SteveW
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He has only himself to blame for this. He hid against Brighton. It was a huge disappointment from a player who needs to prove himself. Hopefully he gets another chance
I don't really agree. There was nothing he should have done differently on any of the goals. I think our main issue in the first half wasn't really on the defensive side apart from the obvious individual errors. The reason they had so many opportunities going forward was because we were so aimless in attack that we consistently gave the ball away and Brighton had an effective plan of how to counter quickly by linking off of Murray. Fred and Pogba were much worse IMO in the first half, and I don't think it is right to drop him entirely from the squad for someone like McTominay who he has outperformed completely in preseason.Of course he was, which was why he was hooked at half time.
Don't get me wrong, everything went round around him, and it was a huge ask for him but he was absolutely invisible in the first half when we didn't have the ball, which is kind of a problem for a defensive midfielder. It's hardly the end of the road for him, but it's neither surprising that Mourinho has gone back to players he trusts and knows can do the role.
That doesn't even make sense tbh. Lindelof has been benched and Bailly dropped from the 18 as well.Fred, Lindelof, Bailly were all atrocious but because they are Mourinho buys he tends to favour them.
Two of those three were dropped.Typical Mourinho, scapegoating as usual.
Fred, Lindelof, Bailly were all atrocious but because they are Mourinho buys he tends to favour them.
Pereira was no worse than Pogba either.
Great to see us resort to the good old hoofball devoid of any actual tactics for the umpteenth time. What kind of club are we that our only gameplan when we go down is to resort to that shite? Can anyone imagine any top club in any of the big 5 or 6 leagues playing like this? Rating the likes of Fellaini and McTominay above Pereira is just shocking.Ridiculous he was not in the squad ahead of Fellaini and McTominay.
Fellaini I get. He's our plan B. Though, at this point, should be starting as hoofing to him is the only thing we do consistently well.Ridiculous he was not in the squad ahead of Fellaini and McTominay.
Bailly didn't make the match day squad and Lindelof was benchedTypical Mourinho, scapegoating as usual.
Fred, Lindelof, Bailly were all atrocious but because they are Mourinho buys he tends to favour them.
Pereira was no worse than Pogba either.
That doesn't even make sense tbh. Lindelof has been benched and Bailly dropped from the 18 as well.
Two of those three were dropped.
I agree - Jose is just annoying at this point in time.Apparently he hasn't even traveled with the squad. Ridiculous if true. How can you cast aside your best performer in preseason for average players like Fellaini and Mctominay, when he's shown way more potential than either? 45 minutes where he was far from our worst player and he deserves to be dropped from match day squad for two weeks? Matic made a mistake far bigger than anything Pereira has done so far
Gutted if that's the case. With Jose it seems to be all about trust. If you earn his trust, as McTominay has, you're in. And you'll get way more chances even if you're shit. All managers have favorites but with Jose it just seems even more unfair. Then again, if you're going to war you need people you can trust. And Jose is at war right now. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he replaces Fred with Fellaini for Burnley. God, I hope not!Apparently he hasn't even traveled with the squad. Ridiculous if true. How can you cast aside your best performer in preseason for average players like Fellaini and Mctominay, when he's shown way more potential than either? 45 minutes where he was far from our worst player and he deserves to be dropped from matchday squad for two weeks? Matic made a mistake far bigger than anything Pereira has done so far
It's got hardly anything to do with trust & mostly to do with strength, physique & work rate in my opinion. All very overrated values in terms of how he uses it.Gutted if that's the case. With Jose it seems to be all about trust. If you earn his trust, as McTominay has, you're in. And you'll get way more chances even if you're shit. All managers have favorites but with Jose it just seems even more unfair. Then again, if you're going to war you need people you can trust. And Jose is at war right now. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he replaces Fred with Fellaini for Burnley. God, I hope not!
Exactly. He trusts the players that show those qualities. That's what I mean by unfair. His favorites are the people with less talent or flair but the ones who try hard and carry out his instructions. There's no justification for Mctominay taking Pereira's place after the pre-season he had. He was definitely not one of the worst players at Brighton and yet he's yanked off at halftime. Really great for the kid's confidence.It's got hardly anything to do with trust & mostly to do with strength, physique & work rate in my opinion. All very overrated values in terms of how he uses it.
Yep, that's what annoys me. With Fellaini already there it's absolutely ridiculous to have McTominay ahead of Pereira (unless an injury of course). Hell, even without Fellaini it'd be ridiculous, but at least I could kind of understand it in that case.The worst part is with Fellaini there, you don't even need McTominay there as well. Pereira can at least offer something different.
Periera is just a far more versatile player than McTominay, the type you want on your bench.Yep, that's what annoys me. With Fellaini already there it's absolutely ridiculous to have McTominay ahead of Pereira (unless an injury of course). Hell, even without Fellaini it'd be ridiculous, but at least I could kind of understand it in that case.
In saying that, it's just rumours ahead of this game and we all know how often they turn out to be wrong.
So true. I struggle to see the kinda player McTominay is and can become in the future.Periera is just a far more versatile player than McTominay, the type you want on your bench.
McTominay is very average, always has been. No idea what he brings to the table that is not already covered by Fellaini, who is better in every way.So true. I struggle to see the kinda player McTominay is and can become in the future.
Different rules for different players. Has been the case during his entire tenure here.Judging by pre-season and the Leicester game, Pereira should be ahead of Fred, Matic, McTominay and Fellaini. There could also be a debate to be had even ahead of Pogba. Unless he's injured, obviously.
Has always been the case for every other manager everywhere too. For obvious reasons.Different rules for different players. Has been the case during his entire tenure here.
Which are?Has always been the case for every other manager everywhere too. For obvious reasons.