It's like being with Madrid fans. Player hits a bad patch after his best ever season and he's completely lost it
What a bunch of retarded muppets.
What a bunch of retarded muppets.
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To be fair, I think we can all agree on that
At the moment yes. It's complete nonsense to right off his career here just like that though.
You just know that if we sold him he would get back to his best and the muppets would be in uproar.
Read your post again. This time paying attention to the words.
He'd look worse in a weaker team
Don't have a clue what you are talking about. You highlighted 'having nothing left to offer' and said you agreed :?
I give up.
Well not if he got back in form, which is what I said.
Definitely showing nothing at the moment to say that he should be starting over Nani. Bit ruthless seeing some of the comments about him, though. There's still a quality player in there somewhere that isn't necessarily gone for good. Looks a huge crisis of confidence admittedly but he's been a quality and classy player for this club and doesn't deserve any real scorn.
Hehe. There's something not right here.
I haven't got a leg to stand on.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh 
He doesn't give good head either.
I thought it was his best game in ages.
I thought he had an okay game to be honest. It does crack me up though when he decides to run around in a circle with the ball, using only his right foot of course, when he doesn't know what to do.
In all likelihood he just needs a run of games to get the half yard of pace back, and then build up his confidence a bit. Trouble is, not sure he deserves the games, though he might get some when we rest Rafael.
He treats the ball like an alien object. He's fallen off the scale completely, it's unbelievable how shit he has become.
He's had this all season! Up until a month ago he was still a nailed on starter when fit.
I think one of the reasons he is still starting is Rafael. They work well together.
Sacrificed himself for the team.
He's been in and out of the team, for a variety of reasons. You're right he's had the chance and needs to do more, but I'm talking about a proper long run of games. That he has not had this season... As I say, partly because he doesn't deserve it.
It's time to rest Valencia, he has had his chance, and unleash MJ on the right wing.
Yeah, Rafael attacks and defends, Valencia claps at him to give encouragement.
Yeah I think Tony should probably be primarily backup for Rafael at the moment. You would hope that would incentivise him to sort himself out, think he needs to.
Very poor in the first half but I thought he was fantastic at right back. Did a far better job than Jones.
It's only recently that Valencia has been a little in and out of the team but before that he got a good long run of games. He started 11 games in a row until the Wigan game away.
They do? This season?
Valencia really has been a shadow of himself this season, I don't think we've been brilliant down our right at all, if anything Rafael has been the only good thing about it, not some beautiful partnership.
Agreed, played a few lovely dinks at RB too.
I didn't say it was beautiful. It does however seem to work very well. They are both able to play in each others position so can cover for each other well.
It's a bit of a myth that Rafael and Valencia work well and even more of a myth that Valencia has been covering for Rafael and done a good defensive job this season. Sure he's done a bit of decent defensive work off late but for most of the season he's been not tracking back or defending much and everything good down the right has been almost all off it down to Rafael. He'd link up equally well, if not better, with Nani.
Fair enough. It hasn't worked well at all for me though this season, we've been nowhere near enough of a threat on the wings. Our wing play has been pitiful for the most part imo.
Ironically it has been our midfield combining with our forwards to get us through games this season while our wingers have been poor (with the odd cameo).
That's just picking and choosing what you see, Nani is not good defensively. Running around abit doesn't mean that he is. Valencia knows how to press properly and good positional discipline.
I agree he knows how to do it but I'm just saying he hasn't really done it much this season.
I can't really remember any team having joy down our right side this season? Maybe Chelsea for abit but Hazard is an exceptional player. I don't think that's all down to Rafael. He isn't that good 
first half he was crap, but thought he linked up well with Nani in the second half
I can't really remember any team having joy down our right side this season? Maybe Chelsea for abit but Hazard is an exceptional player. I don't think that's all down to Rafael. He isn't that good
Being a decent second right back is not really good enough though, is it? He is bang out of form.
Valencia was fantastic at RB.
What Nate said. We know Valencia's quality but it's just not there right now.
Honestly, I think he's struggling to adapt to this new style that we are beginning to see. It started at the beginning of last season. I don't think his speed of thought has been up to the standard of some of the other attacking players. Doesn't mean he's not a good player. More so just a different type of player and a more limited one.
Honestly, I think he's struggling to adapt to this new style that we are beginning to see. It started at the beginning of last season. I don't think his speed of thought has been up to the standard of some of the other attacking players. Doesn't mean he's not a good player. More so just a different type of player and a more limited one.
Only saw the last 30 minutes but thought it was the best I'd seen him all season.
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