Because you couldn't even kick the shit out of us, despite trying really hard to 'upset' us by being physical and trying to bully us.
Arsenal - Dirty team
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You weren't battered physically, but couldn't impose yourselves to the point where you could play your tardemark football, and as you have only one way of playing this is quite a huge factor.
any 'battering' that happened, came from the lack of knowledge of how to tackle by your lads
Sir Alex Ferguson: Arsenal now as physical as in Martin Keown's day
Interesting.
We?It's the sea of cliches again. Park scores a fantastic header, and it's boys versus men. How do you even work that out? We weren't battered physically today at all? It's lunacy. Stop listening to Keys and Gray and form your own opinion based on reality.
Cliches or not I've not said anything untrue. But the bolded part made me chuckle. If it weren't for a brilliant header?!!! how about IF we scored from a couple of clear cut opportunities and from the pen spot?!! we would've won 4-0! you were second best all over the pitch bar a ten minute spell at the beginning of the second half. Men against boys. Little Nasri, Arshavin et al putting it about like Vieira and Petit.
Anyway, let's cancel the miraculous header...and call it a draw. And blame the pitch for Arsenal's inept performance.
It's not even debatable. Everyone's wrong, though....
Thats brilliant, you've just perfectly mimicked Wengers post match team talk.
Onwards and upwards boys.
The fact their game plan was to kick the shit out of us, and it resulted in us dominating the game, illustrates the boys v. men point quite well.
I can understand Pete and JoPub being upset, but not sure what alastair is so wound up about.
I can understand Pete and JoPub being upset, but not sure what alastair is so wound up about.
Absolute piss take. Those first 10 minutes were worse than anything Stoke have produced.
Im trying to think back to the last time i witnessed a visiting side be as blatant as Arsenal were tonight, i dont even think the likes of Bolton/Stoke/Blackburn even have ever been so blatantly set out to kick us off the pitch as what i saw tonight, and from a team that love to portray themselves as victims of very such tactics i thought it was utterly disgraceful.
Theres no doubt wenger sent them out to 'prove a point' tonight, from the first whistle they were kicking lumps out of us.
Possibly wound up by Evra's recent comments.
Being honest I don't think they were that dirty, most of the fouls were as a result of losing physical one on ones.
Yes.
Quite possibly.
I felt the 'tackles' would be flying before the match...and so it proved.
But If that was their agenda then it is no wonder they lost the plot.
I would not be surprised if SAF had asked Evra make some of these comments to put them off the game.
SAF could never have got away with some of the stuff he said
It wasn't so much the dirtiness of it all more so the blatant nature of it, it was a systematic fouling of every Utd player in possession time after time.
Well, it did throw them off their game. That said, he was probably desperate to try something different to ensure a more favourable outcome...after Arse's run of defeats against the Men. I suppose he'd run out of ideas....I felt the 'tackles' would be flying before the match...and so it proved.
But If that was their agenda then it is no wonder they lost the plot.
I would not be surprised if SAF had asked Evra make some of these comments to put them off the game.
SAF could never have got away with some of the stuff he said
Meh, 14 fouls in a one nil defeat to your rivals. I'd expect no less from a team I supported. And as I said they were usually as a result of being outmuscled, making Paddy's comments like insult to injury. They were the fouls of a beaten team, not a physical imposition on the game.
apparently not.
Sorry mate, your team got wound up by Evra and came to Old Trafford forgetting the best part about your team, the fact that you guys can actually play some decent footy. You ended up concentrating more on giving niggling little fouls and eventually we coped better with the disjointed flow of the game better than your team did.
Arsenal disgust me
horrible team, twat of a manager
horrible team, twat of a manager
Arsenal's only 'bad' challenge of the night was Chamakh's. That was a 'legs flailing' Rooney special.
What the feck are yous on about. No ugly challenges, that's not the point. The point is they did what they regularily accuse others off: team fouling. Just about every single one of their players had a go. It's the most blatent stuff we've been up against for ages.
14 fouls in a tight 1-0. Not exactly headline stuff is it?
Especially as the opta average for fouls per match is 26.3
Especially as the opta average for fouls per match is 26.3
I'm saddened that you think that way. Their manager is one of the best that ever worked in the premiere league.
They are not a horrible side. They are worthy opponents whom we enjoy beating on occasion and whom deserve to be in the top four of the league right now.
You do mate, he's called Chamakh.
