Dybala, Higuain/Aguero/Icardi, Di Maria aren't worse than Coutinho, Suarez and Dembele.
I think he'll be back for Copa America so will probably return for the March friendlies next year.
They haven't, but they have clearly been below their club form. Why do you think that happens?
The international game and the club game is different. Different coaches, different systems, players might not be compatible with each other, not enough chemistry, there is also a different kind of pressure you deal with especially for a team like Argentina.
They don't need to play together though, they need one of their three world class strikers to play world class football.
Instability regarding the constant changes of managers, wrong lineups, unbalance between attacking options to normal midfield options, to even worse fullback options (except Tagliafico) and to have Romero as a keeper option isn't even debatable. But true they are still underperforming. Ffs we won a final with Éder scoring the winner.
Kun was actually o.k in the world cup when he was allowed to play.
They aren't worse players obviously, but they sure do perform a lot worse with Argentina.
Their biggest problem is by far the system in which they've played in the past 2/3 years, not lack of quality of their players. We were good enough to win the Euros because we played football that made sense for the players we had in the squad at the time. You can tell now that with the likes of Cancelo and Ruben Neves coming in we're already playing differently.Instability regarding the constant changes of managers, wrong lineups, unbalance between attacking options to normal midfield options, to even worse fullback options (except Tagliafico) and to have Romero as a keeper option isn't even debatable. But true they are still underperforming. Ffs we won a final with Éder scoring the winner.
If they are not used they hardly will perform. And when they are used expecting them to be the new Evita Perón to bailout Argentina is always the same drama. No wonder even players like Messi struggle when you see how Dybala or Icardi are misjudged by the media or fans.
Argentina had a much better squad at the start of the decade though and that is reflected in their 3 lost finals (World Cup, 2 x Copa America). All three were lost in ET/Penalties so it shows how close Messi did come to a title. Ronaldo had a wondergoal from Eder to thank while Messi saw Higuain miss one gilt edge chance all three finals, sometimes luck just doesn't go your way.
If you look at Argentina strikers post Crespo and Batigol, so many have failed. Tevez has only 13 goals in 70+ games. Milito always looked like a fish out of water. Dybala, Icardi etc failing just seems to be following a familiar pattern.
If we had won it in 2012 instead of 2016, I think a lot of people would look at it very differently.
In 2012 we had a good Moutinho, Pepe, Coentrão and Nani. We lost the semifinal against Spain on Penalties. The Spain of Guardiola and a few days after they won the final by 4:0. So this constant excuse that Messi never won nothing because Higuain missed goals and Ronaldo was lucky because Éder scored a goal its a myth.
The reason why I'm bringing up Eder is because Ronaldo had very little to do with Portugal in the knockout stages. He was brilliant the group stages, no doubt, but he got injured early in the final and generally was poor in the knockout stages.
How is it a myth? Eder scored the winner, didn't he? Higuain missed two absolute sitters in the ending stages of each of the two Copa America finals, is that wrong as well? Luck has alot to do with football and it's understated. Using only trophies as an indicator that Ronaldo has done better than Messi on the international stage is ignoring the circumstaces IMO. I'm not saying Messi has done better, but there are more ways to look at this argument.
We got lucky in 2016, but we got unlucky in the way we got knocked out in plenty of previous tournaments. 2004, 2006, 2008, 2012... even in the last WC, Uruguay went to our goal twice and scored two goals.
Not turning this into the entire Messi vs Ronaldo thread which is a bit tiring and useless by itself. By the way I think Messi is the best Barcelona player ever. And possibly the best from the last 25 years. But he definitely wasn't better for Argentina than Maradona.
Agree.
2004 Scolari was tactically inept vs Rehagel, in 2006 France scored early and imo the team wasn't at the same level as in 2004. 2008 we played well against Germany and they had a good tournament, must be said it was a good Germany but not as strong as the teams between 2010 to 2016 imo.
That's on the money I reckon. Additionally, I think it's a case of lot of their best players wanting to operate in the same general areas of the pitch. However, with Messi in the team they're all either playing out of position to accommodate him and each other or not featuring in the starting XI at all.
Spanish press says multiple trauma...
Appalling journalism.
The thing is for Argentina’s standards, this generation is pretty bad. Look at the Argentina WC squads of 98 or 2002. Messi is the only one who would make those sides.
Lo Celso would make it in too and Aguero on club form. Tagliafico maybe as well.
Patricio better than Romero.