I mean seriously. Come on!
Antisemitism & Islamophobia
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To me those are a clear sign of intimidation. They don't look friendly at all. I can see what @NotThatSoph is saying but I'd be very scared for my safety if I was a Jewish person living in that neighbourhood in Paris.
I've been trying to find out some more.
Apparently a similar stencil was used in Saint-Ouen, but accompanied with Palestinian slogans. That makes it likely that it was the same people or group, which would make it pretty clear cut. The prosecutors say they haven't been able to find a connection between the stars and the people living there, though, so either they don't want to say or whoever did it went through Aubervilles choosing random places.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/ar...avid-found-tagged-on-buildings_6216629_7.html
One of the many disappointing things surrounding this whole event is that one should be able to rightfully criticize Israel and their actions without being labelled an anti-Semite which has become increasingly harder to do. Yes I can see how Jewish people can feel intimidated coming home during a pro-Palestine demonstration, the same way I can understand how uncomfortable it must feel to be Palestinian or British-Palestinian and see the government of the country you live in not care that thousands of your people are being murdered. If you can recognize the sufferings of one, you should be able to recognize the sufferings of the other. Its also why I think some of the most brave people are Jews who are protesting in the pro-Palestinian protests as well as airing their objections to what Israel are doing. I can't imagine the courage it takes to go against Israel.
Just been on Rachel Rileys twitter, she's trying to get hamza choudry cancelled. She's a nasty piece of work
Do the hooligans walk around with a stencil to draw these?
Wait what? The footballer for Leicester?
Yes, he made some “from the river to the sea” post, and then apologized.
If ever anyone weaponised antisemitism, it's her.
Literally modern day nazis chanting about jews, unchecked, and everyone sniggering. In the middle of Paris. The reactions are the most brutal thing.
This sickness has got way out of hand, people are going to get killed. feck anyone that is enabling this or turning the other way because it's their 'side' or it may divert attention away from Israel.
This sickness has got way out of hand, people are going to get killed. feck anyone that is enabling this or turning the other way because it's their 'side' or it may divert attention away from Israel.
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If I could report @Andy_Cole post quoted in posts 4 & 5 I would.
Despite not knowing what the original title was, I can't see how that post is acceptable on any level.
I appreciate that it may already have been dealt with.
Edit: Oops wrong poster, now amended
Despite not knowing what the original title was, I can't see how that post is acceptable on any level.
I appreciate that it may already have been dealt with.
Edit: Oops wrong poster, now amended
It's disgusting behaviour and people like the scumbags here should be punished in the harshest possible way.
It's the normalisation and the laughing that chills my blood. This would have been unthinkable a month ago. Where will we be in another month? It has to stop.
I also worry about our multicultural society. People are going to use this shit as excuses for all kinds of racist bullshit policies as well.
That is just sickening. Protesting for peace, solidarity with Palestine etc all of that is great but dehumanising the Israelis and literally chanting for the deaths makes me sick to my stomach.
That's actually pretty interesting. It's still a pretty clear sign of intimidation, and I'd be feel super intimidated if I was a Jewish person, even if I didn't live in that neighbourhood and just saw it online.
Yeah feck those people. Should be arrested and fined. People smirking and finding it a joke are just as idiotic, it's not funny or clever. Twats.
She was hot though.
That guy either doesn't need his job anymore, or has a room temperature IQ. What an idiot.
Too late.
Yeah, this guy is done and rightly so. What a cnut.
My social feed is quite grim. Not even your average criticism of Israel. Just straight up "Jews control our economy" shit.
Call them out. Don't leave it unchecked.
I have never seen antisemitism (can we just call it racism??) at this scale, it's truly horrifying.
Ironically, I imagine many of the perpetrators of this are also in the camp arguing against the need for a Jewish state. Well done for letting your utter bile prove otherwise.
Ironically, I imagine many of the perpetrators of this are also in the camp arguing against the need for a Jewish state. Well done for letting your utter bile prove otherwise.
Had an in-law ask me last week why Jews love money so much.
What did you answer?
