Every argument against them is completely stupid. At the end of the day, AFTV serves as a mirror for what goes on at Arsenal, and what has been going on for ages. Arsenal have been sliding into mediocrity for years, their fans booed Eboue before AFTV so that shows that the extent of the negativity from their fans has been present for years. Do AFTV profit off of Arsenal doing worse? Yes. Does Robbie make the most out of certain situations? Yes. But guess what, that is only made possible by Arsenal being garbage for years. If they weren't, then these types of videos wouldn't come out, and in fact when they had a good run last season it was all pretty positive. This whole anger directed towards them is so wasted, all it does is breed more toxicity and deflects away from the institutional problems their club has. On top of all of that, it is a myth they only project the negative views of a few characters. Yes they have regulars, but they do loads more fan cams and do some really interesting insights into foreign supporter bases when they are away in Europe for instance. I'm don't even watch them much anymore, I don't support Arsenal and I personally find AFTV a bit boring now, but they are still more than entitled to do what they do and all this shows is that the media vilification of them has worked.
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You're right in what you say but how has the media villified them? I think the biggest issue that people are having with this whole sorry affair is how AFTV are playing the victim here when they've been carrying out witch hunts for years. If those fans had been chanting against the owners, manager or players, we wouldn't be having this discussion...and Robbie would have probably portrayed them as passionate, true fans. But because it was against him and his channel they're thugs?
I don't see how AFTV can object to fans chanting against them when they've been chanting, booing their own players, getting banners out at the ground for years? Nobody (or no sane person anyway) is questioning Robbie's right to do what he's doing, which he is doing pretty well. But some humility, self awareness and reflection would serve him well before it blows up. Calling those fans 'thugs' and demanding that they be driven out the club that they probably love just as much as him was a bit out of order and has probably wound them up even more.
There are new faces if you actually look at the channel, not only that they even allow the oversea one to have voice & opinion as well.
People like these are only watching 1-3 videos and ignoring the other videos.
Not every fans want to be interviewed anyway. In fact, what I realise here is that most of the fans actually the one who go to AFTV because they want to express what they think. Funny enough is that Claude mentioned that he got rejected by Talksport to have his voice before he went to AFTV. AFTV accept anyone even if some people considered them “dickheads”.
There are fans who are negative and there are fans who are positive. It’s common, look at this forum.
Arsenal have become shit that some people who always positive are now disappearing from AFTV for example that Chris because if he shows up it will make himself look like a clown to be positive when there is no positivity in arsenal right now. Even the guy named TY few time didn’t want to show himself when they lost frequently.
AFTV represents the voice of the fans who want to express their opinion in public, if that guy want to express his opinion about Arsenal then go to AFTV after the game and im sure he will be interviewed.
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What utterly inane points of view. Arsenal's performances have made Arsenal a laughing stock, not AFTV. AFTV aren't the ones continually getting turned over by Liverpool and City or allowing Spurs to overtake them. With good results, there isn't any ammunition for negative videos, but that obviously isn't the case. Regardless, even positive characters like Ty are getting views and are laughed at. Not sure how you can refer to these guys as "Robbie and his cronies" when he's doing simply broadcasting fans' opinions yet you have Arsenal fans attempting to physically provoke him. If a recognized broadcaster received the abuse he was given at Goodison, everyone would be in outrage, but for some reason, it's fine to act this way towards actual match going fans broadcasting content.
Imagine football fans advocating for other football fans' voices to be silenced. Braindead opinions are rife.
The fan who tried to physically provoke Robbie deserves to get his head kicked in if he tries that again.
And you have the cheek to call other people braindead
What is braindead about hoping someone gets what they deserve for physically provoking someone else?
However, it is hypocrisy for a fan giving his/her opinion to hope another fan giving their opinion is silenced. Surely even you can see the difference.
People really lost their fecking mind when it comes to this subject or?
How on earth you can see a fan channel as a reason why X club is doing poorly or better yet, blaming a fan channel for club being a joke, thats not on owners and other decision makers, no no, its on a fan channel.
Another thing is thinking that certain fans voicing their views represent whole or section of fan base, yet to see anyone of those regulars claiming such a thing, always thought its a opinion of X person in that very moment. Watched video on United stand of that agenda guy and his opinion about Pogba, there wasnt a moment where i thought that he represents anyone else but himself there.
Claiming how fan channels uploading videos only with their regulars, when in reality you can go and check their videos list, plenty of randoms out there week in week out. Guess anyone who wants to say something in front of camera can do it and it would be uploaded, doubt fan channels blocking certain views, they wouldnt dare, would be called out on the spot and through social media.
Finally, is there any proof that those channels doing better numbers wise in total when they lose. Sure, rivals visiting more after negative result but i would guess after positive results more fans of that club checking out those videos.
How on earth you can see a fan channel as a reason why X club is doing poorly or better yet, blaming a fan channel for club being a joke, thats not on owners and other decision makers, no no, its on a fan channel.
Another thing is thinking that certain fans voicing their views represent whole or section of fan base, yet to see anyone of those regulars claiming such a thing, always thought its a opinion of X person in that very moment. Watched video on United stand of that agenda guy and his opinion about Pogba, there wasnt a moment where i thought that he represents anyone else but himself there.
Claiming how fan channels uploading videos only with their regulars, when in reality you can go and check their videos list, plenty of randoms out there week in week out. Guess anyone who wants to say something in front of camera can do it and it would be uploaded, doubt fan channels blocking certain views, they wouldnt dare, would be called out on the spot and through social media.
Finally, is there any proof that those channels doing better numbers wise in total when they lose. Sure, rivals visiting more after negative result but i would guess after positive results more fans of that club checking out those videos.
Nobody is saying they are the cause of all of their woes? Why is this always being pointed out?