Do they count the ones for which advantage was played too? Anyway, most posters got it right, it's the systematic fouling, and you can see it in the match thread when we were posting about rash tackles after rash tackles.
Anti football once again from the purists.
The stats are calculated the way they always are, they commited the average amount of fouls for a game this season.
They lost, would you like them to giftwrap the 3 points?
Stop whining, and as for our match threads indicating anything except too many computers ... get away.
Its true. I like a physical game, it makes better watching. There were rash challenges from both sides in fairnes. In general it was billed as an agressive arsenal side, and the arse lived up to it....but we matched them in our eagerness to win a ball imo.
There was a time in the bar tonight when the arse fans were calling for a card for Rio when I had to comment on the poor quality material that their shits were made of. Shit quality shits rip so easily don;t they?
It wouldn't have been an issue if it hadn't been for Wenger's previous bitching and Arsenal's general championing of themselves as the moral examples of beautiful football.
They're a bunch of clowns.
They're a bunch of clowns.
Exactly Noodle - the only worth this thread has is due to the hypocritical whining of Wenger when Arsenal are fouled. Oh the delicious irony.
I'm hardly crying a river about their fouls, unlike errr... Arsenal. We came away with no scraps and we won the match comfortably as well. But the point remains that they were the most physical of the teams that have come to OT this season, and as recently as a month back, Arse whinged about teams doing the same to them.
Did I touch a nerve? Just an internet forum, didn't mean no disrespect
No one says you were battered physically.
The truth is, United didn't have to batter Arsenal physically.
Cant see what the fuss is with tackles / physicallity. It's a mans game ffsakes
When Utd were kicking us a few years ago its was a 'legitimate' tactic. imo an acceptable tactic that a team has to deal with
We were physical last night and good for us that we were - better than rolling over weeping about it. I enjoyed seeing young Wilshere get stuck in and put himself about - it will do him the world of good to get competitive at this level
Personally I think there's a few misconceptions about the game
Utd did not 'dominate' anything and apart from a flukey goal and one Nani shot in the first 45 produced little else - very even, if a poor, game with little creation with hardly two passes strung together by both sides
Anybody thinking Utd played well is on stuff - you were poor and we were a level poorer and that's pretty easy to see for me.
We were at the races for ten minutes and started to cause problems which opened the game up a little - then that was it - Utd nullified in midfield and got a couple of chances which our keeper dealt well with
There was not a lot of quality about it for me because Ferguson set you up to stifle us with energy and industry in the middle
Anderson Fletcher Carrick Park hardly your most creative talents but perfect for closing down the opposition with help from Rooney Even Berbatov never got on so for me Fergusons plan to nulify then push forward as we passed sideways worked perfectly - copybook Ferguson against Wenger
Shame I can see that but Wenger can't
When Utd were kicking us a few years ago its was a 'legitimate' tactic. imo an acceptable tactic that a team has to deal with
We were physical last night and good for us that we were - better than rolling over weeping about it. I enjoyed seeing young Wilshere get stuck in and put himself about - it will do him the world of good to get competitive at this level
Personally I think there's a few misconceptions about the game
Utd did not 'dominate' anything and apart from a flukey goal and one Nani shot in the first 45 produced little else - very even, if a poor, game with little creation with hardly two passes strung together by both sides
Anybody thinking Utd played well is on stuff - you were poor and we were a level poorer and that's pretty easy to see for me.
We were at the races for ten minutes and started to cause problems which opened the game up a little - then that was it - Utd nullified in midfield and got a couple of chances which our keeper dealt well with
There was not a lot of quality about it for me because Ferguson set you up to stifle us with energy and industry in the middle
Anderson Fletcher Carrick Park hardly your most creative talents but perfect for closing down the opposition with help from Rooney Even Berbatov never got on so for me Fergusons plan to nulify then push forward as we passed sideways worked perfectly - copybook Ferguson against Wenger
Shame I can see that but Wenger can't
hehe feck em.
Tried kicking us about, and still got done.
Would have loved to have seen rooney launch Song out the ground.
Tried kicking us about, and still got done.
Would have loved to have seen rooney launch Song out the ground.
Totally agree with that and I don't think many United fans would have brought it up if it wasn't for the gross hypocrisy from Wenger.
Disagree with almost all of the rest of your post. You seem unable to appreciate the quality of a disciplined, hard-working defensive team performance. Not unlike your manager.
Didn't help with the ref letting Arsenal get away with everything. But yeah, Wenger in hypocritical shocker.
To be fair I'd love to see football stop turning into netball as well.