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Whats the deal with this guy?

is he going on loan to a Brazillian club like Robinho, or was he in Brazil for a holiday against the clubs wishes?
 
Did you not see the 1,000 post thread on the subject or summat?
 
niMic said:
He was great on CM, he was.
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Huh... no he wasn't.

Flashes that's all. He could never replace Scholes. Too inconsistant. He needs to get his head down and develop a work ethic.
 
French Ligue 1 side Paris Saint Germain hope to complete the January transfer deadline day signing of Manchester United midfielder Anderson , according to L’Equipe.

PSG have been in discussions with the Premier League champions as they are looking for a left-sided midfielder.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had been unwilling to let Anderson leave Old Trafford but has reportedly now relented after the Brazilian midfielder went AWOL last week.

The 21-year-old midfielder travelled to Rio last week without telling anyone at the club after he was left out of Manchester United ’s first team for the match against Hull City.

Whilst in Brazil, Anderson held discussions with Vasco Da Gama who admitted they could not afford the Manchester United midfielder.

Anderson has started only nine of Manchester United 's 24 Premier League matches so far this season. He has struggled to establish himself as a first team regular at Old Trafford since his 2007 move from Porto.
 
Drifter said:
French Ligue 1 side Paris Saint Germain hope to complete the January transfer deadline day signing of Manchester United midfielder Anderson , according to L’Equipe.

PSG have been in discussions with the Premier League champions as they are looking for a left-sided midfielder.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had been unwilling to let Anderson leave Old Trafford but has reportedly now relented after the Brazilian midfielder went AWOL last week.

The 21-year-old midfielder travelled to Rio last week without telling anyone at the club after he was left out of Manchester United ’s first team for the match against Hull City.

Whilst in Brazil, Anderson held discussions with Vasco Da Gama who admitted they could not afford the Manchester United midfielder.

Anderson has started only nine of Manchester United 's 24 Premier League matches so far this season. He has struggled to establish himself as a first team regular at Old Trafford since his 2007 move from Porto.
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:lol: So are we!
 
Drifter said:
Anderson has started only nine of Manchester United 's 24 Premier League matches so far this season. He has struggled to establish himself as a first team regular at Old Trafford since his 2007 move from Porto.
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Only?

So, over a third of them, despite having Scholes, Carrick and Fletcher to compete with.

38% of the teams games, compared to Iniesta's 39% of games in the season he was the same age.

Yep, he's being really underplayed, because 21 year old centre mids always play loads of games for big teams.

Great journalism as always.
 
Brwned said:
Only?

So, over a third of them, despite having Scholes, Carrick and Fletcher to compete with.

38% of the teams games, compared to Iniesta's 39% of games in the season he was the same age.

Yep, he's being really underplayed, because 21 year old centre mids always play loads of games for big teams.

Great journalism as always.
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Why choose Iniesta to compare him to rather than any other of the thousands of equally suitable comparable midfielders? Doesn't make any sense to me.

And referring to Anderson's 9 starts this season as 'only' is perfectly justifiable - this was expected to be his breakthrough season and it was expected he'd push through to become a valuable, key player for us.

Are you suggesting he's played as many games as we could possibly have hoped and that everything is hunkydory?
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Why choose Iniesta to compare him to rather than any other of the thousands of equally suitable comparable midfielders? Doesn't make any sense to me.

And referring to Anderson's 9 starts this season as 'only' is perfectly justifiable - this was expected to be his breakthrough season and it was expected he'd push through to become a valuable, key player for us.

Are you suggesting he's played as many games as we could possibly have hoped and that everything is hunkydory?
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His just stating that he doesn't have to play 25 plus games to eventually become great... Like Iniesta who I failed to see anything really special in him when he was breaking through also. However I can see why people would be disappointed because especially when he has games like he did at Eastlands.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Why choose Iniesta to compare him to rather than any other of the thousands of equally suitable comparable midfielders? Doesn't make any sense to me.
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Because people think Anderson will be A World Class CM/AM, perfect comparison in terms of the level of club (Barca & United) and the players mentioned.

