There is no question that we would have been far better keeping DDG and using the Onana money elsewhere. Not a hindsight thing. I've always said that.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 50
- Clean sheets
- 13
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 6
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Onana would have conceded both low shots in this match. Such a relief not having him in goal.
Edit: and I had to go and jinx it. Just conceded.
Edit: and I had to go and jinx it. Just conceded.
He has made more howlers than Taibi the worst keeper I've ever seen play for United. Who lasted just four games at Old Trafford as a result of ONE howlers.
Mentioning Evans is some kind of defence for Onana?
Onana is not fit to lace his boots, even at 40 years young.
I don't really see a way back for him here now. Afcon on paper was his chance to go and get some confidence back but he has had a horror show yet again and seemingly their manager is competent enough to drop him.
There's nothing so far to suggest he'll be fine. He's been a disaster thus far and it's looking more and more like his head's gone.I think you might be a bit biased, Dave
Seriously though, he's made some great saves and shown excellent resilience to come back from his early mistakes. We'll see if he's good enough over the next few months, hopefully with a settled defence in front of him.
I think he'll be fine.
Onana would have saved that
Nah, I get a good laugh out of this thread. I find it funny that people were willing to defend and wanted to keep the highest paid keeper in the world after 5 years of hilarious cock ups and blunders, some of which were way worse than anything Taibi ever did. I think they should hold the same standards and at least afford Onana the same courtesy, instead of writing him off after half a season.
Despite having no defence in front of him he has the 2nd higest nunber of clean sheets in the league, has made more saves than nearly every other keeper, and in half a season has bettered a lot of De Gea's records from the whole of last season so I think its wrong to claim there is nothing to suggest he'll be fine.
Nothing? Really? Disaster is far too strong.
I get that he had a bad start and that was enough for some. I prefer to look at the bigger picture and, like I said, he's shown great resilience and really turned around his performances. But I guess we'll see where he goes from here.
To have faith in gk who showed that he lacks basic skill in saving shots?
I can ignore mistakes. Bad form, confidence, bad luck....it happens. But he just doesn't have quality and ability in his primary job; saving shots. To see that you don't need one or two years. Even few games are enough to see it.
Embarrassing being dropped for your country when you play for a top English side compared to where that other keepers from. ETH must be shown up aswell
Can't see the next manager keeping him. Hopefully he finishes the season strong and attract some saudi interest.
Not watching the game or knowing what shot you're talking about but we've come full circle now!
I think his actual goalkeeping technique and fundamentals are massively inconsistent, bordering on poor but I personally think he's like Ederson (minus the sweeping). In a ball playing team, he'd contribute to so much more. Unfortunately, I don't think we're likely to see that in the next 4 months.
He doesnt lack basic skill in saving shots though, his stats so far show that.
If he ever gets his balls back and actually sweeps, then maybe. Right now he's Claudio Bravo, and recently showing shades of ddg as well when he's rooted to his line.
And neither do his previous years as a goalkeeper suggest he lacks skill.
It doesnt matter though, people have made up their mind because he has made some big mistakes that cost us Europe. For some people the hardest thing to do is to admit they are wrong and change their opinion. Even if Onana started to play like Alisson they would still say ''told you so he is shit'' the moment Onana makes a mistake (something even Alisson does). Every goal Onana will concede is micro analysed in a way that there is something to blame Onana for. All just to not have to admit they were wrong.
If achieving a howler reel larger than Barthez's after half a season is not a disaster then I'm not really sure what would qualify as one.
There is no resilience, he went 6-7 weeks maybe without a clear cut howler. That's not a cause for celebration.
I don’t like using our legends’ words as a gospel but in this case I feel like it’s appropriate. I mean if Schmeichel thinks that he has a specific issue with his goalkeeping technique… there’s certainly some basic things that he does wrong. I would’ve said “differently” if it didn’t cost us as often as it does.
“Schmeichel” said:
It might make sense to drop Onana. There were stories that he considered whether he would go to the championship in Africa at all, and he chooses to arrive as late as possible. Perhaps it can be interpreted as a lack of motivation to play for the national team.
What’s this got to do with ETH? fecking hell
Watch him walk out of camp and retire again.
Wouldn't surprise me if he took the field against Newport.
