Not ruling him out yet but we're in bother if he doesn't start to perform this season. He's not with €95m though. We've got to stop spending this ridiculous money on players like this. Fair enough if Ten Hag wanted him but once those numbers are quoted then we simply must say no thank you.
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- Goals
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Antony only turned 23 in February. Are we thinking he’s got no chance of improving any aspects of his game?
I’m sorry but hes not going to improve enough to justify his feeMahrez was about 24 when he exploded in that title season with Leicester.
I'd take justifying his ability as a Prem footballer at this point, he's never going to live up to that fee.
Who fecking cares about the fee? Did it come out of your pocket? It’s such a facile argument. Antony got 8 goals last season, what’s a return in goals and assists that justifies your imaginary valuation? It’s tedious.
Wasn't this all very, very clear before we even signed him? That entire transfer thread was fecking insane. People were wanking themselves silly over one of the most underwhelming highlight reals for a winger I'd ever seen.
It was like watching a group of people masturbating to granny porn, and trying to convince everyone else how great it is. Almost dystopian.
Yes it came out of my pocket when ticket prices, memberships, match day expenses, all went up.
People forget that Ten Hag wanted Gakpo but the club wouldn't pay the quoted price.
We overpaid for Antony because they dropped the ball with Gakpo and ran out of time to get an alternative.
This isn't a Ten Hag issue, he wanted a cheaper and better player, the club let him down.
We overpaid for Antony because they dropped the ball with Gakpo and ran out of time to get an alternative.
This isn't a Ten Hag issue, he wanted a cheaper and better player, the club let him down.
Needs to be dropped. All the talk about "earning your place" will fall flat if he still starts games.
He's playing with someone with twice his experience who is throwing a strop because of being played "out of position" and someone with even less experience than he has. Not necessarily making excuses but let's review what he can do once we get someone who gives a shit for him to link up with
I remember him looking decent towards the end of last season. He’s definitely better than what he performed yesterday
Hopefully he can develop a right foot of some kind.
Valencia never developed a left foot in all his time. Being one footed isn't the problem - if your plan A is good enough to deliver the goods. Loads of good or even great players were hideously one footed, but they were still undefendable because their other qualities overwhelmingly great.
Antony is hideously one footed and has no elite qualities. That's the problem.
He might not have amazing end product but I think EtH really values his pressing ability above much else. Perhaps he will perform somewhat better when Højlund enters. But we really overpaid at the end of day.
prices went up because we spent money in our transfer budget? Sometimes the bedwetting on here is unbelievable.
Will probably be the signing that ETH lives and dies on.
the main surprise for me is that he was able to become a professional footballer and be so one footed. My weaker foot is stronger than his weaker foot and I believe that. I am Sunday league.
At best he is a Championship level player.
the main surprise for me is that he was able to become a professional footballer and be so one footed. My weaker foot is stronger than his weaker foot and I believe that. I am Sunday league.
At best he is a Championship level player.
Valencia had pace. That was his quality. He was very one dimensional also.
Nothing wrong with being one footed, but even good players can atleast pass or cross with their weaker foot, even Giggsy developed a right foot.
Edit. I get your point though
EtH would have ideally wanted taken both but when the Antony got expensive we could afford 1 and EtH chose the one who he preferred also who played in a position of need.
Not necessarily making excuses then proceeds to make a excuse. Was only half kidding that you genuinely think every problem at the club is somehow linked to Rashford but starting to think you might actually believe that. Seriously lad who hurt you when it comes to Rashford? You have to let it go at some point.
He was but he was also hard to shake off the ball when he had it. Tough as old boots was Tony and a much underrated player.
Coupled with strength. At his best he was a predictable but quite unstoppable machine down the right.
I reckon in his 300+ games here, he used his left in double digit numbers to kick a ball. I don't think that's a major problem.
Oh totally. Would take a prime Valencia right now for sure
He needs to be dropped. Let him fight for his place.
Yesh, what a shit thing it is when a United player does not score, relieved slmost
And a warriors heart. Admiration for him on that regard.
There are cases where that's justified. But this clearly isn't one of them. If we signed Haaland tomorrow Antony would still be a terrible passer/crosser/creator that can't beat a man.
With how people go on about the striker thing you would think he puts in dangerous crosses that just need a striker. Dare I say AWB crosses look more dangerous.
When I see Mitoma, it is what Antony was supposed to be. Have never seen him do what Mitoma did yesterday in the league.
That's because Mitoma has written his thesis on dribbling and Antony hasn't so he knows a lot more about dribbling
please bite
The turn around we would need for this guy to be classed as anywhere near exist is genuinely something I can’t think of a comparison for. Can anyone provide an example of a player being this bad then going on to be a real success?
I’m done holding out hope for this dross.
I’m done holding out hope for this dross.
Being a good player who can actually beat a fullback and actually be able to use his weaker foot would be a start. The odd few goals and assists isn’t enough, he needs to become a dangerously effective wide player in ALL phases of play not just the counter. He does not have it
One of the most braindead posts I have seen in over 10 years on the caf. Of course the fee matters. There's such a thing as a transfer budget, of which 80m is a massive portion to spend on a player that quite frankly isn't even looking worth 40m. Spending such a large sum and not getting a return on investment in terms of performance is a huge issue - I don't see how you can argue otherwise.
Wow
.Prime valencia would quite easily be our most effective attacker at the moment.
if he scores its 1-1 and the game is wide open. we could have won and he would have been one of the major factors. fine margins.
Has to go down as one of the worst signings in United history. Plenty of company, but I think he clears the rest of the list.
Yes and no. It matters mostly to smaller clubs who don't have a lot of money to spend. We spend hundreds of millions every summer. Our issue is that we have been buying average players for years, the problem isn't the fee itself. This is why we need a DoF.