BaldwinLegend said:
... this was expected to be his breakthrough season and it was expected he'd push through to become a valuable, key player for us.
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Says who? I was thinking next season would be the breakout season we're all anticipating, all in the eye of the beholder.

BaldwinLegend said:
Are you suggesting he's played as many games as we could possibly have hoped and that everything is hunkydory?
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I think he is, and I agree to an extent.
 
Obi Wan Mikel played 34 simply because Essien has been unavailable for the large part of the season to date. Essien is currently on the treatment table..still...

Anderson is competing with Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes etc...
 
BaldwinLegend said:
If you think Anderson has done well this season you must be out of your tree. He's been useless unfortuntately.
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The poster boy of OTT that post is.

He's been better than last season, steps forward.

I fear for some football critics on here when it comes to their children... They'll be trying to make them speak at 2 months !
 
i think we should just relax and give the kid (emphasise kid) some time

the raw materials are there and he could still develop into an excellent player

look at nani the last couple of weeks - totally transformed

it would be very very hard for any player to replace scholes given his intelligence and passing ability

to replace scholes you would need fabregas/xavi and they aren't exactly abundant
 
Anderson Searl said:
The poster boy of OTT that post is.

He's been better than last season, steps forward.

I fear for some football critics on here when it comes to their children... They'll be trying to make them speak at 2 months !
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:lol:

"Wife, our lads development isn't going very well, he's a right flop to be honest, can't walk or talk, shits himself...I mean, he's 6 months old now. So I'm sorry, but I'm sacking you, selling the kid."
 
Drifter said:
French Ligue 1 side Paris Saint Germain hope to complete the January transfer deadline day signing of Manchester United midfielder Anderson , according to L’Equipe.

PSG have been in discussions with the Premier League champions as they are looking for a left-sided midfielder.

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson had been unwilling to let Anderson leave Old Trafford but has reportedly now relented after the Brazilian midfielder went AWOL last week.

The 21-year-old midfielder travelled to Rio last week without telling anyone at the club after he was left out of Manchester United ’s first team for the match against Hull City.

Whilst in Brazil, Anderson held discussions with Vasco Da Gama who admitted they could not afford the Manchester United midfielder.

Anderson has started only nine of Manchester United 's 24 Premier League matches so far this season. He has struggled to establish himself as a first team regular at Old Trafford since his 2007 move from Porto.
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PSG is a huge laughing stock in France.Thank God Anderson didn't join this joke of a club
 
buckooo1978 said:
i think we should just relax and give the kid (emphasise kid) some time

the raw materials are there and he could still develop into an excellent player

look at nani the last couple of weeks - totally transformed

it would be very very hard for any player to replace scholes given his intelligence and passing ability

to replace scholes you would need fabregas/xavi and they aren't exactly abundant
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Exactly. He's only 21 and he needs time...just like Nani.
 
Jeysus, I can't believe some peoples attitude towards young players, if they don't tear the place up by their 20th birthday then they're shit.

the only thing Anderson is missing is maturity and some intelligence during matches, both of which he will develop given time. Scholes played 17 league games when he was 21 and 26 the year after, in a much less competative league.
 
Was having a chat with my mate today, and we were just thinking that there are hardly any modern Brazilian midfielders if any who have been performing brilliantly since they were young. Most of them get noticed in their mid twenties and peak in their late twenties (For example Kaka, Diego, Melo, Ronaldinho, etc). And I think this applies to Ando as well. I don't think we will see the best off him before he is 24-25 which is a good three years from now. What do you think?
 
Baby Faced Assassin said:
Was having a chat with my mate today, and we were just thinking that there are hardly any modern Brazilian midfielders if any who have been performing brilliantly since they were young. Most of them get noticed in their mid twenties and peak in their late twenties (For example Kaka, Diego, Melo, Ronaldinho, etc). And I think this applies to Ando as well. I don't think we will see the best off him before he is 24-25 which is a good three years from now. What do you think?
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Is this based solely on his nationality?
 
