I hear Greta's shoes are only made from 99% recyclable material, the massive phony.
As Rugby refuses to take the knee, is it time the Premier League stopped too?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Indeed. You can't do anything good if your back isn't entirely clean. I mean, why are you posting on an Internet forum saying child workers should be stopped when you're typing on an item maybe produced at a factory by child workers? You need to boycott laptops, smartphones and ipads or it shows that you're a hypocrite!
I would argue the major problem with the knee taking is that any gesture loses most of its impact/meaning if it is mindlessly repeated ad infinitum.
It just seems kind of insincere at this point. Yes, they kneel every week, but how many actually do more than that? Especially the white guys. It's an easy way out of doing some actual work. "I can't be a racist, I kneel before every game for a few seconds!"
They are in a somewhat difficult position to stand up for anything though, seeing how most are sponsored by a shoemaker that employs little kids, or have owners that hold modern day slaves, or big oil barons, etc
It just seems kind of insincere at this point. Yes, they kneel every week, but how many actually do more than that? Especially the white guys. It's an easy way out of doing some actual work. "I can't be a racist, I kneel before every game for a few seconds!"
They are in a somewhat difficult position to stand up for anything though, seeing how most are sponsored by a shoemaker that employs little kids, or have owners that hold modern day slaves, or big oil barons, etc
True
Also true... its actually incredible that anyone can get so angry over something that lasts 2 seconds (insert sex joke here) and that doesn't impact them in anyway.
Send her back to school!
Maybe cos he’s richer, OP seems to have a real issue with people’s net worth. Seb is a relative pauper compared to Lewis.
Surely it can’t be anything else.....
Doesn't annoy me that much. It's 3 seconds long. I just find it pointless, and a tad ridiculous. Symbolism without anything to back it up is meaningless.
What does the kneeling mean to you and your friends? Genuine question.
Pointless. Ridiculous. Meaningless. Seems like it does indeed annoy you alot.
Of course it has achieved something, at the very least it has gotten a conversation going.
You think an attempt to raise awareness of an issue and maintain an important national conversation is worthy of ridicule?
I agree with OP.
Personally I can’t believe that OP is trying to cancel the knee, cancel culture gone wild!
And 'all lives matter' is just a pointless statement in this context, even if you sincerely believe it.
It's the equivalent of going up to a breast cancer foundation and shouting that all cancers matter.
What is it actually about? everytime I watch a game I see black lives matter flash on the screen. I have never seen the EPL jump on so much. I never saw this much with LGBT, Female empowerment, Uighars etc. I just don't understand why they have clinged to "this" cause so tough in isolation when we have KickItOut. My housemate works for the EPL and he thinks they jumped on board not fully knowing what BLM is/was and now are stuck with it as they fully committed. We had "kick it out" as our antiracism and discrimination campaign but then switched because BLM was all over the news. I doubt any of them even know what changes if any are happening in America and lets not pretend, this was sparked by and started in America
Noted. Cheers mate.
I remember an incident many years ago. It was in one of the Glazer threads, and may or may not have involved something about a hotel.
Taking a knee is a symbolic gesture that should be continued for as long as people want to, without pressure from anyone else.
Symbolic gestures will only get us so far though. Racism is entrenched in society, ask people of colour their experiences. A lot of Pakistani men are taxi drivers - ask them how much racism they experience during their working week after the great British public have had a few.
Symbolic gestures will only get us so far though. Racism is entrenched in society, ask people of colour their experiences. A lot of Pakistani men are taxi drivers - ask them how much racism they experience during their working week after the great British public have had a few.
Ah the old what about these other causes approach. A classic, let's see if it pays off.
Is it even BLM anymore? I thought it was now the premier leagues own ‘no room for racism’ now, or something similar. I don’t remember seeing “black lives matter” flash up for a long time, but I’ll look out for it.
I might be wrong though.
Not because they were white though. They were oppressed for other reasons and the colour of their skin was incidental. Black people have been and continue to be marginalised for nothing other than the fact they have dark skin.
They distanced themselves from the group after all the shite on social media but I noticed recently they still use the phrase, just not associating with the organisation.
Aaah I see! Cheers.
At the very least these BLM supporting gestures reveal the people who get triggered out of their mind by it for what they really are.
To me and my friends personally? Not much but I fully support it nonetheless. It has sparked conversations with me and my friends and the past summer we shared different books we were reading about the subject. It's helped me learn truly how privileged I have been in life and I've learned a lot from listening to others. I also know more about other cultures and what people of different races experience now and I think that's a fantastic thing.
Doing that has also given me more confidence to confront others when I see it occur in my life, as I have a lot of knowledge to fall back on and justify the need to say/do something.
only just hearing about this. that's shocking that they didn't take the knee, assholes.
Literally saw it within the last week!
Its true. I wonder what makes the EPL and companies feel sooo strongly about this particular cause. Personally I think like Basketball and American Football, we have high black representation and many are the best players so they have to be seen as doing something or being supportive. I think its commercial and not "to fight racism". how much money and effort is the EPL putting into the black community to help tackle social and economic issues? The NFL? The NBA? if they are, then fine. But it seems gimmicky to me. Who is actually putting their money where their mouths are at ground level?
If you are bothered about players taking the knee, turn the station. No one is forcing you too watch.
I’m not convinced you have, on the TV coverage anyway, but you might be right.
I do know that they dropped the BLM badge on the shirts and changed it to “no room for racism”
This article here seems to say they dropped BLM altogether and stopped mentioning it since the start of this season.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ves-matter-badge-from-shirts-for-own-campaign
Anyway, my sidetracking is slightly irrelevant
This. Unfortunately its really hard to do.
maybe it was my illegal stream!I’m not convinced you have, on the TV coverage anyway, but you might be right.
I do know that they dropped the BLM badge on the shirts and changed it to “no room for racism”
This article here seems to say they dropped BLM altogether and stopped mentioning it since the start of this season.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ves-matter-badge-from-shirts-for-own-campaign
Anyway, my sidetracking is slightly irrelevant
EDIT: I do not use illegal streams. thanks
Is this thread some kind of social experiment? Absolutely insane.
thank god you saved yourself with the edit.It was time more than half a year ago.
The people who complain about it are always louder about that than any actual racism. Funny huh.
"Loud in our laughter, silent in our sufferings"
I always see people don't mind protests or similar as long as it doesn't inconvenience them or make them feel awkward
This thread is a disaster from reading Zex posts unless the aim is to have as many people quoting you as possible
This thread is a disaster from reading Zex posts unless the aim is to have as many people quoting you as possible
It's not true, it's once again deflecting the attention from the issue itself. "That you're against sexual harassment at work is good and all, but what about the kids in Africa? Why aren't you caring about them?"
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