Arshavin to Arsenal

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Plenty of talk on Arsenal forums saying that the move is edging closer.

'Arsenal seem about to sign Zenit St Petersburg star Andrei Arshavin. The 27 year old's agent Dennis Lachter has declared: "Andrei has always been admired by Arsene Wenger, that already wanted him last summer. This solution is good for everybody but we must still wait some days". The Russian player should sign a 5 year deal while Zenit should earn about 18 million pounds.'

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=29507

Hardly the most reliable source, or the most reliable article, but it does seem to be edging closer.

Personally I think he's an unnecessary signing, he'll most likely add to their team in terms of experience, leadership in that he's Russia's captain, squad depth through his versatility and quality but a winger was hardly the most pressing concern for them.

What say the rest of you's?
 
I'd be happy if Arsenal neglected their need of a defensive midfielder and a centre back and a goalkeeper if they went for Arshavin instead.
 
MehdiMahdavikia said:
Reports around Europe are saying Juve in January.
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Really?

Because this initial report originated in Italy apparently.

'Giocherà in Premier League la stella dello Zenit San Pietroburgo, Andrei Arshavin (27).

L'accordo con l'Arsenal sarebbe stato già perfezionato e subito dopo Capodanno verrà ufficializzato il passaggio ai Gunners. Wenger che voleva a tutti i costi il fuoriclasse russo è stato accontentato. Battuta la concorrenza del Tottenham e della Juve. L'agente Dennis Lachter poche ore fa aveva commentato il possibile trasferimento: "Andrei è un pupillo di Wenger che lo voleva già sin dalla scorsa estate. Questa soluzione piace a tutti ma occorre attendere qualche giorno per la conferma". Per Arshavin si parla di un contratto quinquennale mentre allo Zenit andranno circa 18 milioni di sterline.'

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=134440
 
Arshavin to Arsenal would be curious with regard to Walcott. He needs to be playing pretty regularly at this point and Nasri, Arshavin and Rosicky (if he were ever fit) are all better than him.

Only reason I could see Arshavin going to Arsenal would be if they are selling one of their attacking players like Nasri or Van Persie which would be a weird thing for them to do at this point in the season.
 
Ekeke said:
Arshavin to Arsenal would be curious with regard to Walcott. He needs to be playing pretty regularly at this point and Nasri, Arshavin and Rosicky (if he were ever fit) are all better than him.

Only reason I could see Arshavin going to Arsenal would be if they are selling one of their attacking players like Nasri or Van Persie which would be a weird thing for them to do at this point in the season.
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It'd give them more variation in their system, Wenger's been using 4-5-1 and 4-4-1-1 recently a lot more and he's ideal for either of those positions, and Nasri, Rosicky and Van Persie are quite clearly quite injury prone.

It'd add to their squad depth and their squad possibilities.
 
Brwned said:
I don't rate Arshavin that highly but he's definitely a better player than Arteta.
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Maybe. But I think Arteta is more the kind of player they need; someone who'll help out the midfield rather than just be an auxiliary forward.
 
Lets be honest, getting rid of Diarra after six months was madness. He would've been perfect for them alongside Fabregas.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Lets be honest, getting rid of Diarra after six months was madness. He would've been perfect for them alongside Fabregas.
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He refused to play an FA cup game for them.

He had to go, no questions asked.
 
Brwned said:
It'd give them more variation in their system, Wenger's been using 4-5-1 and 4-4-1-1 recently a lot more and he's ideal for either of those positions, and Nasri, Rosicky and Van Persie are quite clearly quite injury prone.

It'd add to their squad depth and their squad possibilities.
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Yeah but they dont usually do squad depth. I mean if they did bring him in without selling, look at the players he'd be sitting on the bench next to in other positions.

I see Arshavin as a very useful wide player and a good player in the hole, but I'd be more inclined to try and use him out wide than in the hole. Especially at Arsenal where Van Persie and Adebayor are already a formidable partnership. I guess Van Persie, Adebayor and Arshavin would be Arsenal's answer to the "holy trinity".
 
Ekeke said:
Yeah but they dont usually do squad depth. I mean if they did bring him in without selling, look at the players he'd be sitting on the bench next to in other positions.

I see Arshavin as a very useful wide player and a good player in the hole, but I'd be more inclined to try and use him out wide than in the hole. Especially at Arsenal where Van Persie and Adebayor are already a formidable partnership. I guess Van Persie, Adebayor and Arshavin would be Arsenal's answer to the "holy trinity".
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Pretty much.

Nasri's still got a while to go before cementing his place in the team, by all accounts he's been very, very inconsistent. Walcott's the same, flashes hot and cold, which is fair enough considering their age and relative inexperience in the Premier League. They'd all get a nice spread of games.
 
If I were in charge at Arsenal, I'd definitely be looking to bring in players already settled in the Premiership. They are in a position now where they can't take any more risks; they need players where they know what they're getting.

As I already mentioned, I'd try and get Arteta for a reasonable price. Then I'd maybe look at Scott Parker for the middle of the park and Distin for the back line. They're not the best players in the world, but they'd give some reliability and would be able to add strength straight away, without a period of settling in. And that is exactly what they need if they are to avoid missing out on the Champions League.
 
Looking at how Pavelychenko settled in the Premiership I wouldn't rush to sign Arshavin. Personally I think that whilst Arshavin is a good player, I often feel that he isn't as great as the hype surrounding him.