Wouldn't surprise me if he took the field against Newport.
It appears that Onana has been dropped to the bench by his national team in favor of the starting keeper for a 15th place side in the French league. Nice exactly impressive.
Being utterly humiliated again, it really would be best of ten Hag gave him some time off even if for only 3 or 4 games to allow Onana to get his head back together and start performing like the keeper most of thought he would be when he arrived at Old Trafford. There really is a decent keeper in Onana, nothing special but undeniably decent, and if he's given a chance to reset his mentally I have no doubt he will start putting in decent peformances for United.
Being utterly humiliated again, it really would be best of ten Hag gave him some time off even if for only 3 or 4 games to allow Onana to get his head back together and start performing like the keeper most of thought he would be when he arrived at Old Trafford. There really is a decent keeper in Onana, nothing special but undeniably decent, and if he's given a chance to reset his mentally I have no doubt he will start putting in decent peformances for United.
I'm really trying to reserve judgement on him as everything he's been involved in since he left Inter has been a calamity really, some his fault, plenty not his fault. Things need to calm down. He's been shit of course, confidence rock bottom, but I do still think he's mostly fine enough to not actually be an issue for the next 3-5 years for us. He won't restrict us from playing a certain style, and you'd hope he cuts out the mind bogglingly bad mistakes that he made from time to time this season (they're mistakes any pro should not be making). Cut those out and he's a good goalkeeper. But such is the state of the club that those flukes have been happening a bit too often. But I'm fine with just assuming he's the guy for next season and revisit in summer 2025.
Well it’s his signing… he chose to play him against spurs which meant he was late to the AFCON and now he’s not even getting picked for his nationality .
Is this really where we are at now, seeing shots on the TV and claiming Onana wouldnt have saved them?
This ridiculous agenda against Onana is getting embarrasing, if you are upset about Liability Dave leaving thats fine but please dont take it out on Andre Onana.
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Hahahahahaha
This kind of sums up the issues. We all know this isn't true 'he cannot jump'
but you've written it in a serious way talking about a professional GK.I think we can say he's made some high profile errors in the CL and looks to have a bit of an unorthodox technique (I remember people saying DDG going with his feet was all wrong back in the day but he turned out to be fine for most of his time here). I do think some people have been mislead though, there have been posts on here saying they thought he was going to be coming for crosses and dominating the box, not sure he's ever done that but the bar was just super low with DDG. I am happy with his profile, I said it early on, it just depends on the risk reward factors and we can't really judge that until a season is done and we can look back and provide context.
The real shame is how petty some of the posting has become (see above), it's reminiscent of when Poch got linked to the United job and then posters would follow his PSG career and post whenever they lost.
Well, nothing there to claim or not. It is not rocket science; if it is going on target, it is a goal.
So has he he ended up with the 2nd most clean sheets in the league then? Did he not face a single shot in any of those games?Well, nothing there to claim or not. It is not rocket science; if it is going on target, it is a goal.
Your opinion is no more valid than mine
Have you forgotten the guy is supposed to be worth £50m
He's an international
He's supposed to be top goalkeeper, not someone learning the trade like the DDG you are talking about
Have you forgotten the guy is supposed to be worth £50m
He's an international
He's supposed to be top goalkeeper, not someone learning the trade like the DDG you are talking about
No, it's more saying we've got bigger problems Infront of Onana. It's not absolving him of his own issues, but I'd like to see him with a stable defence Infront of him too. That's the more pressing need than trying to sell Onana and then replacing him.
Mentioning Evans is some kind of defence for Onana?
Onana is not fit to lace his boots, even at 40 years young.
It's been pointed out in both Onana threads and was well known when he joined that he doesn't get on with the national team coach.
Calm yourself.
Give over ffs. He’s a crap keeper for the top level. Pretty simple stuff
People saying stupid shit like "sell every ETH signing" etc really deserve a punch.
Have you watched him try to dive
Forget to tag someone?Your opinion is no more valid than mine
Have you forgotten the guy is supposed to be worth £50m
He's an international
He's supposed to be top goalkeeper, not someone learning the trade like the DDG you are talking about
Must be the same unexplained paranormal phenomenon that caused "Liability Dave" to win the Premier League Golden Glove last season. Better get Mulder and Scully on the case.