out of interest, would there many posters wanting Ando to leave IF we were definitely not to replace him? I.E. Yes you can sell Ando, but you will have one less player unless you promote youth...
Just interested if people feel he is taking up a place in the squad for someone better or if they just do not want Anderson here anymore...
Out of interest, would there many posters wanting Ando to leave IF we were definitely not to replace him? I.E. Yes you can sell Ando, but you will have one less player unless you promote youth...
Just interested if people feel he is taking up a place in the squad for someone better or if they just do not want Anderson here anymore...
When it comes to midfield, i would rather build on what we have than overhaul. The club will have to compensate for those that leave, but there really is a lack of rotation in midfield at times. Cleverley has played too much football and could be suffering from burnout now. We should add more reliable players and let form dictate it as is the case with every other position
You have to consider though, that Anderson does not want a squad role with the World Cup coming up. Now would be the best time to leave, and going back to Porto could line up some form of trade.