Agreed with this, his quick and sharp passing did tend to remind me of Keano as times, and he was quite nippy on the ball for someone who was famed for his defensive prowess.
Auction Draft QF : EAP vs. Don Alfredo/Enigma
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Side-stepping the wider debate but @Šjor Bepo will testify that I've been on a massive, borderline bizarre, Dunga kick lately. I saw plenty of him when he was still playing so I don't quite know why I'd leave it this long to start appreciating him more but that's draft life I guess
That's just a superb performance on the biggest stage, with much more progressive and creative passing than he's typically given credit for. In fact, even though I rate Mauro Silva highly, I wonder if Dunga wouldn't be a better fit at the base of that Xaviesta midfield. He'd have the discipline to sit in the holding role all match long, and he's that notch above in terms of quality on the ball while also being an outstanding ball winner.
I don't know, it seems like selective sampling. And that Burnley side was okay but not good for all time. No really great players. Unlike for instance John McGovern's performance against Hamburg in the 1980 European Final.
Or Mascherano against Holland in 2014 that includes this world class tackle against Robben
Cerezo against Internacional in 1980 when Mineiro won the Brasileiro
Dunga in the World Cup Final
Gilberto Silva during an outstanding season
Kante for Caen against a better Marseille side
I just don't really see the evidence to rate Mackay above all these other great players. (I realize it was Pillow not you that made that claim so I don't mean to attribute that view to you just the video response )
@Pat_Mustard ah you ninja'd me on Dunga as I was writing haha
I had a pretty high regard for Dunga (and Deschamps) before I started playing Caf drafts, I was quite surprised and dismayed they both had pretty poor reputations on here, I hope they can get picked more in future drafts as they should be rated much higher.Side-stepping the wider debate but @Šjor Bepo will testify that I've been on a massive, borderline bizarre, Dunga kick lately. I saw plenty of him when he was still playing so I don't quite know why I'd leave it this long to start appreciating him more but that's draft life I guess
That's just a superb performance on the biggest stage, with much more progressive and creative passing than he's typically given credit for. In fact, even though I rate Mauro Silva highly, I wonder if Dunga wouldn't be a better fit at the base of that Xaviesta midfield. He'd have the discipline to sit in the holding role all match long, and he's that notch above in terms of quality on the ball while also being an outstanding ball winner.
was brilliant in the game against Argentina i watched the other day, in fact the whole Brazilian side was amazing bar some guy Silos or Silas, something like that....Side-stepping the wider debate but @Šjor Bepo will testify that I've been on a massive, borderline bizarre, Dunga kick lately. I saw plenty of him when he was still playing so I don't quite know why I'd leave it this long to start appreciating him more but that's draft life I guess
That's just a superb performance on the biggest stage, with much more progressive and creative passing than he's typically given credit for. In fact, even though I rate Mauro Silva highly, I wonder if Dunga wouldn't be a better fit at the base of that Xaviesta midfield. He'd have the discipline to sit in the holding role all match long, and he's that notch above in terms of quality on the ball while also being an outstanding ball winner.
What's the fecking odds on a Dunga all-touches video getting double-posted in a draft match he wasn't even featured in?Dunga is just a 'team of the draft' type of player waiting to happen some time in the future imo. Funny enough I was going to badmouth Deschamps in that post by saying that Dunga's passing was far more creative but it seemed like poor form to bring him into it just to praise Dunga in comparison
Aye, if it's the one you made the Romario video from I watched some of that match recently (either highlights or some shamefully abandoned all-touches video) and he was class
.Yes. Great threadSuperb thread this. Perfect blend of handbags, wild claims and very interesting discussion
CheersI predict one of three replies from @Ecstatic (one of my favorite posters)
A) A tonne of formation graphics to illustrate his points from random matches across history at least one of which will be a Pele match
B) An explanation filled with abstract analogies to 1980s movies, the price of Tulips in Taiwan, some unknown French player with nice hair and the cultural practices of Dutch naming conventions
C) A brief cliffhanger summary along with enigmatic hints to explain later when voting is closed
I'm hoping on B for this one
Challenge accepted: I will try B.
CRUYJFF IS LIKE REYNALD PEDROS: NO MOON WITHOUT A SUN
They are ever-moving and you need to ensure there is always somebody in the penalty area to finish chances
They are ever-moving and you need to ensure there is always somebody in the penalty area to finish chances
Translation:Figo is worlds apart from Garrincha stylistically, but it's not a surprise coming out of you, considering you aren't really familiar with other player styles and claim nonsense like it's a fact.
Scarface 1983
After that EAP replied with gifs
QUOTE="Edgar Allan Pillow, post: 23734050, member: 57041"]Don't have access to YT at work, so have to do with GIFs:
Charlton making runs from the deep:
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QUOTE="Edgar Allan Pillow, post: 23734050, member: 57041"]Don't have access to YT at work, so have to do with GIFs:
Charlton making runs from the deep:
A lot of things to say about that game but later!
@Ecstatic superb!
I disagree. It's not as if they costed the price of Taiwanese tulips.
I mean 70 millions for each of them is a high price and a player like Greaves has been valued at 30 millions
Team Enigma is a bit like the Maastricht Treaty.
At first sight, all the members a common DNA and destiny and they should be able to produce something harmonious around these Barcelona values but it's hard not look at the obvious conflict of interests in the North-West: Iniesta/Rivaldo/Cruyjff are rival as concerns as controlling the game there.
At first sight, all the members a common DNA and destiny and they should be able to produce something harmonious around these Barcelona values but it's hard not look at the obvious conflict of interests in the North-West: Iniesta/Rivaldo/Cruyjff are rival as concerns as controlling the game there.
Well, IMO they should be rated around 100m. One of the best midfielders ever. For Greaves I certainly agree and he's well underrated at that price.I disagree. It's not as if they costed the price of Taiwanese tulips.
I mean 70 millions for each of them is a high price and a player like Greaves has been valued at 30 millions
They seem good buys at 70 mn a pop each because they are paired together into a Xaviesta system as always. Other wise, they would have been considered par. Till someone can pull off a great draft performance without pairing them...100 mn is a distant dream for either of them.
70m or 100m it's the same
I mean that in the real life, scorers are always more expensive.
I think Signori is more rated than Greaves here!
I doubt it. Even though Greaves is not picked as often as he should be, hardly anyone questions him when the game is on.
Greaves is one of those who seem to have no impact in matches. Nothing positive or negative.