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For sure.Great transfer window. Over 20m profit when everybody is on red, no doubt the fans are proud with this achievement.
For sure.Great transfer window. Over 20m profit when everybody is on red, no doubt the fans are proud with this achievement.
I'm sure they would have preferred to sign a player for 30 million (net), and have a valuable asset that they can re-sell, instead of losing a valuable asset for nothing.Arsenal: Not enough time to do the transfer.
Translation: We don't want to spend the money, but will pretend to have given it a try to appease the fans.
Never did understand why teams keep players who want to leave. Just Breeds discontent in the dressing room. I think this will be a really long season for asnl...Sell Van Persie and we get slaughtered for it
Resolve to keep Sanchez and we get slaughtered for it.
How do we find ourselves in these types of situations?
No back up right back at all, very little depth at center back and central midfield. What is Wenger going to do when injuries start to pile up and they will.
Unless the squad starts pulling together, then this could be a bumpy season.
Where do you think you'll finish in the league with the squad as it is?Sell Van Persie and we get slaughtered for it
Resolve to keep Sanchez and we get slaughtered for it.
How do we find ourselves in these types of situations?
No back up right back at all, very little depth at center back and central midfield. What is Wenger going to do when injuries start to pile up and they will.
Unless the squad starts pulling together, then this could be a bumpy season.
Sell Van Persie and we get slaughtered for it
Resolve to keep Sanchez and we get slaughtered for it.
How do we find ourselves in these types of situations?
No back up right back at all, very little depth at center back and central midfield. What is Wenger going to do when injuries start to pile up and they will.
Unless the squad starts pulling together, then this could be a bumpy season.
Sell Van Persie and we get slaughtered for it
Resolve to keep Sanchez and we get slaughtered for it.
How do we find ourselves in these types of situations?
No back up right back at all, very little depth at center back and central midfield. What is Wenger going to do when injuries start to pile up and they will.
Unless the squad starts pulling together, then this could be a bumpy season.
Never did understand why teams keep players who want to leave. Just Breeds discontent in the dressing room. I think this will be a really long season for asnl...
How much of the above do you put on Wenger's shoulders? I still find it hard to believe that he willingly sanctioned the move of RVP to United - regardless of what was printed in the media concerning the transfer. I find it even harder to believe that he's happy for Sanchez to join City, and Ox to join the dippers. Wenger is no fool and he's certainly not in the business or strengthening his rivals whilst significantly weakening his own team. Something is amiss here.
Are you sure the board are not trumping his authority and sanctioning these move with or without his approval?
Where do you think you'll finish in the league with the squad as it is?
Vieira wanted to leave for years, we kept him and won a bunch of trophies. Once the transfer window is shut and the football starts, then I trust Sanchez to be professional and get on with it.
On the one hand, people say that Wenger is like a dictator and its his fault that the club is riddled with such average players because he oversees every single aspect of the club and his word is law.
On the other hand there are rumors are that the likes of Gabriel, Elneny, Mustafi, Xhaka, Welbeck and Perez were signed without Wenger's approval and that is why he got rid of four of them, in some show of force.
Aside from hearsay, Nasri himself said that Wenger wanted to keep him, so the board clearly went over his head with that one. He's also come out and said that the club had to make a profit up to 2012/15, the year changes. There are also rumors that Kroenke is taking out loans using the club's assets as collateral.
There was also the time Park Chu Young came on at home against Man Utd at the same time that an Asian advertisement came up on the billboards.
Wenger himself constantly comes out with some cryptic messages at time to the effect that something happened behind the scenes and he will talk about it at one point.
I don't know what to make of it in all honesty but to my mind three things are possible. 1. Wenger is complicit with the board's actions, 2. They are going over his head but because of his love for the club he's decided to make the best of it and 3. Wenger has control of everything.
In a perfect world, third and above spurs. In reality 5th, 4th if we're lucky and don't have any major injuries. I want us to concentrate fully on Europa league but that won't happen and I can't see us getting past Ac Milan or Athletic Bilbao.
As I've said before, I think both are a result of you not selling the idea of success to your players. When Wenger's coming out and talking up finishing 4th as if it's a trophy, it's no wonder players start looking elsewhere.
In both situations you've ended up with key players reaching the final year of their contract, and inevitably find yourself fielding offers from domestic rivals. You could have sold van Persie with far less criticism had he gone abroad, but instead you sold him to us and we won the league almost as a result of how good he was for us. The criticism revolved entirely around how influential he was for us the season he signed.
With Sanchez, you're holding onto him almost solely because you failed to attract a suitable replacement. Again, you'd have received far less criticism if you'd kept him and brought in more quality to strengthen the squad during the window. Instead of it being a statement to other clubs about keeping your best players and aiming to become the best side in England, it's a case of "well we haven't got anyone else so you'll have to stay."
Had you scraped top 4 again last season I think the facade would have remained intact. As it is, everything's started to fall apart because you've spent far too long with far too little ambition, and have treated mediocre players as if they are worth more than they are.
I honestly don't get what they think they gain by keeping Sanchez. He very clearly wants out and will likely pout, or at the least not quite give his all, until January where he'll be sold for less than they were offered now or next summer where he'll leave for free.
In theory yes, I'm not convinced it'll quite work out that way though. He's been pouting since the end of last season, I really can't see him deciding to all of a sudden give his all for the cause.
Never did understand why teams keep players who want to leave. Just Breeds discontent in the dressing room. I think this will be a really long season for asnl...
It's not that crazy to expect a club to go to lengths to keep their best player(s).
Everton will finish ahead of Arsenal this season.