We have Arsenal players themselves describe how much influence AFTV have on the dressing room and their fand are sick of it.
Argue all you want but it is a factor and an avoidable factor at that.
Fans here are wishing, with glee, that Arsenal get trounced every week so we can view their reactions. Thats just fact.
Its the entire we represent match going fans that the match going fans are rallying against. Thats the voice youre mocking and trying to villify if you think about it.
Robbie literally came out and asked to get those fans banned. Hyproricy at its finest
Someone around Arsenal should earn their money, if not the players, managers or other employees then why not some of the fans? 
People (including AFTV) are conveniently choosing to ignore this. How many people even think about tuning in to United Stand, FullTime Devils, Redmen TV, Blues TV, and all the other fan channels whenever those teams lose?? I'm guessing not many. Arsenal are by no means one of the most successful clubs today but AFTV became the most popular fan channel because of all the ranting and raving, not it's quality content. That is an undeniable fact. 'AFTV and Chill' is actually becoming a thing and like it or not Arsenal fans are becoming a bit of a laughing stock.
Except that's just it. This is the quality content. The weekly Troopz rant, the Jafaican catchphrases, the dimwit Laurel and Hardy pairing of Claude and Ty, the Blood Bruvvas show. AFTV is youtube's Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer. Sports journalism's Arnab Goswami. The love island of soccer.
Yeah, looking at it that way, you're probably right.
Its not quality for you, but its for many people. Arsenal fan tv is bigger than any fan tv because they have the best personalities. the chelsea, Man Utd, and spurs guys are just dry. Also they have the most likable host of any fan tv. Also how do fans become laughing stock? You think fans seek respect from other fans? Most real football fans can relate to the guys on their, its only stuck up posh people who looks down on these fans
The first bold point is complete horseshite. How is that any different from the abuse players get on social media or even this forum? Why is spouting shit on a forum alright but not ok on a Youtube channel? Absolutely arbitrary double standard there. Secondly, fans hoping Arsenal get trounced to view AFTV applies to opposing fans, who aren't rooting for Arsenal regardless, so again that is a moot point. Fans can not like AFTV but I'm speaking more about the physical intimidation and mob mentality. What I saw in the video was pure cowardice. Nothing was constructive and the sole purpose was to agitate. Where I'm from you will catch a fade behaving like that. Lastly, he asked them to get banned because they were attempting to physically provoke and intimidate him not because they disagreed. It's almost like you aren't even following along.
Liverpool fans are perceived in a certain way by rival fans. United fans are perceived as entitled, plastic glory hunters, City fans are perceived in a certain way too. Most sets of fans, well the larger clubs anyway are generally portayed in a certain way by rivals. Arsenal fans are no different. So I don't know why you and others are getting so precious about it. Those guys may be 'personalities' if you want to label them as such now but there's no denying that that the rise of AFTV was down to the notoriety of their ranting and ranting. They've just cashed in on that notoriety to make a name for themselves and fair play to them. Perhaps that what the in-house protesting is all about, they're probably jealous. But it doesn't change the fact that if they want to chant "Arsenal Fan TV, get out of our club" at every game, they're perfectly entitled to do so. Robbie has no right to demand that they stop and be removed from the club.
It's classic elitism. The layman creates something successful and the snobs attempt to drive public sentiment against it. If these same snobs created AFTV I guarantee you we wouldn't hear a single word out of them. Funny thing is I understand the criticisms of AFTV but this Talksport "campaign" is rooted in nothing but snobbery.
I think you'll find that it's more a case of Robbie cannot comprehend how anyone would not love his AFTV service that he is providing for all his fellow Arsenal fans. They were rowdy and it probably looked worse being in a confined environment but they were just venting their displeasure at AFTV, which they are perfectly entitled to do. He even said that they shouldn't be chanting it in the stadium, which is just bullshit.
You are just hearing whatever you want to hear. He said on Talksport and on many videos that it's ok if people don't like AFTV, but obviously that isn't the point. If you look at the video posted you will see that he was physically pushed and that's where I am saying it crosses the line. Also, he made the point why are "supporters" coming to an away ground chanting at their supporters. What exactly is wrong with that line of thinking. I agree with him that it's lame and I didn't hear him say they should be thrown out of the ground because of it.
Arsenal fans are the worst for chanting at their own managers and players and some of his own 'regulars' have been some of the most vociferous in that regard. So why should AFTV be off limits? He even said in another video (can't remember where) that the situation looked worse on camera than it actually was. And he DID say that it wasn't right for fans to hurl abuse at AFTV at the stadium. You just seem to be excusing a lot of double standards on AFTV's part.
It'll be interesting to see what approach they take when things begin to go pear-shaped for Arteta, which I'm pretty sure it will.
You sure are having trouble following along.
This is what I responded to (banning) and I just said I agreed with Robbie about fans hurling abuse at AFTV at the stadium. Not sure what imaginary double standards you're on about.
Again, I never said they were off-limits. What I did say fans attempting to physically intimidate and provoke AFTV are cowards AND fans who share their opinion attempting or supporting the silencing of other fans sharing their opinions are hypocrites and braindead. Simple stuff to comprehend.
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talksport see them as rival. If all these fan channels goes off and and seek them for fan reaction rather than people calling in talksport then they will lose a lot of money.
Someone with video making skills please, please make a short clip of 5:45 to 6:05 in this video.
So is Robbie being blamed for Leno's mistake?
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Can't imagine they'll be too much unrest after that performance, shame
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The channel has an unparalleled success compared to the rest football fan channels. They lose, opposing fans are eagerly waiting for their 4-5 new videos. They win, opposing fans are eagerly waiting for their 4-5 new videos. Arsenal fans don't give a lot of feck I reckon.