The same time he also swapped Keith Gillespie + money for Andy Cole, and Gillespie was probably a highly rated youngster in the league at the time and the deal including his services and cash was a British record at the time. Newcastle quickly became main rivals for the title and at one point they had 12 points more than United, so very risky from SAF indeed. But worth a title in the end, and who knows, maybe with Sancho and Antony at wings, we would have "The Entertainers" no.2 in Premier League.
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I was only 8 or 9 at the time, but I remember my dad being absolutely furious that we were letting Gillespie go.
I assume the club made some promises to Antony at the start of the window in relation to what they’d accept for him if another bid came in. He’s now upset as they are yet again playing hard ball and going back on it.
The only explanation really for how he is behaving.
I think they will hold the Anthony announcement until after the Southampton match in case we lose to put a positive spin on things.
Bingo. They're probably delaying it too so that people don't expect further signings. The propaganda, fake news and distraction leaks from the Glazers are worse than Trump/Biden in the US.
Rather than announcing before the game, like they did with Casemiro. If the deal is done, it's more likely before (today), or waiting for a stock market day
It was down to the foreign player rule, Gillespie being northern Irish they needed to swap him for an English forward (Cole of course). We already had Kanchelskis. Ferguson tried to buy him back when Kanchelskis left not too long after. In the same way as Gaza, would have had a much better career if he had of been under Fergusons wing.
This would have been done if we had lost on Monday, now it’ll drag into next week to distract everyone from making other much needed signings. This club is so transparent.
Nothing is held back from our side. We are waiting for Ajax to settle their replacement I think
Do you just make conspiracies for fun?
Great posts, Ajax guys.
You have every right to defend your position and state you're not here for our indulgence.
If a club came sniffing around a star player of ours at the end of a transfer window, we'd be the exact same.
You have every right to defend your position and state you're not here for our indulgence.
If a club came sniffing around a star player of ours at the end of a transfer window, we'd be the exact same.
People actually believed that. I'm astonished.
It's quite funny really
Sometimes.
So much 'confidence', such little action.
Story of my life.
Story of my life.
True, but Ajax knows he wants out from the beginning of the window. It was let late because we had other targets to get done, but this was always going to happen. No one should be surprised.
Thats just not true
Keith leaving had nothing to do with the poxy 3 man rule, as remember Uefa's regulations decreed that clubs could field only three foreign players plus two "assimilated" players who had come through their youth set-up which Keith did, and as for him "having" a better career under Fergie, you have no way of proving that as, hmm Lee Sharpe, Fergie couldn't control his party lifestyle, just like he couldn't with Yorkie either hence why both were shown the door, so to say he would have thrived under Fergie is madness gone mad.
He was let leave due to Beckham's rising in Fergie's eyes, and don't forget just 10 months later a ruling came in by the EU not little UEFA in terms of those two, in stopping that 3 player ruling, which was deemed a breach of the 1992 Maastricht treaty and saw the end of it with the Bosman ruling Dec 95.
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It is though. For attack, he was our main target. It's been written about since the day ETH took over.
Vdg was the most solid keeper we had during the dark ages between Schmeichel and VDS.
I'm quite sure there were articles which cooled our interest in between
Its quite obvious were trying to work on a replacement asap but Chelsea are making things rather difficult.
I don't think so, not for attacking options. From the beginning he was nr. 1 but attention was moved to defense and midfield. Us going hard for Antony is the least surprising thing this summer.
Gillespie was a troubled lad. I think Fergie knew he had crazy potential but he had to get away from here to try and fulfil it.
Yip seems so, but United fecked it up a bit by leaving it so late. Compare this with when Madrid bought Bale - Spurs bought half of Europe before the transfer went through.
I was watching a documentary Rise of the Premier league just yesterday and its a sad story really. Gillespie said he still has a gambling problem and it was obvious how regretful he looked while waching his old videos.
As Martial struggles to stay fit, adding him as soon as possible is vital.
Also, I agree and understand the frustration of Ajax fans. But what constitutes a big reason for this issue, is that they've lost a lot of players this summer. Antony was linked with United and ETH from day one so pretending like it came out of nothing is not fair. If it's too late, then fair enough, but it was always going to be like this. Look on the bright side, it can be one of the most expensive transfers ever.
https://www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/...-on-his-man-utd-career-during-mutv-group-chat
try be a little less arrogant in your response. Keith himself has a different view and if Fergie was in any way swayed by Beckham coming through he wouldn’t have tried to buy Gillespie back.
Finally, it’s no beyond the pale to say that a great man manager such as Ferguson, who was famed for knowing how to handle players between professional and personal challenges, would have been a positive influence on the careers of those players. Your examples of Yorke and Sharpe are just odd and not comparable as they had great careers with Utd. They struggled once they left. You are in a club of one with a view that troubled players possibly thriving under Ferguson is “madness gone mad” - Cantona would like a word.
it’s one thing being wrong…but you did it in such an arrogant and emphatic way. A bit embarrassing for you that.
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Is that why we enquired about the likes of Morata and Arnautovic?
I think whats become evident is there is money left given Frenkie will not happen, and they have very lately decided that should now go toward Antony. Ajax and their fanbase are rightly aggrieved by that.
If Frenkie became a goer it would happen over Antony. But we would not be doing both.
A €100m striker would be needed even more than Antony, seeing as Martial looks incapable of staying fit. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any available. We do need Antony too though obviously.
I don't know about the Morata stuff nor Arnautovic. IMO they were most likely just discussions that agents decided to make public but little more.
Look, we didn't get de Frenkie, but we got Casemiro for big money; so we can't say that money was not spent and then decided to go for Antony. IMO, we tried to get defense and mid done first and then attack. The Frenkie transfer most likely set us back in terms of timing for sure, but it is what it is. The money was clearly there for both the expensive mid and attacker. We got Berbatov on the las day FFS so it's not like these things don't happen. Antony was a prime target from the day ETH took over and we, and Ajax fans, know it.
Osimhen is there, and i think he would cost around 100m.
However, i would rather Antony for 100m and Memphis on a free, because we need numbers as well as quality. Once Ronaldo leaves next season, we can focus on a big money striker.
what do you mean? I’m well aware he made the assumption
If we get Antony, Rashford just plays up top till Maritial is fit. Sancho is better on the left I reckon anyway. Not ideal…but better than Ronny starting up top.
Yep, I like your thinking.
Need an update from Mike about that meeting.
@BluesJr also believes in Aliens
They weren't. Whitwell confirmed Morata was pursued but we walked away over the price. Arnautovic bid was reported across Athletic/BBC etc. That's not agent talk.
Is the meeting still going on?
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