To be honest each week we've got probably 12 of the 15 players (including subs) who are providing a sub 6/10 performance either in terms of effort or ability.
It doesn’t matter how quick he is over the first 10 yards. Any advantage that may give him is nullified when he proceeds to stand on the ball and attempt to beat his man a further 2-3 times before losing it. Or he doesn’t even try to beat his man at all and simply turns around and pass it back to the RB.
“I cannot believe I bought this lad, he only has one working leg! I knew I shouldn’t have gone in hard on those suspicious Amsterdam brownies before the negotiation. Any offers?”
Yeah, I think he's a potentially decent player in appalling form rather than an appalling player. I think the legal/personal issues have rocked his confidence massively.
Is he even that fast over first 10 yards. Don’t recall him beating his man too often with pace.
I'd absolutely kill to know the rationale. On what planet does going from 19k to 150-200k make sense? I will never understand the fecking logic.
Could also refuse to loan them…and refuse to play them. The player would then likely push for a move and accept less.
Love or hate Ineos, I genuinely think those days are done for now. Thank feck.
Therein lies the problem. If a player is frozen out, doesn’t play for 12 months and still happy to sit around collecting cash… that raises even more questions about any reports we might have had about his attitude.
Agreed. There's definitely a good player in there, hard to say if he's hit his ceiling, I'd be surprised if he had. Also his flaws seem so coachable (ie don't cut in every single fecking time), maybe it is just all time low confidence.
Frenkie de Jong got an even bigger jump from Ajax to Barcelona, and De Ligt got one similar to Antony. I have no idea why people are so fixated with his former salary. He was at a low paying club. Haaland was not paid with any relation to his salary at his former club when he joined City. It’s totally irrelevant.
Granted they’re not the ones finalising the deal but our scouts valued him at 25M and he’s performed accordingly to that figure.
Nicolas Pepe could be up there, but he's truly been woeful.
It’s not irrelevant, we had the power here. He’d have joined for a lot less. Offering him that much was a monumentally stupid decision, right in line with the way this club has operated for the last decade. Most of us knew we were getting mugged off at the time, the club was just once again desperate in the transfer market and we got taken advantage of. We grossly overpaid on the transfer fee and grossly overpaid on his salary, it’s just a massive feck up plain and simple.
Hindsight? Many of us were ringing the warning bells before he was signed. Here are some of my posts from the Antony transfer thread, just as one example:
*pat on the back *
How does it feel to be wrong, as usual?
After. The. Fact.
Well done for stating the obvious. Of course there's always a certain risk to spend massive money on an Eredivisie player who is unproven in the PL.
That's the whole point I was getting at! It's not a matter of being "captain hindsight" as the other poster alluded to. Anybody who was paying attention could've seen what was going on.
Again, well done then. *Pats on back*
I did say we're paying a ton of money for a player who may not come good, but that's not the point I was addressing. You're essentially making my entire point for me.
You didn't answer my question...I did say we're paying a ton of money for a player who may not come good, but that's not the point I was addressing. You're essentially making my entire point for me.
Other poster: "Hindsight is 20/20, nobody knew this transfer wouldn't have worked out"
Me: "Not true, it was obvious to many posters that this transfer would've been a huge risk"
You: "Way to state the obvious! Of course this transfer was risky!"
Agreed. Waste of time this is. It's just silly bigging yourself up.
For me the initial acceleration is the most important thing for a dribbler who wants to take people on, think of someone like Hazard - explosive over the first 10-20metres but won't be winning any 100m races. Antony just doesn't have that though, he's not got amazing acceleration or top speed.
They are likely hoping Dave Brailsford reads the Caf so they can try for a job next season.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/antony-official-manchester-united-player.472751/post-29411846