I don't know how Arsenal fans can cope with this. I'd have to separate myself from football for a while. This is not the first time they've come to deadline day looking disorganised. And frankly, I can't imagine this season will go any different for Arsenal than the last 6 or 7. Signs of life by late September/October, looking seriously good by November, only to be followed by a post-Christmas collapse. Groundhog day.
Post 4-0 Liverpool, Henry has been saying that match was a culmination of 10 years of decline etc, but I remember him defending Cazorla and Coquelin as potential title winning centre midfielders. Gaz has been talking about Arsenal not being contenders for a few years now. He's been calling it since before it's in vogue.
Reading this reminded me of Chunk confessing 'everything' to the Fratellis.Hey no matter what we at least got rid of Ox, who is easily my most hated player in the whole of my football-proper life (2012-present).
I don't wanna embark on a giant TLDR missive here so I'll say that Ox is a playet with a £50mil football body and a 50p foot all brain. The absolute epitomes of all things Ox are twofold:
1) in one of the 2014 world cup tune-up games for England Ox had a majestic ~60-75yd run across the field where he blew past countless defenders and showed his truly world/class pace as he glided like a gazelle across the field..... Only to promptly get to the edge of the opponent's box and immediateky hoof a pass/cross/something out of bounds ~15+ ft in the air and another ~10+ft wide of goal.
Then appx ~15mins later ox pulled up lame and managed to pull a calf or hammy or something and promptly missed the entire World Cup tournament as a result! #ThatsMyOx!
2) A few years ago in Arsenal's CL RO16 1st leg against Monaco despite Arsenal stopping short of Martin Tyler christening them "the more deserving side" (being on a great run of form that started with Coquelin's recall + breakout alongside Santi Cazorla in the midfield) Arsenal was typically Arsenal in not being to convert any of the endless waves of attack that they crashed down upon Monaco whilst Monaco clinically converted two rare counters to make the score Arsenal 0-2 Monaco heading into ST.
In the first minute of ST the Ox managed to score a goal for Arsenal to make it 1-2, and this was a huge boost because the 2nd leg was in Monaco so only having a 1 goal deficit (especially with 2 Monaco away goals) was of paramount importance. Ox was so pleased with his 90+1' goal that a few mins later he made a lackadaisical awful super-long pass around midfield that was intercepted by Monaco, who immediately turned that wayward pass into a counter/break that they once again clinically converted to give Monaco a 1-3 lead in the final 5-15 seconds of ST.
Arsenal would go on to win the 2nd leg 2-0, meaning that Monaco advanced on away goals (more specifically that 3rd goal that Ox handed them) -- #RememberMonaco!
Ah well, I went more long-winded than I wanted to, and i still only scratched the surface on how many examples of Ox being a dumbarse I can give you. Hell, similar to the Monaco story in one of those Buyern CL beatdowns last season he even managed one of those egregious "Game's over / WGAF?" type turnovers to give Thomas Muller his first goal since the Third Reich. Seriously he was on a massive goal drought at the time and go figure it took "AOC"/Ox to get him out of it.
Bar none he's the most (football-)selfish player I've seen in my years watching football, and no matter how bad it gets for Arsenal this season I can always hold my head up high and smile knowing that on 30 August 2017 Arsenal dodged a massive bullet by not signing ox for 5+ years at 180k/week+ --- that would have been a huge step towards Arsenal [formally] pulling a Liverpool..... And look where Ox ended up FFS!
"It's like poetry; it rhymes!" - George Lucas
It's a bit different, isn't it? Ronaldo wanted to leave but he agreed to stay and kept his standards and didn't play like he wanted to leave. Ozil and Sanchez play like they don't care.Err... we kept Ronaldo longer than he would have liked.
Sanchez scored 20 plus league goals and helped win a cup.It's a bit different, isn't it? Ronaldo wanted to leave but he agreed to stay and kept his standards and didn't play like he wanted to leave. Ozil and Sanchez play like they don't care.
Sanchez scored 20 plus league goals and helped win a cup.
He's still performed even though he's wanted out.
He wants to leave. That's fair.Fair enough, he's performed. But he doesn't care. He hasn't since the middle of last season. His attitude has been rotten and you can sense it in the squad and the whole club. It's not the same as Ronaldo.
That's all Arsenal need from him.
They've somehow gotten out of this transfer window with their squad strenghtened. Ox is not a big loss for them but they've managed to keep Ozil and Sanchez too. If Wenger gets his tactics right, they could still be dangerous.
I don't know what to make of it in all honesty but to my mind three things are possible. 1. Wenger is complicit with the board's actions, 2. They are going over his head but because of his love for the club he's decided to make the best of it and 3. Wenger has control of everything.
In a perfect world, third and above spurs. In reality 5th, 4th if we're lucky and don't have any major injuries. I want us to concentrate fully on Europa league but that won't happen and I can't see us getting past Ac Milan or Athletic Bilbao.
Not if they want to challenge for the title or even get back in the CL. Arsenal want him to perform and he'll do that but they need him to want to perform for the club and the team. Success is not built on successful stats on an individual player. His attitude is a problem. How can you expect a team to succeed when one of the biggest players in it clearly doesn't believe in the team. That's the difference between Sanchez and Ronaldo.
This.
On paper Arsenal still have a very good side. Remains to be seen whether Wenger can keep them motivated throughout the season.
They've somehow gotten out of this transfer window with their squad strenghtened. Ox is not a big loss for them but they've managed to keep Ozil and Sanchez too. If Wenger gets his tactics right, they could still be dangerous.
This.
On paper Arsenal still have a very good side. Remains to be seen whether Wenger can keep them motivated throughout the season.