He slows down the play so much, then does the whole turn back and pass to whoever is behind him act, and by this point the opposition are all back behind the ball.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He will probably be given a 8 year contract....on a serious note it seems he doesn't have the technique to cross a ball!!!
The few times he had space on the counter, he delivered some terrible crosses
Don't know how much worse he needs to get before being substituted. Some dreadful crosses and spent a lot of the game standing still when he should've made runs off the ball.
I swear at times the defender ahead of him didn't even attempt to close him down, they simply stood still, guarding the space directly ahead of Valencia, which meant he would just turn around and pass back.
He's an embarrasment. Fergie's love for him is just wrong, simple as that. Wouldnt get into the likes of Wigan's first XI.
Yet still gets 90 minutes, while the likes on Nani and Kagawa continue to be subbed, or not even played. Unbelievable.
Yet still gets 90 minutes, while the likes on Nani and Kagawa continue to be subbed, or not even played. Unbelievable.
The one to nani near the end was the worst. He didn't even look.
I wonder why Fergie is leaving him on when is clearly having a shocker? Is it to try and let him play out of this bad patch he is in? Because if it is, then it is not working.
What a crock of shit.
Needs to keep this good run of form going, he's going to be massive for us next season.
I think he'll be sold in the summer. This is not a bad run, he's just been worked out by every defender in the land.
Take on your man ffs. He seemed to be getting better against Villa and now he is back to shit again.
Don't think we can call this a 'patch' any more. Just gotta hope the break does him good and he comes back at his best. Not going to happen this season.
He is excellent defensively and that is the most important for a winger. Except it isn't.
Forget about this season. Lets see what he's like when he has the summer off and makes a fresh start next season. He deserves the chance to recapture his form from his previous seasons.
His crossing is absolutely appalling.
Do explain...
He had a good game against Villa and there were some flashes here but his crossing was awful today. That's my problem with Valencia, if he's not putting in a decent ball he's not offering much in attack. He rarely looks to run in behind or drift and he can't come inside. I don't think he'll go and don't think he should but I really think he gets more time when having a poor game than a lot of other players do.
He did, successfully, several times. It all went to shit after that of course.
I think some of you have repressed the memory of just how bad he has been at times this season if you think that was back to his worst.
It's unbelievable how terrible he is and yet plays 90 mins week in week out. Nani was our best winger yet again today and got taken off while this guy just stays on to put in one woeful cross after another.
It's definitely more than a patch, it's a whole season where he's been off form.
But people have had poor seasons before and bounced back. Hope he does because Valencia at his best is a beast.
Given his attitude to the club, contracts etc and what we've seen only just last season, it really makes zero sense to sell him. We should definitely keep him on and hopefully he will find his form again after the pre-season, I just don't think we should be playing him now at all.
Don't you think it's strange that it took them half a decade to figure out how to defend against him when he's been playing the same, simple game since he came to England?
That has to be one of the most stupid things I've read in this forum. Have a word with yourself
It's incredible how he's immune to the subs bench every week. I mean how do Rooney, Nani and Rafael come off before him when he's put in one of the worst attacking displays many of us will ever see?
Crossing was embarrassing. He refuses to run with the ball unless there is an acre of space in front of him and he only uses the left side of his body to handle the ball. I'm all for giving people time, patience, second chances etc but sometimes you've got to suck it up and just take the useless bugger off.
The league might be won, but right now there are plenty of players desperate for game time.
Crossing was embarrassing. He refuses to run with the ball unless there is an acre of space in front of him and he only uses the left side of his body to handle the ball. I'm all for giving people time, patience, second chances etc but sometimes you've got to suck it up and just take the useless bugger off.
The league might be won, but right now there are plenty of players desperate for game time.
There is no problem with Nani being inconsistent, every team has several inconsistent players. The problem is that people look at Nani as someone who has to perform at Ronaldo's level to be "useful" but it isn't true.
If we have a consistent winger on the other side who performs at a very high level then Nani will be the perfect winger for us. When he shines he can destroy any defense in the world on his own, when he doesn't we still have a consistent outlet on the opposite wing.
As Nani even at his worst gets an assist/goal almost every game he plays as long as we show confidence in him and sign his wanted contract.
He was terrific last season at Emirates too. 
Bad run of form since his injury. Let's see what next season brings after a preseason. Some of you have short-term memories like goldfish.
He was terrific last season at Emirates too.
He was terrific in a lot of games last season. Which is why selling him would make no sense.
He deserves a chance to bounce back.
Does it need to be explained? You're suggesting he wouldn't get in the Wigan team. You should stick to pissing your pants about Utd only holding a 13 point lead going into the last 5 games of the season. You're still talking shit but it's easier to laugh at you.
1 step forward, 2 steps back...
Everyone acknowledges the situation, most don't understand why he's playing 90 minutes every single week whilst being in horrible form. Regardless of the injury, it's extremely difficult to understand how he's getting 90 minutes of football every single week when players like Nani Kagawa Cleverley and Welbeck are in and out even if they put in a top class performance.
Right now, as a winger, he is awful. Absolutely woeful.
Why is it beyond the realms of possibility that he wouldnt get into the Wigan team on this form? Just because he is a Manchester United player, that does not give him a divine right thats means he's automatically better then players playing for 'lesser' clubs.
Yeah that's what gets me, honestly think he's had more poor/ineffective games this season then the likes of Nani have over a couple of seasons and he still gets 90 mins consistently.
This is absolutely new.
Because Wigan are terrible.
On this form, I dont think thats a ridiculous suggestion. Is he playing better then Malony or Mcmanaman at Wigan right now?...Just because he's a Manchester United player, doesnt automatically make him better.
So is Valencia (right now).
He really seems to be the kind of player who picks an area to try and cross the ball rather than a player. He's always seemed that way. But now he's picking out the wrong area by a mile. Maybe he should try to aim before the penalty spot so that his cross actually goes into the box and not over it.
I can understand the back problem he mentioned causing him discomfort and affecting his game a bit, but definitely not when crossing the ball. He has no excuse for that.
I can understand the back problem he mentioned causing him discomfort and affecting his game a bit, but definitely not when crossing the ball. He has no excuse for that.
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