Baby Faced Assassin said:
Was having a chat with my mate today, and we were just thinking that there are hardly any modern Brazilian midfielders if any who have been performing brilliantly since they were young. Most of them get noticed in their mid twenties and peak in their late twenties (For example Kaka, Diego, Melo, Ronaldinho, etc). And I think this applies to Ando as well. I don't think we will see the best off him before he is 24-25 which is a good three years from now. What do you think?
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But didnt they all come after Brasil great teams and were having a few down years (anything not in the top 5 is a down year for them)?

Also people knew about Dinho and Kaka before their mid 20s
 
Baby Faced Assassin said:
Was having a chat with my mate today, and we were just thinking that there are hardly any modern Brazilian midfielders if any who have been performing brilliantly since they were young. Most of them get noticed in their mid twenties and peak in their late twenties (For example Kaka, Diego, Melo, Ronaldinho, etc). And I think this applies to Ando as well. I don't think we will see the best off him before he is 24-25 which is a good three years from now. What do you think?
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Kaka, Diego and Melo are passing from the worst season of their career, so I really can't see sense in what you're saying. Anderson's problem boils to one simple thing, ie we had been playing him out of position (too deep) for too much time. You can't expect him to suddenly become a great creative midfielder when he had passed much of his time at OT tackling and hassling opponents.
 
Baby Faced Assassin said:
Was having a chat with my mate today, and we were just thinking that there are hardly any modern Brazilian midfielders if any who have been performing brilliantly since they were young. Most of them get noticed in their mid twenties and peak in their late twenties (For example Kaka, Diego, Melo, Ronaldinho, etc). And I think this applies to Ando as well. I don't think we will see the best off him before he is 24-25 which is a good three years from now. What do you think?
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Is the late 20s the new early 20s?
 
Yeah, Kaka isn't exactly the best example.

He played well in his first year with Milan, and in his second year he was essential in Milan's progress to the 05 Champions League final...at that time he was 22 or at most 23
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Total nonsense. His "problem" was the reason why he was played deep, not the other way round.

That's not even mentioning the dozens and dozens of games where he's either been asked to play in a more advanced role or as one half of a midfield two a formation which ALWAYS allows our CMs get to forward if they wish.
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Its not true. With Ronaldo in the team we needed 2 deep lying midfielders, a role Anderson had to adapt to. Now we expect him to change his game to that of an attacking midfielder. Such change requires time.
 
devilish said:
Anderson's problem boils to one simple thing, ie we had been playing him out of position (too deep) for too much time. You can't expect him to suddenly become a great creative midfielder when he had passed much of his time at OT tackling and hassling opponents.
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Total nonsense. His "problem" was the reason why he very occasionally got asked to play deep, not the other way round. When you've a got a player as incompetent in front of goal as Anderson it makes sense to sometimes give them a role which makes the most of their other strengths.

Besides, in the vast majority of games at United he was either been asked to play in a more advanced role or as one half of a midfield two; a formation which ALWAYS allows our CMs to play from box to box. I can't even remember the last game we played with a specialist holding midfielder but I do know it won't have been Anderson in that role.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Total nonsense. His "problem" was the reason why he very occasionally got asked to play deep, not the other way round. When you've a got a player as incompetent in front of goal as Anderson it makes sense to sometimes give them a role which makes the most of their other strengths.

Besides, in the vast majority of games at United he was either been asked to play in a more advanced role or as one half of a midfield two; a formation which ALWAYS allows our CMs to play from box to box. I can't even remember the last game we played with a specialist holding midfielder but I do know it won't have been Anderson in that role.
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As I said the previous formation demanded the two midfielders to play deep and cover lot of inches of pitch. Now we are expecting Anderson to act like an attacking midfielder. That transition requires time. BTW if SAF wanted a scorer in midfield then he shouldn't have signed Anderson in the first place. The boy was never a scorer in midfield.
 
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