I despise Di Maria but LVG was fecking toxic,
I can see the point for all of them tbh. The main issues I see is not so much in quality but a few of them, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Valdes, Falcao maybe, did not really want to be here and more interested in money imo then fighting for trophies. Sanchez and arguably Lukaku were the same. Big, big money for players that were not 100% committed.
Yeah I hate Di Maria but LVG was fecking disastrous for us.
The funny thing is, on here, LvG generally gets billed as being a-bit shit, but a good guy. I think his man management was absolutely woeful. Going from LvG and Mourinho to Ole in that aspect, is like going from Benteke to Haaland in a footballing capacity.
LVG was just too honest and player power is too different for his approach to work, i's a bit of a stretch to call him toxic. Mou 3rd season was toxic. If you actually read what ADM is saying, it just shows the problems the old school disciplinarian managers have these day - essentially that LVG didn't praise ADM enough (or at least as much as ADm thought he should do) and wanted to show him what he could do better.
Yeah absolutely agree. He was a massively detrimental appointment and doesn’t get billed as such.
Absolutely! Just to add though, Di Maria himself came across as a toxic prick and I was delighted to see the back of him. He's a good player, but not one I would want at the club.
Both were horrible. Everyone knew what kind of player Di Maria was, Van Gaal even named him as the player he wanted to play 4-3-3 and then moaned about him giving the ball away.
Falcao was on loan with option to buy, because signing him was a big risk after he did his ACL. I'm 99% sure he did not get a raise by going to United, we just paid Monaco a hefty loan fee.
Oh yeah, no excuse for Di Maria being a scumbag. Couldn't wait for him to leave in the end.
No. Mourinho was the worst of them all by a distance.
He had the biggest ego but in my opinion LVG took us in a completely different direction with both the style of football and recruitment.
Agree with this, LVG did more lasting damage I feel as he sold great players, brought in absolute shite, and tried to take in us a direction which was alien to the club's values.
Mourinho actively started beef with the players, there is no one more toxic than him, whereas LVG was just stubborn. He also did not get many signings that he actually wanted, like Muller, Lewa, Mane, Kante, etc. So in that aspect, a very inexperienced Woodward was equally to blame for the squad building.
I know people on forum hate him, but LVG played a huge part in his drop of form. LVG was completely deluded with his passing for the sake of it and zero risk shooting and stuff. It is not just ADM who got disillusioned. Other players regressed too.
First season Mourinho was much better than anything Lvg served up. The man is a dinosaur who thinks he can bully players like it’s the 90s. His football turned me off watching football.
The toxicity that still exists now was put in place by Mourinho imo. Fans against fans, fans against players, even journalists that favored Mou went on the offensive against the club afterwards. The last few months of Mou was by far the lowest I've seen the club, fanbase and the general image of the club. We still haven't recovered. The man shat on everything to make himself look better, and it worked to a large degree with many fans today convinced United is a "joke" this and "joke" that.
I think it's a shame that you didn't stick to the approach you followed with appointing van Gaal. When you signed him, I thought United would finally get a clear playing philosophy which could only suite the club and take you to the next level. Van Gaal has his flaws but he definitely had a very positive effect on Bayern e. g. in the long run, even after his departure. I think you would be much better than you are now if you had sticked to this plan instead of appointing Mourinho, who's a clear break in style to LvG.
This is before we add the fact that he turned down Kroos. A fact confirmed by kroos himself.
Oh wow.
Yes, Anglo-Saxon colonialism was the true renaissance that brought the rest of the world out of the middle ages
Exactly, though it was Spain and Portugal and not the UK who were the main colonial . Without the cultural influence from the west these countries would still be medieval.Yes, English and the European colonialism saved South America
Yeah I'd agree, and probably said so at the time, that this was the lowest point for us, but it came after another failed previous manager so there was an accumulative effect and a sense of hopelessness that nothing was working on these appointments. But agree that Mou was feckin repulsive in the way he handled the players, the club and himself and stole the spirit from the players and the fans alike.
Why do you bring up colonialism? I am speaking of cultural influence. Capitalism, liberalism, enlightenment, rule of law etc.Yes, Anglo-Saxon colonialism was the true renaissance that brought the rest of the world out of the middle ages
Thank you, pasty-faced white dude.
To be honest, although LVG had a clear style of play and approach, it was never a style the fans would have warmed to, in his time here it neither provided many results or entertainment.
Yes, half the world would be such a mess if it wasn't for potatoes, Bruce Dickinson and Monthy Python.
Ah yes, the reason we are all prospering in my country is because the Anglo-Saxons occupied my country and looted everything. The world needs to worship our liberators. What a disgusting post.
This post is stupid from a variety of reasons, not the least because potatoes originate from South America.....You just degraded the cultural influence from South America...