I believe Arsenal are in need of a holding play maker, who is going to help out in front of the defense, as well as offering a range of passing to open up opposing defenses and bring experience to their young side. Marcos Senna would be a decent acquisition.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
If I were in charge at Arsenal, I'd definitely be looking to bring in players already settled in the Premiership. They are in a position now where they can't take any more risks; they need players where they know what they're getting.

As I already mentioned, I'd try and get Arteta for a reasonable price. Then I'd maybe look at Scott Parker for the middle of the park and Distin for the back line. They're not the best players in the world, but they'd give some reliability and would be able to add strength straight away, without a period of settling in. And that is exactly what they need if they are to avoid missing out on the Champions League.
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I think he missed the boat in the summer when both Alonso and Barry were available at the right price, because Parker is not as good.
 
cj_sparky said:
Looking at how Pavelychenko settled in the Premiership I wouldn't rush to sign Arshavin. Personally I think that whilst Arshavin is a good player, I often feel that he isn't as great as the hype surrounding him.

I believe Arsenal are in need of a holding play maker, who is going to help out in front of the defense, as well as offering a range of passing to open up opposing defenses and bring experience to their young side. Marcos Senna would be a decent acquisition.
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Senna would transform the Arsenal side, when Fabregas is back anyway. Fantastic player.
 
surf said:
I think he missed the boat in the summer when both Alonso and Barry were available at the right price, because Parker is not as good.
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Barry was never available at the right price.

If they really want him they could go in for him in January or this summer but he'll still be very overpriced.

Agree about Parker though, he's just not good enough.
 
Brwned said:
Barry was never available at the right price.

If they really want him they could go in for him in January or this summer but he'll still be very overpriced.

Agree about Parker though, he's just not good enough.
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By right price, I meant asking price. Everyone says that Wenger has the money if he wants to buy.
 
surf said:
By right price, I meant asking price. Everyone says that Wenger has the money if he wants to buy.
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I don't think Barry being available for £18m is the right asking price though.

Or am I just completely missing your point?
 
surf said:
By right price, I meant asking price. Everyone says that Wenger has the money if he wants to buy.
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Wenger is like any manager. He wants the best deal for his own club, and he will not pay over the odds.
 
Top clubs frequently have to pay over the odds to get players they really want - Robinho, Berbatov, Shevchenko, Robbie Keane, Hargreaves, and plenty more.
 
Don't really rate him as high as his stock has risen since the summer.

I’d like to offer the same advise to Voyeur as was posted earlier though; to hell with the fact that there are other positional needs on your squad, buy the lad.

I can’t see this happening as Arshavin is 27 already, which is equal to 37 in Arsene Glitter dog years.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
As I already mentioned, I'd try and get Arteta for a reasonable price. Then I'd maybe look at Scott Parker for the middle of the park and Distin for the back line. They're not the best players in the world, but they'd give some reliability and would be able to add strength straight away, without a period of settling in. And that is exactly what they need if they are to avoid missing out on the Champions League.
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Buy middle of the table players and you end up.... in the middle of the table.
 
dave2528 said:
Don't really rate him as high as his stock has risen since the summer.
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It's fallen quite a bit with how average and inconsistent he was in the Russian league after the Euro's, he definitely won't be going for the £20m quoted back then.
 
RedRonaldo said:
They need someone like Fletcher.
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What he said. Fletch would be the PERFECT player for Arsenal to shield their back four. Wenger should have never let Flamini go, I truly believe they'd be serious title challengers this year if he would still be there.
Arshavin is a good player though, if they bring in a decent holding midfielder as well Arsenal could end up having a very good second half of the season. Won't happen though.
 
Anduin said:
What he said. Fletch would be the PERFECT player for Arsenal to shield their back four.
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eh? When did Fletcher transform into the quintessential hard holding midfielder?

As long as they don't get Senna or someone like him, I'm happy to watch them buy superfluous players like Arshavin.
 
Anduin said:
What he said. Fletch would be the PERFECT player for Arsenal to shield their back four. Wenger should have never let Flamini go, I truly believe they'd be serious title challengers this year if he would still be there.
Arshavin is a good player though, if they bring in a decent holding midfielder as well Arsenal could end up having a very good second half of the season. Won't happen though.
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He didn't have a choice really. The lad was out of contract.

They'd still not be title challengers with or without him though. A decent defensive midfielder doesn't make up for a shocking defence.
 
Storm said:
He didn't have a choice really. The lad was out of contract.

They'd still not be title challengers with or without him though. A decent defensive midfielder doesn't make up for a shocking defence.
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It did last season.

A defensive midfielder is just as important as the defence itself.
 
Let's see if I get this correct :

Toure and Gallas hate each other

Adebayor and Bendtner hate each other

Van Persie has always been considered a problem in a group (both in Holland and in Arsenal)

Eboue is boooed by the fans - apart from when they feel so sorry for him that they applaud him for the sake of it.

Senderos was practically boooed out of Emirates

One can say a lot about Wenger - but teambuilding doesn't appear to be his strongest side!
 
lysglimt said:
Looking at Liverpool I would say it's more important!
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That's a very good point. Liverpool are just the perfect example of a defensive midfielder's importance, as are Real Madrid/Chelsea with Makelele and then without him.

They are very important to any team.
 
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