Your in-laws are Iraqis right? I assume they grow up in Saddam's Iraq. Hardly surprising but all sorts of stereotypes have been perpetuated. My parents are convinced all Iranians are drug addicts and Moroccan women are sex workers.
I gave a serious answer, tried to help her understand the historical reasons Jews got shepherded into certain professions, and how as a consequence certain stereotypes came to be attached to them and highlighted at times of high tension. Also made the point that everyone likes to make money. The question wasn’t really asked with any malice, but it’s indicative of the type of ignorance that arises when this conflict is suddenly on the minds of people who generally ignore it.What did you answer?
Some of them left Iraq even before Saddam came to power. But this person grew up in Ireland so I won’t blame it on Iraq.
‘Islamophobia’ is spelled incorrectly.
This sort of shit is not going to help the fight against islamophobia. Especially when it transitions into blatant antisemitism. Everyone is losing their minds.
Edit - the best bit is it was filmed in August. Those filthy zionists and their precognition. Boycott M&S.
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Edit - the best bit is it was filmed in August. Those filthy zionists and their precognition. Boycott M&S.
I believe the bold is wrong. People can and do make choices not just because they agree with something, but also because they disagree with something else even more. Votes of "protest" are a thing. Fascists are IMO so good at not just being manipulative, but also taking advantage of mistakes, wrong messages, etc. Populists are for the most part World Class not at offering solutions, but at poking holes in the adversaries; when those holes are the size of black holes, the win is obvious.
Nothing has really changed here though. Populists and fascists have been more or less the same for many decades. What was keeping the electorate away was the rational alternative, what the left was having a dominance over. That is going to shit, IMO, with the modern "vocal" left. There is only so many times you can be called a racist for not liking a film, or a singer, or any of the myriad of "social justice" points that the vocal left decided to make a hill and die on.
His tweets have been shared quite a bit in the other thread, haven't they?
Are you referring to my post? If so, sorry. I didn't see them.
I was referring to your post, but in the sense that I remember checking out that account, because it was posted as a news source.
I'm not sure when the left supposedly left behind the discourse of rationality but right-wing parties won plenty of elections in post-World War 2 Europe:
- In the UK, Conservatives have been in power for 31 out of the last 44 years.
- Since German reunification, CDU have been in power for 24 years out 33.
That is one of the main points I think. If you want to have both a rational view and discourse and also make moral equivalence for religion, then you condemn yourself to nothing less then schizophrenia. The values of feminism, that I subscribe to, and the values of religious thought, not just Islam but also Christianity, are not compatible. You can pretend like they are, but they are not. Putting the 2 and 2 together results in a contradiction so big that I do not need a medical doctor to understand that one can not hold both ideas unless one has some sort of dual personality.
The main and IMO the thing that will destroy the left is the desire to make rationality and sentiment/ religious based beliefs work. It does not work no matter how much you try because they come from fundamentally different places. Most religious dogma comes from times when powerful man/ families did all they wanted and wrote the book while social justice comes from overcoming just that. To put them together is to fail but definition. One has to understand that one can not tell the truth or be rational while also not offending.
The right wing/ conservatives is not irrational by definition. The far wright is. Do not mix the two. A republican is not the same thing as a trumpist no more then a leftist is a social justice warrior. Both sides developed an extreme version; the right did it long ago, the left more recently. Both extremes are defined in the same way: a complete inability to accept different opinions and the judgment of those that have different opinions as broken/ evil/ etc.
I have no idea what "neoliberalism" is but it seems to me like a euphemism for "I did not know" so I get angry about it.
The very nature of a free market and liberalism is that even in times of crisis, you, as a normal citizen, can make the best of it. Want a couple of examples?
1) During the Pandemic you were smart enough to understand that companies selling disinfectants we going to make a lot of money, in the West, you had the freedom to buy stocks to these companies;
2) during the times of war, same thing, you understand more munition was needed; you can buy companies that do that.
Point is, in an open market any and all people can get a piece of the pie. If you or I can not be bothered to learn or try, then ok. Capitalism gives opportunities, not guaranties.
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